#1 Posted by mikemaximum (793 posts) - - Show Bio

All fights take place in an Octogon setting, H2H only, no rules, no morals, fight until the death or KO. ALL characters are at normal human levels, no powers and no weapons.

Round 1: Barbara Gordon and Catwoman

Round 2: Shadowcat and Jessica Drew

Round 3: Black Widow and Elektra

Round 4: Psylocke

Round 5: Wonder Woman

Wolverine & X-Men #1 (edited)
By Ed Benes
Psylocke by Dave Lopez
#2 Edited by _slim_ (13051 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't make it past round 3.

#3 Posted by God_Spawn (37180 posts) - - Show Bio

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#4 Posted by _slim_ (13051 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#5 Posted by Billy Batson (57706 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

-_-

BB

#6 Posted by God_Spawn (37180 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson: Using my own creation against me? Crafty, Billy.

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#7 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@_slim_ said:

Doesn't make it past round 3.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Round 1 and 2 are going to be challenging, given that it's two on one.
#8 Posted by Lord Shiva (794 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really trying to figure out how he gets pass Catwoman. He can hold his own with Wolverine because he trained with him but Catwoman in no slouch when it comes to fighting. Hell I even see Kitty giving him problems, shoot he might not even see level 3.

#9 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Doesn't make it past round 3.

#10 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Stops at 1.
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#11 Posted by Montaq (932 posts) - - Show Bio

Likely loses at round one, could probably win round two, definitely loses round three.

#12 Posted by TDK_1997 (14446 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he will pass Catwoman.

#13 Posted by tg1982 (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops doesn't get past round two.

#14 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
Stops at 1.
Barbara stops for half an hour to have an inner monologue about how she used to be in a wheelchair (in case you forget). While she does that Cyclops faces off with Catwoman one on one.
#15 Posted by whacknasty (5599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Stops at 1.

That was my first thought as well...lol. I didn't want to short change Cyke, but that one looks tough.

#16 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
 While she does that Cyclops faces off with Catwoman one on one.
And loses, because she's superior in technique and agility, with a far more consistent record in unarmed combat than he does.
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#17 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
@Ferro Vida said:
 While she does that Cyclops faces off with Catwoman one on one.
And loses, because she's superior in technique and agility, with a far more consistent record in unarmed combat than he does.
Why do you have to spoil my fun >:
#18 Edited by HBKTimHBK (5240 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 1, Selina can take him.

#19 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida: 'Tis what I do best.
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#20 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: Well you have a sexy new AV, so I forgive you.
#21 Posted by Rickbarry (1744 posts) - - Show Bio

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

#22 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (9892 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

#23 Posted by Sydneytuah (300 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at 1

he doesnt hit girls

unless he is bloodlusted

#24 Posted by Joygirl (18136 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is he facing all women? What are you trying to say about Cyclops...? >.> Oh, and he gets massacred in the first round since either could probably solo. It goes downhill from there.

#25 Posted by nickzambuto (12679 posts) - - Show Bio

BAG GAWD DAT ELECTRA PIC

#26 Posted by Nefarious (18363 posts) - - Show Bio

He loses at Round 1...

#27 Posted by mavfan626 (4119 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Stops at 1.
#28 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

All these mutants made into normal humans? Cyclops kills himself before round one.

#29 Posted by Sherlock (7189 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

Kitty is one of the better Xmen when it comes to H2H actually

Scott isnt stupid he sees his list of opponents and books it

#30 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (9892 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

Kitty is one of the better Xmen when it comes to H2H actually

Scott isnt stupid he sees his list of opponents and books it

I agree to an extent but from what I have seen, Kitty is skilled based on descriptions in a handbook. She, like Cyclops, lacks the showings on panel to really show where she falls in h2h skill. I haven't seen Kitty fighting any trained fighters in h2h, at least not without relying on her phasing, to state she would be better than Scott.

#31 Posted by Sherlock (7189 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

Kitty is one of the better Xmen when it comes to H2H actually

Scott isnt stupid he sees his list of opponents and books it

I agree to an extent but from what I have seen, Kitty is skilled based on descriptions in a handbook. She, like Cyclops, lacks the showings on panel to really show where she falls in h2h skill. I haven't seen Kitty fighting any trained fighters in h2h, at least not without relying on her phasing, to state she would be better than Scott.

Agree on the topic of handbooks.Yes Kitty uses her phasing in a fight i mean why wouldnt she?One thing you can look and and say she is better is that she trains students in H2H.Scott doesnt

#32 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Stops at 1.

