I think Daken would take it due to the fact he wouldnt hold back from killing his father or anyone
I really like X-23, but Wolverine takes the cake here. You say Darken can disguise his sent, right; but how's that going to work when Wolverine is right there on top of him. Draken wouldn't even phase Wolverine's healing factor, let alone his break his adimantium.
Ok Dakne was trained by Cyber. So what. Wolverine has beaten Cyber plenty of times so that is moot. The only things that would cause Wolverine to loose to either of these people is his hesitation with fighting them and that he underestimates people sometimes. That is it. Plus I am sure that he would take this fight very seriously. Wolverine is easily one of the best fighters in his universe.
"Yes that is true on both accounts Trauma. So I do acknowledge those points. However, I don't think they disproved what I had said."
"Ok. I would be willing to give Dakne would maybe take it that way. But I have to admit, X-23 is kind of underrated. She would be able to pull her own for at least a bit."alright see we have understanding lol but oh yea x-23 can hold her ground real good. Im not ruleing her out i just think though she may not be as powerful as the others
Wolverine has experience and toughness on his side. Regardless of their superior agility and modern augmentation; centuries of combat experience, his indomitable will, and the fact that Wolverine has survived more punishment than those two could ever inflict guarantees his victory.
"Wolverine has experience and toughness on his side. Regardless of their superior agility and modern augmentation; centuries of combat experience, his indomitable will, and the fact that Wolverine has survived more punishment than those two could ever inflict guarantees his victory. "No it does not. The others have a good chance at winning this. X-23 has taken him out by herself in just a few panels.
"X-23 loses, Toss up between Daken and Wolverine."Why?
"SUNMAN said:To be honest I just like the other 2 more. I would say in all seriousness she has a shot, but I think Wolverine is equally capable of taking down X-23 he knows what she can do, and I think he has the experience to turn the tables on her. Truthfully, it depends what book your reading Wolverine in. Logan in New Avengers is decent, but is nowhere near as impressive as he is in Origins. While in the X-books he has good and bad showings."X-23 loses, Toss up between Daken and Wolverine."Why? I think X-23 is more than capable of beating Wolverine if she has to. She single-handedly took down Lady Deathstrike without much trouble at all, and she heals faster than both of them. I can see her taking it."
I think X23 would go down first leaving Daken vs Wolverine, for the following reasons.
Daken would take down X23 in short order, due to superior experience and ability. Daken would mask his sent attack from behind and go for the kill stroke. Why? Because he wouldn't let anyone else kill Logan.
Now before i touch on the wolvie/daken fight let me point out an issue about the speed of wolverines healing factor compared to daken or x23. Logans healing factor is less efficient than either of theirs due to a single difference. The adamantium. while making him nearly indestructable it has been shown to slow his healing and actually causes him constant pain. These facts can bee seen at various points over the years, the healing factor showed a marked increase in efficientcy when his adamantium removed, and logan himself has said that his bones constantly hurt in his hunt for mystique.
Now on to the meat of the issue Wolverine vs Daken. in the times Daken has beaten his father logan was always either, restrained physically, or purposefully holding back. But as the story with daken progressed Logan began doubting his son could be saved more and more. I think that when daken kills X23 Logan would decided enough is enough and do what only he can. Now to single out the main difference between the two. The adamantium. while it slows him down and decreases his healing ability it virtually ensures his win. It weighs his blows makeing him able to hit harder that daken and his claws could rip through dakens flesh and bone without any difficulty at all. Could daken possibly knock him out? yes, but it would be near impossible to for him to actually kill his father since he would be unable to decaptiate Logan. This compensates for Dakens unique abilities quite well, now that wolverine is experience in deaing with his son.
There is really only one way Daken could win, and we all know what that is dont we. The Muramasa Blade. on the contrary Logan is FULLY capable of killing daken without it, just as he could have Killed Sabertooth without it if he truly wanted to. The blade is the wild card in this fight and the only thing that could change the outcome. If Wolverine doesnt use the blade as a crutch and just goes claw to claw he wins bottom line. If he is foolish enough to bring the sword.....then Daken wins i hate to say. While daken coulndt kill his father in a straight up fight, i believe he is quite capable of disarming him, and the its game over
It was proven in comics she is a better fighter than him, and she has also beaten him atleast once...but i believe they had two encounters, and that she beat him twice. Your opinion doesn't matter if it was proven that she can beat him.
" @Tesseract said:
" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "
I think wolverine wins in a rematch though "
Daken doesn't have his muramasa blade anymore. And Wolverine said that Daken is better then him in Wolverin:Origins I believe. Also X23 already beat Wolverine a couple of times.
" Daken, because has part of the muramasa in his claws he is able to kill them..."
But, using only fighting skills, then Wolverine wins, and X-23 and Daken in tie, because they have fought before and it was a tie.
" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "wolverine wasnt trying if you are refering to the fight in the x-23 comic "
CIS off Wolverine should win handily. He fights with kid gloves on with Daken because he is his son, and X-23 because she is his - for all intensive purposes - his daughter, if he cut lose he would tear them up. Right now he is like a dad who lets his four year old son / daughter beat him at basketball, just to be nice and encouraging... but if he wanted to he could take them down without too much trouble.
And X-23 has never beaten Wolverine. Laura downed him with a cheap shot in Uncanny X-Men, but it was later revealed during New X-Men Academy that it was just a ploy. Wolverine knew about X-23 and the two had an previous understanding, for her existence to stay hidden from the X-Men, so he took a dive... and then later changed his mind and brought her in. Convoluted I know. In her Target X series Wolverine wasn't fighting seriously and took a dive again to try and help her. If Logan fought all out, he would wreck her. He has told her to her face that he is better than her in every way, and I tend to believe him.
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