Daekseid (Pre-Crisis) vs Phoenix Wolverine (1/2 Power of Phoenix Wolverine)

Darkseid stomps.

@leonkarlen123: How?

@isgavin_5: By sending her through time with the Omega effect.. Even the most strongest can't survive reality blasts

@leonkarlen123: He's going up against half power Phoenix Wolverine, considering how strong The Phoenix Five were, with only a fifth of the power of The Phoenix Force, I'd say Wolverine could take a few reality bending pot shots. Also Phoenix, was able to take on Galactus, now imagine what Phoenix Wolverine could do. I know he doesn't have many feats so your argument is much stronger than mine. Honestly most of Phoenix Wolverine stats would be theoretical.

Lol

@isgavin_5:

Giving Characters Certain 'buffs' or Removing Powers

I generally don't have a problem with this, as long as it's not overdone. Things like upgrading certain characters to a certain physical levels, or removing powers for two opponents to gauge hand-to-hand skills is fine as long as the fight is fair in the process. However, giving people like Hulk the Power Cosmic or people like Nightwing a Green Lantern ring is unacceptable because neither character has displayed the skill and/or competence to use such weapons/items. That said, it would be difficult (and in most cases, nearly impossible) for people to debate. Threads of this nature will be locked if it becomes an issue.

@isgavin_5: But you only gave him half the power of Phoenix and Darkseid could probably take on Galactus and give him an good fight while 1/2 Phoenix wouldn't.. Galactus is not the strongest being in MARVEL you know

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@shawnbaby: I understand that, but Phoenix Wolverine is canon, he's not made up. Also is anything I cut his powers in half.

@leonkarlen123: Yeah but Galactus could beat Darkseid easily.

Canon or not...he has no feats.

All he did was float there and yell about killing everyone.

@shawnbaby: That's true has Hellverine vs Darkseid been done yet?