Daken vs. Deathstroke
"well this is a hard one actually .... ill take daken no prep and deathstroke with prep "
O yea I forgot to tell everyone that there is no prep here.
" @Doombert: I mean despite Slade's superhuman attributes, I don't think he's completely invulnerable to Daken's pheremones. So I think Daken would be able to do his vanishing act and all that jazz and eventually dismember Deathstroke into a limbless torso. Then again, I can see Slade catching Daken right before he strikes. I have no idea. Does Slade have superhuman reflexes? "
Yup. He has tagged much faster than Daken. I really think Daken has 1 shot at this. Literally 1 shot before Slade takes him out. If he pussyfoots around like he did with Spiderman he would be a sack of meat. I still give it to Slade 7/10 in a random encounter. 10/10 if any prep is involved.
" @spidey 15: I believe Deathstroke has resisted mind altering chemicals before, but I am not sure. "I feel like this debate has been done before, but I'm too lazy to go searching for it.
" @k4tzm4n said:Why is that?" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
" @spidey 15: Wait, I said I was not sure. I could be wrong about that. I believe I have seen an instance where Slade has resisted various chemicals, but unless I am not completely sure about the circumstances, the validity of the instance, or how it compares with this. So you may want to hold off on that. "Ok, then i'll wait for someone sure to show me a defense from pheremones.
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" @k4tzm4n said:" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
LOL.
"@k4tzm4n: You could swipe this thread if you want, since I lost all respect for Daken after reading Dark Wolverine#79. "
Was #79 when he lost in the warehouse? I don't plan on debating here, I was just shocked to see that comment from Morph, but then saw it was from a year ago.
" @Morpheus_ said:Because most people blow everything he does out of proportion." @k4tzm4n said:Why is that? "" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
" @Silver2467 said:Do I fall under the category of "most people"? Because if I am wrong about Deathstroke in some way, I am willing to discuss that." @Morpheus_ said:Because most people blow everything he does out of proportion. "" @k4tzm4n said:Why is that? "" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
" @Morpheus_ said:No, not at all." @Silver2467 said:Do I fall under the category of "most people"? Because if I am wrong about Deathstroke in some way, I am willing to discuss that. "" @Morpheus_ said:Because most people blow everything he does out of proportion. "" @k4tzm4n said:Why is that? "" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
" @Silver2467 said:Alright." @Morpheus_ said:No, not at all. "" @Silver2467 said:Do I fall under the category of "most people"? Because if I am wrong about Deathstroke in some way, I am willing to discuss that. "" @Morpheus_ said:Because most people blow everything he does out of proportion. "" @k4tzm4n said:Why is that? "" @Morpheus_ said:I knew it wouldn't escape your eye."Prep or no prep...Daken has done little for me to put him on Slade's level... "I bet you regret saying that now, eh? LOL "
It is my policy not to debate in Deathstroke threads anymore. "
I'm on the fence. Daken isn't as strong. Nor as fast. But he does something his pops seldom does anymore ... he evidences high level skill in battle.
Gah... I'm leaning toward Slade. It might seem contradictory as I give Wovlerine the advantage against DS. But I think Wolverine is a much tougher fight for DS than his son based on build.
I think DS is skilled enough to leave with Daken's head. Logan's metal saves him from the same fate IMO.
Bump.
It's interesting to see how far Daken has come as a character in the last few years as a figure who actually stands a chance at beating Slade. Perhaps not taking a majority of the battles, but depending on the level of prep-work by either party (or lack of, as could be the case), Daken could hold certain advantages over Slade.
Death stroke is smarter has a faster healing factor better weapons and Daken has not done anything big other than beat skaar which is a load of crap 1st skaar is just like his father Healing factor getting stronger when he is angrier and to boot it he has the old power which he has been mastering other than that daken couldn't do anything with prep time any way he dosent even have the intelligence to even search on how his enemy is he is like wolverine not intelligent at all so what the point of putting prep time when the only person than can use it in that situation is dead-pool and im not saying death pool is smart im saying he is a great tactician and he is smarter than daken im not saying he is the smartest in marvel or anything dont get me wrong
@blackpanther1 said:
Death stroke is smarter has a faster healing factor better weapons and Daken has not done anything big other than beat skaar which is a load of crap 1st skaar is just like his father Healing factor getting stronger when he is angrier and to boot it he has the old power which he has been mastering other than that daken couldn't do anything with prep time any way he dosent even have the intelligence to even search on how his enemy is he is like wolverine not intelligent at all so what the point of putting prep time when the only person than can use it in that situation is dead-pool and im not saying death pool is smart im saying he is a great tactician and he is smarter than daken im not saying he is the smartest in marvel or anything dont get me wrong
Considering he plotted to gain the trust of the F4 (accomplished) plotted to take over all crime in Madrippor (accomplished), plotted every step in his death, leading heroes like Reed Richards, Thor, Tony Stark, etc. on wild goose chases... how is he unintelligent? In what universe is the Daken you're referencing from?
@Morpheus_ said:
Daken does stand a chance, but contrary to popular belief, he rarely, if ever uses his pheromones for combat purposes. Out of all his major showings, he has done so only in two, and only one was against a street level character (Spider-Man). As such, Daken is reasonably more skilled, with a superior healing factor, but inferior strength, reflexes and equipment. Slade should win more often than not.
How would you rate their speed against each other? Reflexes aside that is.
@Morpheus_ said:
Daken does stand a chance, but contrary to popular belief, he rarely, if ever uses his pheromones for combat purposes. Out of all his major showings, he has done so only in two, and only one was against a street level character (Spider-Man). As such, Daken is reasonably more skilled, with a superior healing factor, but inferior strength, reflexes and equipment. Slade should win more often than not.
Didn't he also beat Skarr with Pheromones as well? Pretty sure the Scans I seen suggested as much.
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