I don't think he can take BG let alone CW... he's good but h2h is their bread and butter

#33 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

Kitty is one of the better Xmen when it comes to H2H actually

Scott isnt stupid he sees his list of opponents and books it

I agree to an extent but from what I have seen, Kitty is skilled based on descriptions in a handbook. She, like Cyclops, lacks the showings on panel to really show where she falls in h2h skill. I haven't seen Kitty fighting any trained fighters in h2h, at least not without relying on her phasing, to state she would be better than Scott.

Agree on the topic of handbooks.Yes Kitty uses her phasing in a fight i mean why wouldnt she?One thing you can look and and say she is better is that she trains students in H2H.Scott doesnt

Scott tends to be kind of busy running a school/country :p He does hold two black belts and is an expert at ground fighting. He just doesn't get to show it much. 
 
And when the X-men first formed he taught Colossus Judo.
#34 Posted by TDK_1997 (14446 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida: That is something new.

#35 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@TDK_1997: Very few casual Cyclops fans are aware, since he's usually relegated to long range/tactical roles. He has actually beaten Wolverine in hand to hand once by utilizing throws to counter Logan's strikes (to be fair, Logan was much less skilled back then). He's beaten six men with his eyes closed before. He also has some fairly impressive swordsmanship feats (the first time he used one was against Sebastian Shaw. He had literally never used one before and still managed to put up a decent fight against his more experienced opponent. Shaw even complimented him on his ingenuity).
#36 Posted by Daddy_Cool_Dude (310 posts) - - Show Bio

Not making pass round 2

#37 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Stops at 1.
#38 Posted by God_Spawn (37180 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida said:

@TDK_1997: Very few casual Cyclops fans are aware, since he's usually relegated to long range/tactical roles. He has actually beaten Wolverine in hand to hand once by utilizing throws to counter Logan's strikes (to be fair, Logan was much less skilled back then). He's beaten six men with his eyes closed before. He also has some fairly impressive swordsmanship feats (the first time he used one was against Sebastian Shaw. He had literally never used one before and still managed to put up a decent fight against his more experienced opponent. Shaw even complimented him on his ingenuity).

I thought it was common knowledge? Then again, I can't call myself a casual fan anyways.

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#39 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (9892 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Sherlock said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

@Rickbarry said:

Kitty Pryde=Ninja. Cyclops dies.

I think Kitty falls into the same boat as Cyclops when it comes to h2h. I think he would likely beat her.

For this battle I thin khe loses at round 1.

Kitty is one of the better Xmen when it comes to H2H actually

Scott isnt stupid he sees his list of opponents and books it

I agree to an extent but from what I have seen, Kitty is skilled based on descriptions in a handbook. She, like Cyclops, lacks the showings on panel to really show where she falls in h2h skill. I haven't seen Kitty fighting any trained fighters in h2h, at least not without relying on her phasing, to state she would be better than Scott.

Agree on the topic of handbooks.Yes Kitty uses her phasing in a fight i mean why wouldnt she?One thing you can look and and say she is better is that she trains students in H2H.Scott doesnt

True but quite a few other X-Men who have skill in H2H, including Cyclops, have taught other X-Men (i.e. - Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, and Nightcrawler have taught h2h techniques to other X-Men). In addition to Colossus, Scott has also been giving training to Emma. What I meant about Kitty's phasing is that if she has to rely on her phasing in h2h combat vs her own prowess and skill, it's not as compelling a showing to support her being above others who can defeat competent fighters on skill alone (no powers needed to support them). I think the same applies to Scott to a degree.

#40 Edited by MisterWhisper (1800 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ferro Vida: That was against Mastermind not Sebastian Shaw.

Also, Scott's main gift in hand to hand is his tactical mind and strategy. He has beaten many people in hand to hand by using the environment and their own strengths and weaknesses against them more than out skilling them in straight martial skill.

If it was all one on one fights he could pull it out against all of them except Electra and Wonderwoman. Electra would be very hard, and he would lose 6 maybe 7 out of 10, against WW he would lose 9 out of 10 simply because she has that much more experience.

#41 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6136 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda Lol'd when I saw Elektra ... then noticed she was teamed up with another hand to hander that would decimate Scott in hand to hand all by her lonesome (and possibly even with the optics).

#42 Posted by Ferro Vida (34598 posts) - - Show Bio
@MisterWhisper said:

@Ferro Vida: That was against Mastermind not Sebastian Shaw.

Also, Scott's main gift in hand to hand is his tactical mind and strategy. He has beaten many people in hand to hand by using the environment and their own strengths and weaknesses against them more than out skilling them in straight martial skill.

If it was all one on one fights he could pull it out against all of them except Electra and Wonderwoman. Electra would be very hard, and he would lose 6 maybe 7 out of 10, against WW he would lose 9 out of 10 simply because she has that much more experience.

My mistake. 
 
I know. I was just pointing out that he does, in fact, have two black belts.