#1 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

If cyclops and havok was not immune to each other powers then who would win???

#2 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a hard decision but honestly I still think cyclops would win because cyclops power is infinite while havok powers have limits.

#3 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool2421 said:

This is a hard decision but honestly I still think cyclops would win because cyclops power is infinite while havok powers have limits.

Cyclops may have an entire universe of energy at his disposal but due to his physical limitations, your point is moot.

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#4 Posted by MisterWhisper (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott would win because he is MUCH smarter and a MUCH better strategist.

#5 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Alex gives Scott exactly what he deserves.
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#6 Posted by MisterWhisper (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: A win? Yes, Yes he does.

#7 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn

So u believe havok would beat cyclops if he wasn't immune to his powers?
#8 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool2421: No. I'm saying exactly what I said to you. Cyclops' power is held back based on his own physical limits. Just because he has a possibly infinite source of power does not mean he can expel said infinite amounts of that power. Scott's body gets too tired and his power begins to wain til the energy just spurts out and he must wait til he absorbs enough solar energy to keep the portal open for more powerful blasts again. Your reason of why he wins doesn't garner him a win.

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#9 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@MisterWhisper said:

@Morpheus_: A win? Yes, Yes he does.

Sorry, next time I will use caps lock in an unfortunate effort to emphasize my point better.
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#10 Posted by MisterWhisper (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_: I got your point, you were just wrong.

#11 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn

I fully understand that. no that doesn't mean he will win for that reason along. But, I think it put cyclops at an advantage over his brother. The fact that he is better in h2h combat and a much better strategist than his younger brother gived
#12 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry I didn't finish that last comment. But I hope u understand what I'm tryin to say.

#13 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@MisterWhisper: Your reply just confirmed you did not.
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#14 Posted by whacknasty (5626 posts) - - Show Bio

Alex is more powerful overall if I remember right...and as god_spawn pointed out earlier, Cyke has more strict limits on how much he can exert himself, which I don't think Alex has (outside of suits designed to keep him from obliterating everything around him accidentally).

So my vote goes to Havok.

#15 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool2421: Don't worry about finishing but the only point you originally put was Cyclops has a bigger power source and no it does not give him any sort of advantage over Havok. Whether you think he wins because of being a better strategist and h2h fighter was irrelevant to the original point cause you didn't post it. And being a better h2h fight is also irrelevant here. This fight isn't gonna come down to that either.

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#16 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3507 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn

Ur right its definately not gonna come down to h2h. But I was pointin out that he is a lot better. Honestly, I think cyclops will win regardless of his physical limits. I think he will hit havok before havok hits him.
#17 Edited by MisterWhisper (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

I see it going like this:

Scott: "Alex, why do we have to fight, what are we doing here?"

Alex: "Well, I don't..." *ZOT* Optic blast to the face.

Scott: "Sucker."

#18 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Havok.

#19 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10654 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it could go either way.

#20 Posted by God_Spawn (38114 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol.

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#21 Posted by The Finality (133 posts) - - Show Bio

If this was actually a battle of who would win if neither was immune to the other's powers, and Havok and Cyclops' energy could be unleashed to it's full potential, the world would go nuclear, A. from Havok absorbing energy from all the stars in the sky, and B. Cyke's Optic Blast point of origin stays infinetly open. It would suck for everyone. That being said, Havok has to hold back his abilities with the suit so they don't get out of hand. Cyclops has the energy output of a nuclear reactor according to Iron Man, and just from both of their skills manipulating a simple energy blast in combat into a variety of uses, I think it could honestly go either way. Both have experience in leadership and strategy, and both have a firm grasp on how to use their abilities. The main difference is that Scott is more level headed and careful, taking time to exploit weaknesses, while Alex is more quick to jump the gun. Kind of like the best defense is a good offense. He's not as rash as say, Wolverine, but he's a lot more hotheaded than Cyclops.

#22 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (944 posts) - - Show Bio

who has a stronger energy output or just stronger laser thingies in general??

#23 Posted by LoveJesus (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops would win it would be close but he would pull it out