CV Most Powerful Hero Tourny Rd. 2 - Silver Surfer v. Martian Manhunter

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Poll CV Most Powerful Hero Tourny Rd. 2 - Silver Surfer v. Martian Manhunter (76 votes)

Silver Surfer (1) 67%
Martian Manhunter (2) 33%

Round 2

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Rules

- Both Characters are standard. Normal abilities are accessible.

- Victory by any means

- Pre-52 MMH

- Location: New York City

- No prep time

- They see each other

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#51 frozen  Moderator

@nighthunder: That's the same storyline in which Surfer is mind-controlled too IIRC.

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@sacredweapons said:

@nighthunder said:

@lvenger: Moondragon with the mind gem is at-least on MMH's level from what I've heard. Of course I don't have the sufficient knowledge on moondragon or MMH, however, considering they she was able to knock out Pro.X, I doubt MMH's first assault will be enough to put Surfer down.

She is not on MMH level but maybe substantially lower. We are talking about the guy who walked into hal jordan spectres mind with no effort than grabbed everyother member of the justice leauge and put them through a mental hell. And made the spirit of vengance feel ashamed.

Being on a high status or being on the justice league or even having a immense level of power does not grant resistance to telepathy. Moondragon regularly may not be on MMH's level, but with the mind gem she's atleast on par.

The high status and justice leauge part i can understand. But the fact that he mind controlled Spectre one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse is something. Spectre himself could probably take Galactus so im pretty sure someone who can walk into Spectre's mind uninvited can mind control the herald of Galactus.

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#53  Edited By frozen  Moderator

J'onn wins.

I expect Surfer to win the poll based on popularity though.

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@frozen said:

@nighthunder: That's the same storyline in which Surfer is mind-controlled too IIRC.

By who..?

@nighthunder said:

@sacredweapons said:

@nighthunder said:

@lvenger: Moondragon with the mind gem is at-least on MMH's level from what I've heard. Of course I don't have the sufficient knowledge on moondragon or MMH, however, considering they she was able to knock out Pro.X, I doubt MMH's first assault will be enough to put Surfer down.

She is not on MMH level but maybe substantially lower. We are talking about the guy who walked into hal jordan spectres mind with no effort than grabbed everyother member of the justice leauge and put them through a mental hell. And made the spirit of vengance feel ashamed.

Being on a high status or being on the justice league or even having a immense level of power does not grant resistance to telepathy. Moondragon regularly may not be on MMH's level, but with the mind gem she's atleast on par.

The high status and justice leauge part i can understand. But the fact that he mind controlled Spectre one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse is something. Spectre himself could probably take Galactus so im pretty sure someone who can walk into Spectre's mind uninvited can mind control the herald of Galactus.

Has spectre demonstrated telepathy resistance

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@nighthunder: In regards to the first one, Moondragon's TP works in a different way to J'onn's. If someone can question what Moondragon is asking them to do, then they can resist the effects of Moondragon's TP I believe. In contrast, MMH can flat out mind whammy anyone, even those who don't want to do what he says. And who are the beings in the second scan?

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@lvenger: what makes you think that telepathy works differently for these characters? That's pure conjecture

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@lvenger: what makes you think that telepathy works differently for these characters? That's pure conjecture

No it's not conjecture at all. Moondragon's telepathy has been EXPLICITLY stated on several occasions to only work on mind controlling her targets if they continue to agree with her suggestions. Once they break the illusion, she loses control over them. In contrast, MMH can mind control and mind wipe anyone he pleases, even if they don't want to be telepathically probed by him. He's done it countless times before and in any case more times than Moondragon has. Hence, this counts as evidence to me that MMH's TP could take Surfer down. Having said this, without TP, Surfer would win a majority.