Captain America retains all knowledge of his techniques etc. He is just depowered (no super soldier serum)
vs
Classic Cyclops
Straight hand to hand combat only.
Captain America retains all knowledge of his techniques etc. He is just depowered (no super soldier serum)
vs
Classic Cyclops
Straight hand to hand combat only.
Scrawny Cap has some OK feats against trained soldiers, but he won't fare very well against Cyke's optic blast.
Straight hand to hand combat only.
@Mr_Ingenuity: dude stop posting memes on everything
@texasdeathmatch: OP said nothing about his optic blast.... I guess that means Cyclops has no optic blast. In that case Cap may be able to win, he lacks the physical advantage but he is still a better fighter than Cyclops.
@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?
Why??@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?
@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.
Under normal conditions, false.@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?
@Mr_Ingenuity: I'm sure the OP didn't mean Phoenix Force Cyclops. That would be obviously unfair.
True, true.....I think anyone with a bit of intelligence can probably figure he doesn't mean P5 Cyclops@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.
Captain America was sickly, tiny, frail and lame in the leg. Cyclops stomps.
Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.
@god_spawn said:
Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.
That's impressive. Did not know that. I was thinking Cyclops intially because, while significantly out skilled, Scott would be far superior physically but from what you mentioned, Cap doesn't seem like the lack of serum makes him physically frailer than the average human.
There was a thread that came to the conclusion that his skill is because of his formula enhanced brain. He started at a late age compared to most heroes, received most of his training during WW2 which would have included very little h2h and would not hold a candle to modern combat training. His win's while depowered are a common comic book trope where depowered superheroes are incredibly skilled fighters, sometimes performing even better than when they had powers regardless of how much sense it makes.
Depowered a man of Scott's build and intense training would beat the 7 shades out of Cap.
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