#1 Posted by E-MAN (187 posts) - - Show Bio

SO who wins this one.

#2 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron

#3 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

what cyborg? cyborg teen titans or cyborg superman

#4 Posted by E-MAN (187 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"what cyborg? cyborg teen titans or cyborg superman"

teen titans,but he isn't a teen anymore.

#5 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron.

He can do everything Cyborg can, has an army of robots, and I hate to play this card but, he's made of adamantium.

#6 Posted by E-MAN (187 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"Ultron. He can do everything Cyborg can, has an army of robots, and I hate to play this card but, he's made of adamantium."

Not all of Ultrons parts are adamantium. Johnny Storm beat him by going supernova,damaging his internal workings. Whose to say cyborg couldn't do the same.

#7 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7470 posts) - - Show Bio

E-MAN says:

"Satyrquaze says:
"Ultron. He can do everything Cyborg can, has an army of robots, and I hate to play this card but, he's made of adamantium."
Not all of Ultrons parts are adamantium. Johnny Storm beat him by going supernova,damaging his internal workings. Whose to say cyborg couldn't do the same."

he damage the things that were inside cyborg can't do that

#8 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

E-MAN says:

"Satyrquaze says:
"Ultron. He can do everything Cyborg can, has an army of robots, and I hate to play this card but, he's made of adamantium."
Not all of Ultrons parts are adamantium. Johnny Storm beat him by going supernova,damaging his internal workings. Whose to say cyborg couldn't do the same."

Every Ultron since Ultron-6 has been made of adamantium.

Cyborg get close to damaging Ultrons internal workings without first dealing with Ultron's Encephalo-ray. How does he?

#9 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"E-MAN says:
"Satyrquaze says:
"Ultron. He can do everything Cyborg can, has an army of robots, and I hate to play this card but, he's made of adamantium."
Not all of Ultrons parts are adamantium. Johnny Storm beat him by going supernova,damaging his internal workings. Whose to say cyborg couldn't do the same."
Every Ultron since Ultron-6 has been made of adamantium. Cyborg get close to damaging Ultrons internal workings without first dealing with Ultron's Encephalo-ray. How does he? "

Although the main body of Ultron was made of Adamantium, the elbow, neck and knee joints were made from a lesser alloy, to permit movement. It was not until Ultron incorperated the used of the molecular rearranger (or whatever the device was called) that allowed the adamantium to move/flow, did Ultron go fully adamantium.

This would be how a super hot flame produced by the Torch could damage this area of his body - not sure about his interal workings. In theory adamantium should be like any other metal - it conducts heat - it just does not melt after is 'sets'. It may a poor thermal conductivity, so that heat has to be applied for a long time to get it to heat up, but there are no clear indications of this.

#10 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

When I originally pointed out that Ultron was made of adamantium, I was simply pointing out that that he's made of a stronger material than Cyborg.

I am unaware of anyway for Cyborg to produce a nova-level flame, so the point is moot. Even so that was a much older iterration of Ultron's form and therefore (historically speaking) has since come up with defenses against such an attack (since he even engineered a defense against Scarlet Witch's Hex power).

Yes, many of Ultron's internal workings are not made of adamantium, they are made of titanium or secondary adamantium and the like. Cyborg still has no way to directly attack those inner workings without first getting passed Ultrons defenses (such as the Encephalo-ray or his tractor beam).

#11 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Cyborg still composed of that that super phalanx type material. The Omnitron or something?

#12 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"When I originally pointed out that Ultron was made of adamantium, I was simply pointing out that that he's made of a stronger material than Cyborg. I am unaware of anyway for Cyborg to produce a nova-level flame, so the point is moot. Even so that was a much older iterration of Ultron's form and therefore (historically speaking) has since come up with defenses against such an attack (since he even engineered a defense against Scarlet Witch's Hex power). Yes, many of Ultron's internal workings are not made of adamantium, they are made of titanium or secondary adamantium and the like. Cyborg still has no way to directly attack those inner workings without first getting passed Ultrons defenses (such as the Encephalo-ray or his tractor beam)."

Rightly said.

I am unaware of any weapon system that the current incarnation of Cyborg has that could do more than shine up Ultron's shell.

#13 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

The Omnitron.

#14 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

"Cyborg possesses cybernetic enhancements that provide superhuman strength, endurance and durability. Cyborg can also interface with computers. Cyborg also still controls the Omegadrome, which can morph into different shapes and constructs."

~from Titanstower.com

I looked through several bios for Cyborg and found no mention of the Omnitron.

#15 Posted by E-MAN (187 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultrons inter workings could be damaged with a powerful enough white sound blasts,maybe concetrated at Ultrons eyes,or down his mouth,he always seems to have it open.Vic could easily shatter his brain or destroy his power source,but he won't get many changes.

#16 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultron's body (in theory) is indestructable (as stated earlier by Satyrquaze) and so Cyborg wouldn't be able to damage it. Unless Ultron has lost the disintigration beam the battle might end before it even started. Also, Ultron is extremely strong and fast and can fly. The power behind his concussion beams is immense. I'm more than sure he'll just utterly destroy Cyborg. He had some of Marvel's most powerful beings running in fear of him. He was even eventually given an energy beam that not even Crusher Creel (Absorbing Man) can absorb. It ends with the death of Cyborg.

#17 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"*"Cyborg possesses cybernetic enhancements that provide superhuman strength, endurance and durability. Cyborg can also interface with computers. Cyborg also still controls the Omegadrome, which can morph into different shapes and constructs."* ~from Titanstower.com I looked through several bios for Cyborg and found no mention of the Omnitron. "

Thats what I meant, Omegadrome,lo siento.

#18 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"Satyrquaze says:
"*"Cyborg possesses cybernetic enhancements that provide superhuman strength, endurance and durability. Cyborg can also interface with computers. Cyborg also still controls the Omegadrome, which can morph into different shapes and constructs."* ~from Titanstower.com I looked through several bios for Cyborg and found no mention of the Omnitron. "
Thats what I meant, Omegadrome,lo siento."

It seems to have been quietly been written out of continuity... to my knowledge it hasn't come up in any issues since before Infinite Crisis.

#19 Posted by nightwing737 (990 posts) - - Show Bio

Intellect: I don't know

Strength: Ultron

Speed: Cyborg

Durability: I don't know

Power: I don't know

Combat: I don't know

Winner: I don't know