#1 Edited by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America retains all knowledge of his techniques etc. He is just depowered (no super soldier serum)

vs

Classic Cyclops

Straight hand to hand combat only.

#2 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Scrawny Cap has some OK feats against trained soldiers, but he won't fare very well against Cyke's optic blast.

#3 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@ChaosBlazer:
 
 @heymanjack said:
Straight hand to hand combat only.
#4 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: dude stop posting memes on everything

@texasdeathmatch: OP said nothing about his optic blast.... I guess that means Cyclops has no optic blast. In that case Cap may be able to win, he lacks the physical advantage but he is still a better fighter than Cyclops.

#5 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7676 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

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#6 Posted by cattlebattle (12998 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

Why??
#7 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@ChaosBlazer: Yeah, wouldn't really make sense if he had his blasts, now would it?
#8 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7676 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.

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#9 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@ChaosBlazer: @texasdeathmatch: I'm under the impression Cyclops has super human strength. Correct?

Under normal conditions, false. 
 
Captain America still wins unless this is Phoenix Cyclops (current, per the OP).
 
 
@heymanjack: Either change version for Cyclops or this gets locked.
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#10 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mr_Ingenuity: I'm sure the OP didn't mean Phoenix Force Cyclops. That would be obviously unfair.

#11 Posted by cattlebattle (12998 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr_Ingenuity said:

@cattlebattle: Currently Massive power upgrade.

True, true.....I think anyone with a bit of intelligence can probably figure he doesn't mean P5 Cyclops
#12 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7676 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle:

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#13 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Cyclops. My Bad.

#14 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America was sickly, tiny, frail and lame in the leg. Cyclops stomps.

#15 Posted by God_Spawn (38111 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.

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#16 Posted by Dark_Magician (205 posts) - - Show Bio

I am going with Cyclops.

#17 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10654 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

Cap. Even without the formula he's handled himself against albeit not as skilled, super soldiers enhanced guys and he's bested Crossbones as well. He holds a significant skill edge over Cykes that even in his depowered state he should beat him.

That's impressive. Did not know that. I was thinking Cyclops intially because, while significantly out skilled, Scott would be far superior physically but from what you mentioned, Cap doesn't seem like the lack of serum makes him physically frailer than the average human.

#18 Posted by Dextersinister (6353 posts) - - Show Bio

There was a thread that came to the conclusion that his skill is because of his formula enhanced brain. He started at a late age compared to most heroes, received most of his training during WW2 which would have included very little h2h and would not hold a candle to modern combat training. His win's while depowered are a common comic book trope where depowered superheroes are incredibly skilled fighters, sometimes performing even better than when they had powers regardless of how much sense it makes.

Depowered a man of Scott's build and intense training would beat the 7 shades out of Cap.

#19 Edited by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

Depowered Steve in action. Oh and these gents all have the SS formula.

#20 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#21 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

Depowered Steve in action. Oh and these gents all have the SS formula.

Owned.

Steve wins.