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#1 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio
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I think Daken would take it due to the fact he wouldnt hold back from killing his father or anyone
#2 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine would win...due to the fact that he's just better in every way...

#3 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

not true daken can disguise his scent to where wolverine has no idea where he is. Also, daken is just a good of a fighter as wolverine from cybers training

#4 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

anyone else

#5 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

I really like X-23, but Wolverine takes the cake here. You say Darken can disguise his sent, right; but how's that going to work when Wolverine is right there on top of him. Draken wouldn't even phase Wolverine's healing factor, let alone his break his adimantium.

#6 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

uhhh if wolverine is so great why is it that all the pictures that i see wolverine and X-23 together wolverine is getting beat up or in the ground????? lol :p

#7 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine's always had a weakness for... beautiful figures.

#8 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

yea dakne could just escape his sights for a moment and wolverine not know where he is and then daken just comes around and knocks out wolverine

#9 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine has other tracking skills than just his nose you know Trauma. It seems like you had already made up your mind about this thread so why post it if you are just shooting down other peoples opinions?

#10 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

ohh nut im not at all im only stateing an arguement thats what you do in battle threads

#11 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok Dakne was trained by Cyber. So what. Wolverine has beaten Cyber plenty of times so that is moot.  The only things that would cause Wolverine to loose to either of these people is his hesitation with fighting them and that he underestimates people sometimes. That is it. Plus I am sure that he would take this fight very seriously. Wolverine is easily one of the best fighters in his universe.

#12 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio

yes but it has been shown the daken has held wolverine to a stand still in fighting also daken would have no promblem killing his father and wouldnt hesitate

#13 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes that is true on both accounts Trauma. So I do acknowledge those points. However, I don't think they disproved what I had said.

#14 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Yes that is true on both accounts Trauma. So I do acknowledge those points. However, I don't think they disproved what I had said."

ok true but what about the fact that daken has no promblem killing his father while wolverine will not even try and kill his son. Maybe while wolverine is busy with x-23 daken takes out wolverine from the behind
#15 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok. I would be willing to give Dakne would maybe take it that way. But I have to admit, X-23 is kind of underrated. She would be able to pull her own for at least a bit.

#16 Posted by Trauma (5884 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Ok. I would be willing to give Dakne would maybe take it that way. But I have to admit, X-23 is kind of underrated. She would be able to pull her own for at least a bit."
alright see we have understanding lol but oh yea x-23 can hold her ground real good. Im not ruleing her out i just think though she may not be as powerful as the others
#17 Posted by njhs27 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine has experience and toughness on his side. Regardless of their superior agility and modern augmentation; centuries of combat experience, his indomitable will, and the fact that Wolverine has survived more punishment than those two could ever inflict guarantees his victory.

#18 Posted by SUNMAN (6882 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23 loses, Toss up between Daken and Wolverine.

#19 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
njhs27 said:
"Wolverine has experience and toughness on his side. Regardless of their superior agility and modern augmentation; centuries of combat experience, his indomitable will, and the fact that Wolverine has survived more punishment than those two could ever inflict guarantees his victory. "
No it does not. The others have a good chance at winning this. X-23 has taken him out by herself in just a few panels. 
#20 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

How do you write X-23 off so easily? Do you know anything about her?

#21 Posted by Espada (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
SUNMAN said:
"X-23 loses, Toss up between Daken and Wolverine."
Why?
 
I think X-23 is more than capable of beating Wolverine if she has to. She single-handedly took down Lady Deathstrike without much trouble at all, and she heals faster than both of them. I can see her taking it.
#22 Posted by SUNMAN (6882 posts) - - Show Bio
Espada said:
"SUNMAN said:
"X-23 loses, Toss up between Daken and Wolverine."
Why? I think X-23 is more than capable of beating Wolverine if she has to. She single-handedly took down Lady Deathstrike without much trouble at all, and she heals faster than both of them. I can see her taking it."
To be honest I just like the other 2 more. I would say in all seriousness she has a shot, but I think Wolverine is equally capable of taking down X-23 he knows what she can do, and I think he has the experience to turn the tables on her. Truthfully, it depends what book your reading Wolverine in. Logan in New Avengers is decent, but is nowhere near as impressive as he is in Origins. While in the X-books he has good and bad showings.  

I like Daken cause he destroyed Deadpool, and he has owned Logan too, but to be fair Logan was not trying his hardest.

In the end I think this fight will come down to strength and endurance, where I see Daken and Logan above X-23.

She might be better in overall skill and fighting ability, but I think this fight will take more than that. She also loses to Logan in experience.

Also are you sure she can heal faster than both of them? I was not aware of that.
#23 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not know about her healing better than Daken, but she does better than Wolverine. She even told him he heals slow during Messiah Complex. 

#24 Posted by SUNMAN (6882 posts) - - Show Bio

well Wolvie is old he is over 150 after all

#25 Posted by weaponx (1562 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23 or Wolverine take it. I mean, yeah, they all have the chance to win, but I think it would generally come down to these two. All I really know for sure, is that I would loose in this fight haha.

#26 Posted by claws (5061 posts) - - Show Bio

probaly wolverine or x-23 daken has the weakest healing factor in this battle and wolverine has the most experience

#27 Posted by Razealim (30 posts) - - Show Bio

I think X23 would go down first leaving Daken vs Wolverine, for the following reasons.

Daken would take down X23 in short order, due to superior experience and ability. Daken would mask his sent attack from behind and go for the kill stroke. Why? Because he wouldn't let anyone else kill Logan.

