Cyclops vs Iron Fist

well cyke has the experience with the danger room type training but i think danny still outclasses him in combat skills,hf. If the fight is in character cyke won't use the full force of his optic blast either

" Danny can amp up his durability with his chi, right?  If so, then I could see him using that and his agility to tank a couple shots and get close enough to possibly land a ko blow... "

" @whacknasty said:

" Danny can amp up his durability with his chi, right?  If so, then I could see him using that and his agility to tank a couple shots and get close enough to possibly land a ko blow... "

Not only that but think of his hands as almost indestructible while he is using it. Optic blasts won't do crap to any part of his body he makes Iron Like.  Next will be following by a bunch of punches and kicks to Scotts face and ass. "

You people do know that Cyclops is capable of changing the size, width, and even concentrating his blasts. Likewise he's a master tactician, capable of complex geometric calculations in his head and using that to bounce blasts off of surfaces in his combat area to hit from unexpected directions He can give Danny trouble in a lot of ways.  
 
I think Danny wins, but he's probably not going to tank anything. He'd probably use his speed, agility, and skill to get in. Amp his body with Chi so he can take an optic blast or two . And use superior h2h to finish things. 

" You people do know that Cyclops is capable of changing the size, width, and even concentrating his blasts. Likewise he's a master tactician, capable of complex geometric calculations in his head and using that to bounce blasts off of surfaces in his combat area to hit from unexpected directions He can give Danny trouble in a lot of ways.   I think Danny wins, but he's probably not going to tank anything. He'd probably use his speed, agility, and skill to get in. Amp his body with Chi so he can take an optic blast or two . And use superior h2h to finish things.  "

It is about distance. Cyclops could bring Iron Fist down before he could get close enough to defeat him.

"It is about distance. Cyclops could bring Iron Fist down before he could get close enough to defeat him. "

" @Morpheus_: lmao "

" This thread has Andy's name written all over it. "

If Iron Fist can find anyway to engage him close range he will easily KO Cyclops...

" If Iron Fist can find anyway to engage him close range he will easily KO Cyclops... "

" If Iron Fist can find anyway to engage him close range he will easily KO Cyclops... "

" @Vance Astro said:

" If Iron Fist can find anyway to engage him close range he will easily KO Cyclops... "

K So who do you think wins and why "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" This thread has Andy's name written all over it. "

Who is Andy? And why do you feel he has anything to do with my thread? "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" This thread has Andy's name written all over it. "

Who is Andy? And why do you feel he has anything to do with my thread? "

He is the most knowledgeable user on both characters. So he should be able  recognise weak and strong points for both characters and make a good case for either one if he wishes to.   "

" @weapon x badazz: Why remove his visor? he is quite capable of leveling forests and punching holes in Sentinels with it on. He has more than enough power and control with the Visor on to take to on a lot of power houses.
 
@StrongestOneThereIs: Sure pick a side. I'll debate for the other person. "

" @StrongestOneThereIs:  lol Ok sure. "

"So don't take it to seriously "

" So that's who did he fight 
Who did he compare him to  
And who did he mistake him for "

" You people do know that Cyclops is capable of changing the size, width, and even concentrating his blasts. Likewise he's a master tactician, capable of complex geometric calculations in his head and using that to bounce blasts off of surfaces in his combat area to hit from unexpected directions He can give Danny trouble in a lot of ways.   I think Danny wins, but he's probably not going to tank anything. He'd probably use his speed, agility, and skill to get in. Amp his body with Chi so he can take an optic blast or two . And use superior h2h to finish things.  "

" @Vance Astro:  I said a simulation of New York  So they wouldn't need to worry about destruction or lost of innocent life "

" @Lupine said:

" You people do know that Cyclops is capable of changing the size, width, and even concentrating his blasts. Likewise he's a master tactician, capable of complex geometric calculations in his head and using that to bounce blasts off of surfaces in his combat area to hit from unexpected directions He can give Danny trouble in a lot of ways.   I think Danny wins, but he's probably not going to tank anything. He'd probably use his speed, agility, and skill to get in. Amp his body with Chi so he can take an optic blast or two . And use superior h2h to finish things.  "

I agree with this, more or less. In the provided setting Danny will have some cover to work with, and I he should be able to tag Cyclops with a piece of Chi-charged rubble. This fight is either going to be a long, drawn out game of cat and mouse or over within twenty seconds. "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Vance Astro:  I said a simulation of New York  So they wouldn't need to worry about destruction or lost of innocent life "

Which still makes the fight in favor of Cyclops.... "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

"So don't take it to seriously "

Dangit. You ruined what my answer was going to be.
 
@StrongestOneThereIs said:

" So that's who did he fight 
Who did he compare him to  
And who did he mistake him for "

Bob Dole to all three. lol jk "

" @Ferro Vida said:

" @Lupine said:

" You people do know that Cyclops is capable of changing the size, width, and even concentrating his blasts. Likewise he's a master tactician, capable of complex geometric calculations in his head and using that to bounce blasts off of surfaces in his combat area to hit from unexpected directions He can give Danny trouble in a lot of ways.   I think Danny wins, but he's probably not going to tank anything. He'd probably use his speed, agility, and skill to get in. Amp his body with Chi so he can take an optic blast or two . And use superior h2h to finish things.  "

I agree with this, more or less. In the provided setting Danny will have some cover to work with, and I he should be able to tag Cyclops with a piece of Chi-charged rubble. This fight is either going to be a long, drawn out game of cat and mouse or over within twenty seconds. "

I doubt this is going to happen.Danny isn't that fast and it's a simulated city.There is no real cover.Cyclops can just hold a beam and turn his head.Danny's not going to have time to do anything. "

" @Vance Astro: 
@Andferne: Never said this was to the death So Cyclops would be holding back And Danny would be able to use cover And he has been shown to move through a city like Daredevil "

" @Vance Astro: 
@Andferne: Never said this was to the death So Cyclops would be holding back And Danny would be able to use cover And he has been shown to move through a city like Daredevil "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Vance Astro: 
@Andferne: Never said this was to the death So Cyclops would be holding back And Danny would be able to use cover And he has been shown to move through a city like Daredevil "

Matt has stated on panel before that Danny isn't as good of an acrobat as he is. Just for posterity' sake. "

" @Ferro Vida said:

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Vance Astro: 
@Andferne: Never said this was to the death So Cyclops would be holding back And Danny would be able to use cover And he has been shown to move through a city like Daredevil "

Matt has stated on panel before that Danny isn't as good of an acrobat as he is. Just for posterity' sake. "

He easily kept up with DD at their first meeting "

"After all, Storm has been able to do it. "

" @Ferro Vida said:

"After all, Storm has been able to do it. "

Scott was hardly in the right mindset when they battled for leadership too. "

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Ferro Vida said:

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Vance Astro: 
@Andferne: Never said this was to the death So Cyclops would be holding back And Danny would be able to use cover And he has been shown to move through a city like Daredevil "

Matt has stated on panel before that Danny isn't as good of an acrobat as he is. Just for posterity' sake. "

He easily kept up with DD at their first meeting "

No he didn't. They fought briefly, during which they commented on each other's skill, then Matt jumped away from him, up onto a parade float to get to a kid that the Kingpin's men were after. "

" @StrongestOneThereIs: They fought for thirty seconds!  So you're comparing today's Danny to Matt from the early eighties? "