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#1 Posted by blazinasian112 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

We already know they didn't leave on best of terms after schism....just curious on who you think would win and why between:

Cyclops's x-tinction team: Cyclops, Emma Frost, Namor, Colossus (with Juggernaut power), Hope, Magneto, Danger, Magik, Storm

Versus Wolverine's Uncanny Xforce: Wolverine, Deadpool, Fantomex, Psylocke, Deathlok (let's throw in Genesis, Ultimaton, and nightcrawler AOA) to make it 8 on 8.

#2 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops' team would decimate X-Force. Complete spite.  
 
 
I like this thread =P

#3 Posted by BlackArmor (6134 posts) - - Show Bio

X-tinction stomps due to x-essive fire power

also this should be in the battle forums

#4 Posted by biggkeem89 (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Tinction team all the way. Magneto destroys Wolverine, Archangel, Deathlok, and Ultimaton right off the bat(all that metal to manipulate makes them easy picking) He then uses the rest of that metal to rip apart the rest of X-Force. The rest of the team doesn't even have to show up, and between Storm, Collossonaut, and Magik, X-Force dies anyway

#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Tinction no contest. Mags, Colosonaut and Emma Frost curbstomp.

#6 Posted by BlackArmor (6134 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

X-Tinction no contest. Mags, Colosonaut and Emma Frost curbstomp.

Not to mention that Cyke could vaporize anyone without a healing factor, Hope would have all there powers at once and, Namor can physically dominate anyone on wolverines team

#7 Posted by blazinasian112 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow surprised no one has picked Uncanny Xforce with fantomex as a wild card (although emma may be able to neutralize him) and kid apocalypse (Genesis)

#8 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor said:

@Gambit1024 said:

X-Tinction no contest. Mags, Colosonaut and Emma Frost curbstomp.

Not to mention that Cyke could vaporize anyone without a healing factor, Hope would have all there powers at once and, Namor can physically dominate anyone on wolverines team

And then there's Storm. Say what you want, but she'll fry anyone if they get too close.

#9 Posted by blazinasian112 (895 posts) - - Show Bio

I just can't help but to think when I look at the X-tinction team picture...imagine if Sinister turned a new leaf and was on there too....EPIC!

#10 Edited by BlackArmor (6134 posts) - - Show Bio

@blazinasian112 said:

I just can't help but to think when I look at the X-tinction team picture...imagine if Sinister turned a new leaf and was on there too....EPIC!

That would indeed be epic

#11 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope, Magik, Colossus, Magneto, Danger and maybe Emma and Storm all solo.

Hope-gets all their powers and uses it againts them.

Magik-teleports them into the sun or limbo or manipulates time and kills all of them.

Colossus-tramples all over them

Magneto- tears them apart litteraly

Danger-uses morphing, sonics, hacks in batlle satellites, solid light constructs, holograms, etc...

Emma and Storm- not sure about betsy but they both can take down the majority w/o pis.

Namor-without betsy can probably solo as well...

Cyclops- goes all out at the start might solo too..(most probably can't though)

not sure about the new guys though but E-team's whole roster can be team busters individually

#12 Posted by LoganX360 (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya Iz buggin !

Wolverine's Uncanny Xforce will defeat Cyclops, x-tinction

The fact that nightcrawler AOA would teleport / decap everyone's head before magneto could even concentrate on wolverines lighter would make this set of uncanny xforce dangerous .

Wolverine - too much dangeroom training knows their weakness's , fact he has killed magneto , strategic expert would most likely reflect cyclops beams back at his own team.

Deadpool - Hard to kill plays dirty & would comically kill magneto with plastic bullets .

Psylocke - did ya forget she's a ninja ? with enuff psi power to shutdown Emma Frost.

Fantomex - expert illusionist , wolverine would have him set a trap for the x-tinction & use mutant-killing" bullets plus telepathic blocking ceramics even magik would learn a few tricks from him

Deathlok - Sniper , nuffsaid .

Genesis - More solid holograms for traps , Shadowking on Storm she's gonna claustrophobicly catch a relapse .

Ultimaton - he would Electromagneticly radiate Namor into a filet-o-fish.

some team members i would trade tho , Fantomex , Genesis , & ultimaton for just dani moonstar as a valkyrie .

#13 Posted by fivestarga (239 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd take Cyke's tactics over Wolvie's anyday.

#14 Posted by papad1992 (6822 posts) - - Show Bio

Highly unlikely but I'd would have to Cyclops' team would dominate (sorry Psylocke!!)

