Current Spider-Man vs Ultimate Red Skull

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#1  Edited By Power NeXus

Spider-Man does not have his web shooters. 
Ult Red Skull is unarmed. 
 Morals are on. Both combatants are in character.
All Spider-Man knows is that Red Skull is Captain America's worst enemy. Nothing else
All Red Skull knows is that Spider-Man is a hero held in high regards by Captain America. Nothing else. 
Combatants start on opposite sides of the island used in k4tzm4n's Marvel tournament (I think it might be Alcatraz Island) 
Victory is achieved by death, ko, or incapacitation. If a combatant is knocked into the water, it will NOT count as a BFR. 
 
 
If this battle is horribly one-sided either way, please tell me. I am making it because I currently have a very poor grasp on Ult Red Skull's capabilities. All I really know about him is that he is 'superior to Ult Captain America'.
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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Cool fight.
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#3  Edited By spidey 15
@Power NeXus said:
"Spider-Man does not have his web shooters. Ult Red Skull is unarmed.  Morals are on. Both combatants are in character.All Spider-Man knows is that Red Skull is Captain America's worst enemy. Nothing elseAll Red Skull knows is that Spider-Man is a hero held in high regards by Captain America. Nothing else. Combatants start on opposite sides of the island used in k4tzm4n's Marvel tournament (I think it might be Alcatraz Island) Victory is achieved by death, ko, or incapacitation. If a combatant is knocked into the water, it will NOT count as a BFR.   If this battle is horribly one-sided either way, please tell me. I am making it because I currently have a very poor grasp on Ult Red Skull's capabilities. All I really know about him is that he is 'superior to Ult Captain America'. "

If he is superior to ult. cap that means Spidey is in trouble. But i know nothing about ult. Red skull and general i don't like ultimate universe. So i'm not sure who wins.....=[
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#4  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@spidey 15 said:
" @Power NeXus said:
"Spider-Man does not have his web shooters. Ult Red Skull is unarmed.  Morals are on. Both combatants are in character.All Spider-Man knows is that Red Skull is Captain America's worst enemy. Nothing elseAll Red Skull knows is that Spider-Man is a hero held in high regards by Captain America. Nothing else. Combatants start on opposite sides of the island used in k4tzm4n's Marvel tournament (I think it might be Alcatraz Island) Victory is achieved by death, ko, or incapacitation. If a combatant is knocked into the water, it will NOT count as a BFR.   If this battle is horribly one-sided either way, please tell me. I am making it because I currently have a very poor grasp on Ult Red Skull's capabilities. All I really know about him is that he is 'superior to Ult Captain America'. "
If he is superior to ult. cap that means Spidey is in trouble. But i know nothing about ult. Red skull and general i don't like ultimate universe. So i'm not sure who wins.....=[ "
Spider-man > Ultimate Captain America.
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#5  Edited By Power NeXus
@spidey 15 said:
"@Power NeXus said:
"Spider-Man does not have his web shooters. Ult Red Skull is unarmed.  Morals are on. Both combatants are in character.All Spider-Man knows is that Red Skull is Captain America's worst enemy. Nothing elseAll Red Skull knows is that Spider-Man is a hero held in high regards by Captain America. Nothing else. Combatants start on opposite sides of the island used in k4tzm4n's Marvel tournament (I think it might be Alcatraz Island) Victory is achieved by death, ko, or incapacitation. If a combatant is knocked into the water, it will NOT count as a BFR.   If this battle is horribly one-sided either way, please tell me. I am making it because I currently have a very poor grasp on Ult Red Skull's capabilities. All I really know about him is that he is 'superior to Ult Captain America'. "
If he is superior to ult. cap that means Spidey is in trouble. But i know nothing about ult. Red skull and general i don't like ultimate universe. So i'm not sure who wins.....=[ "

Ult Red Skull is superior to Ult Cap. 
Spider-Man is superior to Ult Cap as well. 
I'm curious to see if Ult Red Skulls superior h2h and tactical training is enough to bridge any deficit there might still be between himself and current Spider-Man.
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#6  Edited By Yaujtapool

Interesting ....
 
Ultimate Red Skull is a real beast but i cant really debate this due to the huge lack of feats on Red Skulls side, perhaps if we were to give him some more time so that we could be more acquainted with him to that we can judge his exact level of skill and physical prowess .
 
Though i am pretty sure it is above that of Captain America , at least he is physically superior and more than likely has an equal amount of skill as him, this is taken from all that has been shown and said in the Ultimate Avengers so far.

