" @Dane said:" @Buckshot: I've had a brief look at their powers. The wiki entries I find for the limitations or extent of their powers are extremely vague. Ones I can say off the bat, Tao's power is no if it works to the extent that he could undermine an entire sentient force. In one way I would be willing to allow it because from what I can tell, it would only work on humans. I mean if Tao tries to undermine the confidence of a Xenomorph he's going to die painfully. Grifter's skills from what I've seen are perfectly acceptable. The problem I have is people like Holden Carver and Dane, what are the extent of their abilities? what can they affect and what can they not affect etc. Also, what is the durability of a "Basic Force Field", what is it being generated by, etc. Oh and Zealot and Majestic's skills are inapplicable. They have built them up over immortal life spans which means a normal human could never have that much battle experience."Keep looking stuff up so you know for yourself for sure, but I'll address what you said. Tao's power only works on humans as demonstrated so far, but I was hoping to use Battalion or Dane to broadcast it to every enemy capable of thought. I haven't read Sleeper in a while so I don't know the exact limits of Holden's abilities. Dane is below Spider-Man in all physical stats except durability since he's a little bit bullet proof (not to the level of Luke Cage though). What do you mean what can they affect? Holden's pain/damage transference works on things capable of feeling pain, and Dane's psychic abilities work on all things. I wanted a force field just because most of the guys aren't superhumanly durable and don't have healing of any sort. It doesn't have to be super awesome, but as good as possible (so they're not randomly getting killed by carpet bombs or other enemies while they're fighting some h2h). A lot of comic characters have amassed more skills than any human possibly could. I'm not sure I get why their skills aren't allowed. Could that be explained? "
I take it Battalion/Dane's telepathy is not sufficient to cripple enemies in the ilk of Professor Xavier or something right?
Force-Fields are tricky because it's hard to quantify what will and won't go through it. It's not like a bullet-proof vest where I can just say it'll stop low caliber bullets but won't stop high caliber bullets. I mean what happens if a Xenomorph from aliens jumps on one of your guys with a force field? do they bounce off and hit a wall or something? It's a lot easier to use armor, even if it's vibranium because we sort of all know whats going to happen. I'm sorry if my lack of Wildstorm gets in the way of your dream team, cause thats sort of what threads like this are about, building your dream team. I'll keep reading as much as I can but you may have to trade in some powers/abilities for some more common ones.
The problem with the skills of an immortal is the thousands of years of battle experience you'll have pumped into your brain instantly. I would prefer knowledge that can be accumulated within a human lifetime. It's tricky because someone like Batman has a highly unrealistic level of knowledge in virtually everything. But someone like Zealot, imo is far above Batman in fighting skills and battle experience. That just isn't a realistic skill-set for a human. Keep in mind the characters will be regular vine members, not hyper advanced immortal aliens. Thousands of years of knowledge being pumped into their brains in a few seconds could radically alter their perception or even drive them insane. It's supposed to be Matrix style and in the movies learning even single martial arts at a time was said to be incredibly mentally strenuous. It might take someone the whole month to learn Batman's knowledge and fighting skills so I just think Zealot/Majestic is pushing it beyond the boundaries a bit.
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