#15 Posted by luckydomino1 (491 posts) - - Show Bio

i im a big wolverine fan but i would have to say xtcition team storm , collssus and, mags are big damage dealers every one else are average and cyke is the weakest one on that team not including hope and that demon girl so why are people overrating him

#16 Posted by Markall (174 posts) - - Show Bio

Colossus will solo, the others can go eat pie and drink tea.

#17 Posted by luckydomino1 (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markall: not thats just fanboyism

#18 Posted by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Extinction team decimates X-Force. Fantomex is honestly the only threat and he can be hit with area effect attack which pretty much everyone besides Namor, Frost and illyanna can generate or Danger can just shoot him up.

X-Force is outgunned and outnumbered, this is not a fight its a slaughter. To be quite Honest even with the help of X-Factor and Rogue's Legacy team, Wolverine would be hard pressed to pull out a win.

#19 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
Cyclops' team would decimate X-Force. Complete spite.
#20 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganX360 said:

Ya Iz buggin !

Wolverine's Uncanny Xforce will defeat Cyclops, x-tinction

The fact that nightcrawler AOA would teleport / decap everyone's head before magneto could even concentrate on wolverines lighter would make this set of uncanny xforce dangerous .

Wolverine - too much dangeroom training knows their weakness's , fact he has killed magneto , strategic expert would most likely reflect cyclops beams back at his own team.

Deadpool - Hard to kill plays dirty & would comically kill magneto with plastic bullets .

Psylocke - did ya forget she's a ninja ? with enuff psi power to shutdown Emma Frost.

Fantomex - expert illusionist , wolverine would have him set a trap for the x-tinction & use mutant-killing" bullets plus telepathic blocking ceramics even magik would learn a few tricks from him

Deathlok - Sniper , nuffsaid .

Genesis - More solid holograms for traps , Shadowking on Storm she's gonna claustrophobicly catch a relapse .

Ultimaton - he would Electromagneticly radiate Namor into a filet-o-fish.

some team members i would trade tho , Fantomex , Genesis , & ultimaton for just dani moonstar as a valkyrie .

and i thought im the only one who thinks like this

#21 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

... >__>

#22 Posted by Markall (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool: Lol NO

#23 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markall: great because x-force would totally kick asses!

#24 Posted by luckydomino1 (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganX360: wow lol this is the most i cant even explain what this is lol

#25 Posted by Tiamat (2087 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops' team would decimate X-Force. Complete spite. I like this thread =P
#26 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganX360 said:

Ya Iz buggin !

Wolverine's Uncanny Xforce will defeat Cyclops, x-tinction

The fact that nightcrawler AOA would teleport / decap everyone's head before magneto could even concentrate on wolverines lighter would make this set of uncanny xforce dangerous .

Wolverine - too much dangeroom training knows their weakness's , fact he has killed magneto , strategic expert would most likely reflect cyclops beams back at his own team.

Deadpool - Hard to kill plays dirty & would comically kill magneto with plastic bullets .

Psylocke - did ya forget she's a ninja ? with enuff psi power to shutdown Emma Frost.

Fantomex - expert illusionist , wolverine would have him set a trap for the x-tinction & use mutant-killing" bullets plus telepathic blocking ceramics even magik would learn a few tricks from him

Deathlok - Sniper , nuffsaid .

Genesis - More solid holograms for traps , Shadowking on Storm she's gonna claustrophobicly catch a relapse .

Ultimaton - he would Electromagneticly radiate Namor into a filet-o-fish.

some team members i would trade tho , Fantomex , Genesis , & ultimaton for just dani moonstar as a valkyrie .

Plastic Bullets are killing Magneto?

I think you are confusing movie Mags with comic Mags.

#27 Edited by BlackArmor (6134 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganX360 said:

Ya Iz buggin !

Wolverine's Uncanny Xforce will defeat Cyclops, x-tinction

The fact that nightcrawler AOA would teleport / decap everyone's head before magneto could even concentrate on wolverines lighter would make this set of uncanny xforce dangerous .

Wolverine - too much dangeroom training knows their weakness's , fact he has killed magneto , strategic expert would most likely reflect cyclops beams back at his own team.

Deadpool - Hard to kill plays dirty & would comically kill magneto with plastic bullets .

Psylocke - did ya forget she's a ninja ? with enuff psi power to shutdown Emma Frost.

Fantomex - expert illusionist , wolverine would have him set a trap for the x-tinction & use mutant-killing" bullets plus telepathic blocking ceramics even magik would learn a few tricks from him

Deathlok - Sniper , nuffsaid .