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#7  Edited By spidey 15
@Power NeXus:
@Morpheus_:  
Oh...thanks. Maybe that means that their almost equal or Spidey could win due to the point that he outclasses him in speed, strength.....
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#8  Edited By texasdeathmatch  Online

Is Ultimate Red Skull the alien from the Ultimates? The naked dude that Hulk eats at the end? 
 

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#9  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
" Is Ultimate Red Skull the alien from the Ultimates? The naked dude that Hulk eats at the end? 
 
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No, it's this guy.
 

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#10  Edited By texasdeathmatch  Online
@Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read...
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#11  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read... "

Latest volume of Ultimates, by Mark Millar.
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#12  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Good enough fight that I actually clicked on the link. Might come back.

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#13  Edited By Yaujtapool
@k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" @Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read... "
Latest volume of Ultimates, by Mark Millar. "
Ultimate Avengers .
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#15  Edited By BattleHeiz

Red skull wins this one cause spidy couldn't beat captain america while registration and red skull is like all caps abilities on superhuman level

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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@BattleHeiz said:
"Red skull wins this one cause spidy couldn't beat captain america while registration and red skull is like all caps abilities on superhuman level"

*takes out pokeball* 
Morpheus_, I choose you! Counter with logic attack, now!
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#17  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@BattleHeiz said:
" Red skull wins this one cause spidy couldn't beat captain america while registration and red skull is like all caps abilities on superhuman level "
Different version of Captain America, and different Red Skull. Not to mention ABC logic fails, nearly every time.
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#18  Edited By Power NeXus


 

*takes out pokeball* 
Morpheus_, I choose you! Counter with logic attack, now!  

 
   

Different version of Captain America, and different Red Skull. Not to mention ABC logic fails, nearly every time.

 

It was super effective!

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#19  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Power NeXus said:
"


 

*takes out pokeball* 
Morpheus_, I choose you! Counter with logic attack, now!  

 
   

Different version of Captain America, and different Red Skull. Not to mention ABC logic fails, nearly every time.

 

It was super effective!

"
LOL. All these Pokemon references are rather nostalgic.
 
And I actually posted before seeing K4tz's post.
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#20  Edited By Yaujtapool
@Power NeXus said:
"


 

*takes out pokeball* 
Morpheus_, I choose you! Counter with logic attack, now!  

 
   

Different version of Captain America, and different Red Skull. Not to mention ABC logic fails, nearly every time.

 

It was super effective!

"
LMAO
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#21  Edited By texasdeathmatch  Online
@Yaujtapool said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" @Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read... "
Latest volume of Ultimates, by Mark Millar. "
Ultimate Avengers . "
Hm, must be new. Always thought the "Ultimates" were suppose to be the avengers. Running out of ideas, Millar?
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#22  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @Yaujtapool said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" @Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read... "
Latest volume of Ultimates, by Mark Millar. "
Ultimate Avengers . "
Hm, must be new. Always thought the "Ultimates" were suppose to be the avengers. Running out of ideas, Millar? "
Ultimate Avengers, and the Ultimates are two separate books now.
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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Morpheus_ said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" @Yaujtapool said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" @Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read... "
Latest volume of Ultimates, by Mark Millar. "
Ultimate Avengers . "
Hm, must be new. Always thought the "Ultimates" were suppose to be the avengers. Running out of ideas, Millar? "
Ultimate Avengers, and the Ultimates are two separate books now. "

Is Ultimates the thing Loeb is coming out with? I thought it had a different title?
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#24  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" Is Ultimates the thing Loeb is coming out with? I thought it had a different title? "
Yes. It's called "New Ultimates".
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#25  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" Is Ultimates the thing Loeb is coming out with? I thought it had a different title? "
Yes. It's called "New Ultimates". "

Lame...But it has T'Challa =)
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#26  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" Is Ultimates the thing Loeb is coming out with? I thought it had a different title? "
Yes. It's called "New Ultimates". "

Lame...But it has T'Challa =) "
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
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That wasn't the cover I got to see. Great, I'll pick it up now. : )
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#29  Edited By spidey 15

I'm bored... but hey nice cover!=]
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#30  Edited By Joeybagad0nutz

Spider-man. Don't think it's that hard of a fight for him.
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#31  Edited By naaaavinoslemor

Morals on? Red Skull.

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@texasdeathmatch said:

@Morpheus_: What issues is he in? Not in Ultimates or anything I've read...

Ultimates Avengers, Mark Millar

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@battleheiz: That's bs so stop lying Spiderman got the best of him before he got the iron suit and made cap retreat in their second encounter