Cyclops vs Mr. Fantastic

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#1  Edited By WeaponX510

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No Prep
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Fight Starts in New York City downtown 100 feet away from eachother(Daytime)
Fight to the Death
Who wins and Why?

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#2  Edited By DaddyCool

I would have to say Richards wins.

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#3  Edited By mattbryce2000

can cyclops take off his visor? if so and the battle is in the day, i think he could take it.

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#4  Edited By rbysjti

Cyclops wins here easily. Mr. Fantastic has no way to block those optic blasts or he'll burn.
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#5  Edited By mattbryce2000
@rbysjti:
he wont burn. there is no heat.
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#6  Edited By rbysjti
@mattbryce2000 said:
"@rbysjti: he wont burn. there is no heat. "

I'm sorry. But the force is strong enough to kill Mr. Fantastic.
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#7  Edited By DaddyCool
@rbysjti said:
" @mattbryce2000 said:
"@rbysjti: he wont burn. there is no heat. "
I'm sorry. But the force is strong enough to kill Mr. Fantastic. "
That is if Reed stood there and let himself get pummeled by the blasts., but he has enough control over his body to dodge the blasts or even if he does get hit he can move the area being fired at.
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#8  Edited By angryvigilante

Mr fantastic has taken on more powerful foes then Cyclops.

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It's a stalemate.
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#10  Edited By Decoy Elite

I'm going with Mr.Fantastic.

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#11  Edited By jacobyLIVE

Mr. F. Cyke would use up all his energy trying to make a significant amount of damage,and then Mr.F would would giant-fist-smash him into little Cyclops-pieces 

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#13  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Edamame: 
I think he might be able to, but I don't think he'd be able to hit Mr.Fantastic.
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Assuming this isn't bloodlusted, I actually think that Reed could win.
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#16  Edited By LT1085

if cyclops hit RR with an optic blast it would look like a balloon with human extremeties being inflated. No prep time just means that they have the same amount of time from when the fight starts to study and neutralize their opponent. while Cyke may be a master strategist, Richards' intelligence is just ridiculous with an imagination and creativity that can really be described as deus ex machina. but i'll say Cyke blasts him full force, the balloon expansion effect happens and on the snap back to normal form smacks Cyke into a wall and he dies on impact. Or of course Mr. fanastic unleashes a s.p.i.n. tech nano fleet into the air that he carries on him at all times, because you just can't be too careful raising a family in New York.

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#17  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Edamame: 
The same way he avoids any attack. Change his shape. Mr.Fantastic seems to be a master dodger, I'd say he might be better at dodging than Spiderman.
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#18  Edited By Ferro Vida
@jacobyLIVE said:
" Mr. F. Cyke would use up all his energy trying to make a significant amount of damage,and then Mr.F would would giant-fist-smash him into little Cyclops-pieces  "
The Hell?...
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#19  Edited By jacobyLIVE
@Ferro Vida said:
" @jacobyLIVE said:
" Mr. F. Cyke would use up all his energy trying to make a significant amount of damage,and then Mr.F would would giant-fist-smash him into little Cyclops-pieces  "
The Hell?... "
He tires out if he uses his optic blasts for too long
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#20  Edited By Ferro Vida
@jacobyLIVE: ... No he doesn't. His body constantly converts solar energy to the heat less, concussive force that he produces.
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#21  Edited By capall
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Assuming this isn't bloodlusted, I actually think that Reed could win. "
isn't this to the death according to the op?
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#22  Edited By jacobyLIVE
@Ferro Vida:  http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_(Earth-616)   read about his optic blasts. 
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#23  Edited By Ferro Vida
@jacobyLIVE:Wikis can be editted by anyone. Can you please present a scan of him tiring out from continuously using his optic blast?
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@capall said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Assuming this isn't bloodlusted, I actually think that Reed could win. "
isn't this to the death according to the op? "
Yeah, I somehow forgot about that when I came back and posted on this thread. Anyhow, Cyclops should easily win if he fights out of character. 
 
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"@Ferro Vida:  http://marvel.wikia.com/Scott_Summers_(Earth-616)   read about his optic blasts.  "

Never use any wiki article as a source on here 
 
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#25  Edited By capall
@The Mjolnir Wielder:  
i figured as much, lol 
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#26  Edited By CylonDorado

So would the blast punch through Reed, or would he just strech back into shape when Cyclops is done? That's what it boils down to.