Genesis - More solid holograms for traps , Shadowking on Storm she's gonna claustrophobicly catch a relapse .

Ultimaton - he would Electromagneticly radiate Namor into a filet-o-fish.

some team members i would trade tho , Fantomex , Genesis , & ultimaton for just dani moonstar as a valkyrie .

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#28 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

Mostly everyone one can solo except for namor and cyclops.

#29 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

This so much spite for Cyke's team. The Marvel world's strongest and most god-like team against a bunch of mercenaries, assassins, and out right killers who took orders from Leader of the god-like team. On top of being way more powerful, they have a much smarter leader who is also a big damage dealer who may not kill the healers, but that doesn't mean he can't have others bfr them to places of no return. Should have done, Storm's X-force against Wolvie's X-force which I'd still give to Storm on account of her and colosuss raping everyone.

#30 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that I look at it even if this X-force team(all 8 tw named) only faced the 4 guys(Scott, Namor, Peter, and Erik) or just the 5 girls(Ororo, Emma, Hope, Illyanna, and Danger), they still get out powered and out planned.

#31 Edited by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt said:

Now that I look at it even if this X-force team(all 8 tw named) only faced the 4 guys(Scott, Namor, Peter, and Erik) or just the 5 girls(Ororo, Emma, Hope, Illyanna, and Danger), they still get out powered and out planned.

This.

X-Force fans, we're not saying this to talk down your team. It's just that they weren't built to take on a team like this. They're a stealth squad. If it's any consolation, they would mop the floor with the Secret Avengers.

#32 Posted by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

Not Really

Well I suppose they can beat the new one: Hawkeye, Black Widow, Pym (Giant Man), Grady (Ant Man), Venom, Human Torch (Original), Valkyrie and Beast.

Hmm yeah if they can defeat torch then X-Force can win. Although I doubt they can.

#33 Posted by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Tinction teams wins....but they'll have casualties. X-Force can't match their raw power, but they've got cunning & stealth on their side. I'd say Cyclops & Magik would prolly bite the bullet before Magneto, Storm and Collosonaut scatter their molecules to the seven winds leaving the newly minted Omega Psylocke to reassemble the pieces.

#34 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thunderscream: how would magik bite the bullet?

she can teleport all over the place and use her discs as multiple sheilds and she has armor which can take cl 100 blows from demons and is highly resistant to tp. she is the fastest person in this battle and can go anywhere in an instant. heck, she can attack them from a different dimension not need to be physically on the battle field.

Magneto can shield scott so can Magik and Hope. if anything shes one of the last people here they can take down. She brings them to limbo and its an even bigger massacre. She can slow time down too.

#35 Edited by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: I get it, they're all super powerful. I said extinction would win, the battle's obviously not even, but X-Force has an Omega Telepath/Telekinetic in Psylocke, Fantomex's misdirection is extremely effective and could easily throw off Magik's perception of where she's teleporting & Deadpool is a complete nutball with no qualms about throwing himself at a deadly target with knives drawn.

The X-Tinction team wouldn't just hide behind magnetic shields the whole time. That's just so incredibly lame.

#36 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thunderscream said:

@chiq: I get it, they're all super powerful. I said extinction would win, the battle's obviously not even, but X-Force has an Omega Telepath/Telekinetic in Psylocke, Fantomex's misdirection is extremely effective and could easily throw off Magik's perception of where she's teleporting & Deadpool is a complete nutball with no qualms about throwing himself at a deadly target with knives drawn.

The X-Tinction team wouldn't just hide behind magnetic shields the whole time. That's just so incredibly lame.

wirtten w/o pis and cis magik just teleports all of them into space in a split second. emma, xavier and other telepaths have failed to enter her mind. Storm, Cyclops, Namor go down before she does. Emma might be able to counter betsy...remains to be seen. Im just working with the powerset that each team possess. if you were scott why wouldnt you use mags shields? im not trying to bash x-force or anything, and betsy is one of my fave characters. its just a huge mismatch on all levels..

#37 Posted by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: I could easily say "Fantomex misdirects the entire X-Tinction team into killing themselves."

You're obviously a Magik super-fan and don't want to admit she has weaknesses.

#38 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thunderscream: i am a fan. she can be taken down by a someone like a powerful speedster. Im not saying magik can beat odin...as far as power most people will agree shes top 3 on this team. hey if you think shes weaksauce it's cool. i just disagree... no problem there. Hope is the most powerful for me followed by her then Colossus then Magneto. Danger is the fifth followed by namor and storm with Cyclops bringing in the rear. In my opinon at least.