Now before i touch on the wolvie/daken fight let me point out an issue about the speed of wolverines healing factor compared to daken or x23. Logans healing factor is less efficient than either of theirs due to a single difference. The adamantium. while making him nearly indestructable it has been shown to slow his healing and actually causes him constant pain. These facts can bee seen at various points over the years, the healing factor showed a marked increase in efficientcy when his adamantium removed, and logan himself has said that his bones constantly hurt in his hunt for mystique.


Now on to the meat of the issue Wolverine vs Daken. in the times Daken has beaten his father logan was always either, restrained physically, or purposefully holding back. But as the story with daken progressed Logan began doubting his son could be saved more and more. I think that when daken kills X23 Logan would decided enough is enough and do what only he can. Now to single out the main difference between the two. The adamantium. while it slows him down and decreases his healing ability it virtually ensures his win. It weighs his blows makeing him able to hit harder that daken and his claws could rip through dakens flesh and bone without any difficulty at all. Could daken possibly knock him out? yes, but it would be near impossible to for him to actually kill his father since he would be unable to decaptiate Logan. This compensates for Dakens unique abilities quite well, now that wolverine is experience in deaing with his son.

There is really only one way Daken could win, and we all know what that is dont we. The Muramasa Blade. on the contrary Logan is FULLY capable of killing daken without it, just as he could have Killed Sabertooth without it if he truly wanted to. The blade is the wild card in this fight and the only thing that could change the outcome. If Wolverine doesnt use the blade as a crutch and just goes claw to claw he wins bottom line. If he is foolish enough to bring the sword.....then Daken wins i hate to say. While daken coulndt kill his father in a straight up fight, i believe he is quite capable of disarming him, and the its game over

#28 Posted by BIackFlash (1909 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine takes it

#29 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23

#30 Posted by CM9 (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Does he still hate his dad?

#31 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont see X-23 beating Wolverine
#32 Posted by Tesseract (871 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics.
#33 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - - Show Bio

I see Daken win this

#34 Edited by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tesseract said:

" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "


I think wolverine wins in a rematch though
#35 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio

X-23 loses, its down to Wolverine and Daken, after a while i see Wolverine being the victor of this fight

#36 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

Daken, because has part of the muramasa in his claws he is able to kill them...
But, using only fighting skills, then Wolverine wins, and X-23 and Daken in tie, because they have fought before and it was a tie.

#37 Edited by Tesseract (871 posts) - - Show Bio
@jasraj said:

" @Tesseract said:

" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "


I think wolverine wins in a rematch though "
It was proven in comics she is a better fighter than him, and she has also beaten him atleast once...but i believe they had two encounters, and that she beat him twice. Your opinion doesn't matter if it was proven that she can beat him.   
 
@Deadcool
said:

" Daken, because has part of the muramasa in his claws he is able to kill them...
But, using only fighting skills, then Wolverine wins, and X-23 and Daken in tie, because they have fought before and it was a tie.

"
Daken doesn't have his muramasa blade anymore. And Wolverine said that Daken is better then him in Wolverin:Origins I believe. Also X23 already beat Wolverine a couple of times.
#38 Posted by FLCL1 (9581 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tesseract said:
" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "

wolverine wasnt trying if you are refering to the fight in the x-23 comic
#39 Posted by HellionVulcan (3455 posts) - - Show Bio

daken would win his pheromone powers can be used very great in this fight & help him win & X-23 didn't take wolverine out he allowed it just like he allowed at one time with daken for them to take out their anger on him .

#40 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio
@FLCL1 said:
"@Tesseract said:
" @jasraj: She already beat him atleast once in comics. "
wolverine wasnt trying if you are refering to the fight in the x-23 comic "

Oh he wasnt trying, its down to Daken or Wolverine, i might say Daken now, but i DONT see X-23 beating Daken, mmmh, I will go with Daken, 
 
1. Daken 
2. Wolverine 
3. X-23 
 
What do you think:?
#41 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Daken is likely to win. However, if Wolverine and X-23 act in character, they will know Daken as the most dangerous and will both likely focus on him first. If that happens, Daken could also be the first out.

#42 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tesseract: But that is beacuse she is faster than wolverine, right?
I mean, she only has adamantium in the claws... Wolverine has more training...
#43 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - - Show Bio
@G'bandit:
PIS
#44 Posted by thegentlemanrogue (722 posts) - - Show Bio

CIS off Wolverine should win handily. He fights with kid gloves on with Daken because he is his son, and X-23 because she is his - for all intensive purposes - his daughter, if he cut lose he would tear them up. Right now he is like a dad who lets his four year old son / daughter beat him at basketball, just to be nice and encouraging... but if he wanted to he could take them down without too much trouble.
 
And X-23 has never beaten Wolverine. Laura downed him with a cheap shot in Uncanny X-Men, but it was later revealed during New X-Men Academy that it was just a ploy. Wolverine knew about X-23 and the two had an previous understanding, for her existence to stay hidden from the X-Men, so he took a dive... and then later changed his mind and brought her in.  Convoluted I know. In her Target X series Wolverine wasn't fighting seriously and took a dive again to try and help her. If Logan fought all out, he would wreck her. He has told her to her face that he is better than her in every way, and I tend to believe him.

#45 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio

@thegentlemanrogue:
I agree, Wolverine wasnt fighting seriously, and i also agree that Logan would wreck X-23, but i think Daken wins

#46 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tesseract:
Wolverine wasnt trying, if he was he would wreck her
#47 Posted by Cochise (706 posts) - - Show Bio

The Muramasa claw gives Daken a huge edge here.

#48 Posted by Tesseract (871 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cochise: He doesn't have the Muramasa anymore.
#49 Posted by Tesseract (871 posts) - - Show Bio
@thegentlemanrogue: Why do you say he could take Daken down without much trouble. What are you basing that on?
#50 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Daken 
2. Wolverine 
3. X-23