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#27  Edited By jacobyLIVE
@Ferro Vida:  I can't. But Marvel is trying to void making characters too powerful,so a weakness is probable. I don't wanna argue,I was just saying what I read..
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#28  Edited By Micky

Mr. Fantastic Wins hands down Mr. fantastic could fuck cyclops over in a lot of ways he can stretch and dodge cyclops blast and wrap around him squeeze the life out of him he could give him a big fist to the gut you get the point and plus Reed Richards is one of the smartest people in the world he got his ways so yea nuff said Mr Fantastic would make cyclops bites the dust :D

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#29  Edited By WeaponX510
@CylonDorado said:
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So would the blast punch through Reed, or would he just strech back into shape when Cyclops is done? That's what it boils down to.

"
yea
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#30  Edited By Goenitz

It's a good match. I'm not sure here.

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#31  Edited By chris kent

really this fight depend on two thing...one if Mr.Fantastic can get close..the fight goes to him.....but if Cyclops can stay away  he win....so the fight can go both ways dude!!!!    
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#32  Edited By Lupine
@Ferro Vida said:
" @jacobyLIVE: ... No he doesn't. His body constantly converts solar energy to the heat less, concussive force that he produces. "
Actually I thought the official tag line these days was that Cyclops doesn't produce the energy but rather his eyes contain dimensional apertures that his body keeps open by absorbing solar radiation. So in effect his eyes are a dimensional gateway into a dimension that is simply filled with concussive force/ energy. If I remember correctly that was said to actually make him more powerful to the point that he wouldn't run out of energy because he has a near limitless amount. And likewise with the older incarnations it could be explained as his body no longer having the solar energy it needed to keep the apertures open. 
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#33  Edited By jacobyLIVE
@Lupine: Yeah,that's the explanation as of now. But it said he was affected by mental fatigue,probably from focusing his blasts. He is probably physically able to keep them open for a large amount of time. But his mind weakens. I think 
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#34  Edited By Andferne
@Micky: Watch your language.
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#35  Edited By weapon x badazz

Reed wins this in a good fight
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#36  Edited By Andferne
@Ferro Vida said:
" Can you please present a scan of him tiring out from continuously using his optic blast? "
Won't ever happen because it never has happened. Unless I have missed something. Closest thing would be him sweating. But that can also be given to physical exertion too, not just using his blasts at a higher level.
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#37  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Lupine said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @jacobyLIVE: ... No he doesn't. His body constantly converts solar energy to the heat less, concussive force that he produces. "
Actually I thought the official tag line these days was that Cyclops doesn't produce the energy but rather his eyes contain dimensional apertures that his body keeps open by absorbing solar radiation. So in effect his eyes are a dimensional gateway into a dimension that is simply filled with concussive force/ energy. If I remember correctly that was said to actually make him more powerful to the point that he wouldn't run out of energy because he has a near limitless amount. And likewise with the older incarnations it could be explained as his body no longer having the solar energy it needed to keep the apertures open.  "
I remember reading that too, but it wanted to keep it simple because I couldn't recall the exact passage.
 
@Andferne said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" Can you please present a scan of him tiring out from continuously using his optic blast? "
Won't ever happen because it never has happened. Unless I have missed something. Closest thing would be him sweating. But that can also be given to physical exertion too, not just using his blasts at a higher level. "

I know that, and you know that, but he doesn't :)
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#38  Edited By Manchine

Got to say Mr. Fantastic wins this.
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#40  Edited By ForeverEvil

reed

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#41  Edited By patrat18

Reed.

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#42  Edited By laidblack

I'm sure arguments could be made for both sides here, but as far as who I would pick for a win personally, I'd go with Fantastic.

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Reed for a majority.

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#45 god_spawn  Moderator

@jashro44: I might side with Reed. As long as he can keep lucid enough to tank then avoid a beam, once he wraps up Scott, the fight is done.

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#47  Edited By Toratorn

Reed has already no sold a full power blast from brainwashed Scott. He one-shots.

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Reed.

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#49 MajinBlackheart  Moderator

Mr. Fantastic got this

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@toratorn: Do you have those scans? genuinely interested