#39 Posted by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: I didn't say she was "weaksauce", I said she has weaknesses. You seriously think she's the 2nd most powerful on that team.....I think most people would actually disagree but whatevs.

#40 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio
All ready to try and stop her if need be. edited/fixed

@Thunderscream: She is a hell lord and has taken down enchantress, belasco and even punked mephisto in his own realm. im talking about a fully powered magik. Just look at her powerset fully powered. time manipulation on a vast scale, black and white magics, soul sword, teleportaion, matter manipulation, rasing the dead, soul absorption, demon slaves and pets to attack, inferno magik fused the earth to limbo, etc...Hela, mephisto, dormamu, satanish, blackheart meet up to closely monitor her power levels...

well anyway...its cool. i admit the scans are a bit fanboyish. i apologize. People just tend to underestimate her a lot, since she isnt popular. everyone is entiled to their own opinion. and this is just my opinion.

#41 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

yes, magik can also just bfr them

#42 Posted by luckydomino1 (491 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: what ? since when was hope the strongest

#43 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

@luckydomino1 said:

@chiq: what ? since when was hope the strongest

Well, I'm going with potential ( all the yellow bars are insane power 7's across the boards are reserved for people like franklin, legion or wanda). Hope is also matched up with the scarlet witch in the upcoming avx series, so I am assuming they are the two biggest guns both sides have. She is also called the mutant messiah or the mutant anti christ.

If i were to rank the E-team in terms of power..I'd go with Hope, Magik and Colossus as the top tier since they are all fueled by very powerful magical and cosmic forces. Colossus is an Avatar of Cyttorak, Magik ( darkchilde mode) is a hell lord ( strange and cap said illyana going to the darkisde is a huge problem for earth and the magical realm in general, she is basically a god in limbo and can do almost anything there) and Hope might be the Avatar of the PF. So I have no problem with either of the 3 being called the most powerful, they all have the potential for causing a massive amount of destruction. I just think Hope is being set up as a huge potential threat for the Marvel Universe.

Magneto I'd rank fourth since while being one of the most powerful marvel earth individuals is still mortal. For me the top 3 (all immortal) just have higher gears they can tap into when bloodlusted.

I'd put Danger at five since she is a shia'r super robot with very versatile powers and it looks like she is very hard to kill herself( she can just upload herself to another machine or absorb other machines) on top of super strength and durability. She might be immortal too. Storm, Emma and Namor are traditionally x-team powerhouses but they simply can't compete with the type of power the Extinction Team powerhouses have. In my opinion they simply pale in comparison power wise to the top 3 and magneto ( which is saying a lot for the team) so i would go with:

  1. Hope ( assuming she lives up to the hype)
  2. Magik/Colossus (slight edge to magik since she is way way more versatile) the soul sword might be able to hurt pete. Her time,space and dimension travelling and time and matter manipulation can do all sorts of havok. She is a sorcerer supreme and absolute ruler of a highly magical realm. vs an Avatar of Cyttorak
  3. Magneto ( a far 4th for me which actually shows how stacked this team is)
  4. Danger ( written correctly i can see her as huge powerhouse, she is designed to take on x-teams by herself) she has toyed with the atonishing x-men line up.
  5. Storm/Emma/Namor depends what you need.
  6. Scott

It really is a insanely powerful team written to its full potential. like the others said "godlike" for marvel

#44 Posted by WeaponX619 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool: I agree to a certain extent, depends on how long wolverine's team has to prepare and how long he stays in the fight, would love to see genesis go against hope

#45 Edited by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:

@luckydomino1 said:

@chiq: what ? since when was hope the strongest

Well, I'm going with potential ( all the yellow bars are insane power 7's across the boards are reserved for people like franklin, legion or wanda). Hope is also matched up with the scarlet witch in the upcoming avx series, so I am assuming they are the two biggest guns both sides have. She is also called the mutant messiah or the mutant anti christ.

If i were to rank the E-team in terms of power..I'd go with Hope, Magik and Colossus as the top tier since they are all fueled by very powerful magical and cosmic forces. Colossus is an Avatar of Cyttorak, Magik ( darkchilde mode) is a hell lord ( strange and cap said illyana going to the darkisde is a huge problem for earth and the magical realm in general, she is basically a god in limbo and can do almost anything there) and Hope might be the Avatar of the PF. So I have no problem with either of the 3 being called the most powerful, they all have the potential for causing a massive amount of destruction. I just think Hope is being set up as a huge potential threat for the Marvel Universe.

Magneto I'd rank fourth since while being one of the most powerful marvel earth individuals is still mortal. For me the top 3 (all immortal) just have higher gears they can tap into when bloodlusted.

I'd put Danger at five since she is a shia'r super robot with very versatile powers and it looks like she is very hard to kill herself( she can just upload herself to another machine or absorb other machines) on top of super strength and durability. She might be immortal too. Storm, Emma and Namor are traditionally x-team powerhouses but they simply can't compete with the type of power the Extinction Team powerhouses have. In my opinion they simply pale in comparison power wise to the top 3 and magneto ( which is saying a lot for the team) so i would go with:

  1. Hope ( assuming she lives up to the hype)
  2. Magik/Colossus (slight edge to magik since she is way way more versatile) the soul sword might be able to hurt pete. Her time,space and dimension travelling and time and matter manipulation can do all sorts of havok. She is a sorcerer supreme and absolute ruler of a highly magical realm. vs an Avatar of Cyttorak
  3. Magneto ( a far 4th for me which actually shows how stacked this team is)
  4. Danger ( written correctly i can see her as huge powerhouse, she is designed to take on x-teams by herself) she has toyed with the atonishing x-men line up.
  5. Storm/Emma/Namor depends what you need.
  6. Scott

It really is a insanely powerful team written to its full potential. like the others said "godlike" for marvel

Hmm interesting. I suppose if I had to break into tiers.

I would say Hope, Magik and Colossus are tier one.

Magneto, Danger and Storm are tier two.

Emma, Scott and Namor are tier three.

This is all assuming of course characters are written up to potential. Which Magik is usually not. Storm, Magneto and Danger are looking varying degrees lower then they should. The rest are fine.

As for Genesis please he could not even beat Warren. The guy got stabbed multiple times by characters with little to no enhanced strengths. Genesis is not a match for hope at all. He would be hard pressed to beat Summers from what I saw. Maybe in the future but at current levels hell no.

#46 Edited by chiq (1911 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skaddix: agreed. The top 3 are usually nerfed since them being fully powered and using all of their abilities means the fight ends in a second.

What's stopping magik from just porting all of them into limbo every battle? limbo is closer to her then my cell phone is to me. she can teleport weapons and limbs away like she did cap's sheild. or putting up shields for all her teammates? She can teleport them out of harms way from the saftey of limbo.With her scurying pool, she can survey the battle field and turn Colossus into a juggernaut with night crawler powers. She can time travel and beat them before they even attack. why doesn't she just slow time down all the time? she just swings her sword most of the time...i guess her falling into the dark side is the best excuse they can come up with to nerf her.

Hope can draw on every non magical and tech abilitiy her team possesses. She is surrounded by 8 extremely powerful mutants. She can get tap into magiks teleportaion, emmas telepathy, Colossus armor, namor's strength, storm and magneto's energy manipulation powers. like magik falling to the dark side is also the fail safe button to prevent her from unleasing her full potential. Actually same can be said of Colossus.

Colossus is the Avatar of Cyttorak..no explanation needed. They suffer the same fate uber powerful chracters like photon or flash or surfer face when put on a team. they job like crazy and fight like idiots. But all three have to depowered since they are all battling with their " inner demons".

#47 Posted by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

well actually hope and colossus have logical reasons. Hope is simply incomptent and is not very good at using her powers so her ability to multi tap is not what it should be. Piotr is trying to control himself so is limiting his destructive impulses so in my book they are fine because they have good in story reasons for not maxing out.

magik though never uses her ability to cast spells and is horribly uncreative with her teleport powers for no reason.

Photon and Flash also suffer from the no good reason clause which i have a problem with. But if there is good story reason for nonperforming i am fine with it.

#48 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10055 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the X-tinction team would pretty much stomp. As stated, with Magneto, Storm, Emma and Namor... way too much fire power for X-Force.

#49 Posted by camd (85 posts) - - Show Bio

While I agree Cyclop's x-tinction team has several powerhouses, I feel uncanny xforce has Weapon X powerhouses of their own that are not given their due credit. We forget Wolverine is the best at what he does and has tangled with and held up against the Hulk and Thor (who IMO are stronger than juggernaut), Deadpool is a deadly wild card that is dangerous when he wants to be....has beaten Black Tom/Juggernaut and has given Cable a run for his money. Then there is Fantomex whose reality altering ability can throw a wrench in things....

#50 Posted by Skaddix (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto strips X-forces weapons. Fantomex while cheap can still be nailed with aoe of which extinction has plenty plus danger should be immune.