CU Gladiator vs Superman Prime

Yes I would agree but only when his confidence is low or in doubt ,Gladiator in full confidence mode has not been measured and seems without limit . With the  uni-power ,it would be off the scale by any standard."

To add to that, "no known limit" means exactly that.  The limit is not know.  That does not then mean that his strength is limitless.  Thor actually has an unknown limit to his strength as do a lot of the Marvel class 100 characters.  This does not mean that there is no limit to their strength, just that the limit is not know.  So to determine whether they are as strong as a SMP, one would need to compare their feats.  Gladiator has not had as much of an opportunity to shine in the spotlight that SMP and the character he is most compared to, Pre-Crisis Superman, have had but in his appearances Gladiator has not demonstrated the power levels that SMP has.  Increasing his strength 50 times could very well put him above the current Superman, in terms of displayed strength, but that would be far from SMP.

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Uni Gladiator wins his durability would be evn greater than Primes.

And the question is who have you ever seen any body that had the uni power (spidey, daredevil, Hulk, ) lose a battle. No one

"And the question is who have you ever seen any body that had the uni power (spidey, daredevil, Hulk, ) lose a battle. No one"

"Uni Gladiator wins his durability would be evn greater than Primes."

Then bear in mind that SMP can engage beings of his strength level in combat so his durability is sufficient to allow him to withstand blows from similar strength beings.

Ok creator .Your saying the Baxter Building is 100 tons?

"Ok creator .Your saying the Baxter Building is 100 tons?"

"The Baxter Building is like 200,000 tons right ?
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The Baxter Building weighs somewhere between 60,000 – 100,000 tons.

Ok how many stories is the baxter building? 35 floors? 60,000 lbs might be just one floor.

"Ok how many stories is the baxter building?"

Honestly Superman Prime is pretty dumb in my opinion but just based off of feats I sadly have to give it to him. Although I am not sure how you came to your conclusion on how much strength it would take to move the Earth. Im not arguing...just curious how you came ot that #.

"Ok how many stories is the baxter building? 35 floors? 60,000 lbs might be just one floor."

"Ball Buster said:

"Ok how many stories is the baxter building? 35 floors? 60,000 lbs might be just one floor."

LOL

Let's say each floor does weigh 60000 pounds (they weigh more).

If the Baxter Building has 35 stories, it would end up only weighing 1050 tons."

"One-Above-All said:

"Ball Buster said:

"Ok how many stories is the baxter building? 35 floors? 60,000 lbs might be just one floor."

LOL

Let's say each floor does weigh 60000 pounds (they weigh more).

If the Baxter Building has 35 stories, it would end up only weighing 1050 tons."

Dude.What are talking about.You lost me."

60000 x 35= 2,100,000 tons."

Im sorry 60000 tons not lbs.I lost myself.

One floor Steel alloy and poured concrete with other high tech devises .It would be conservative at 60000 tons per floor.As for creators statement that Gladiator look like he was straining ,I didn't think that at all.He just looked pissed.

The Empire State Building weighs 365000 tons and is 102 stories high.

Are you saying 6 floors of the Baxter Building weigh about as much as the Empire State building?

I have not  been able to verify the Baxter Building weight anywhere. From what Ive read, i suppose BB to more rigid than pretty much any building in New York in MU,but ill look at what your saying.

Not saying your wrong, but I got the info of the Baxter Building weighing 60000 - 100000 tons from The_Creator and he's usually right about these things.

Yeah he is right.What the hell was i thinking.

I've been working too much.

The Uni-Power multiplies the users powers by 50, right? Then CU Gladiator should be able to lift over 5,000,000 tons. Superman Prime is still stronger.

ANYWAYS ...honestly Superman Prime is overpowered...we all know this...Gladiator lost to Vulcan b4...just throwing that out there...I know I know gladiator has Capt Universe power

"The Uni-Power multiplies the users powers by 50, right? Then CU Gladiator should be able to lift over 5,000,000 tons."

Prime wins.

"One-Above-All said:

"The Uni-Power multiplies the users powers by 50, right? Then CU Gladiator should be able to lift over 5,000,000 tons."

I dont know.Spider man punched the Hulk into orbit.At the time spidermans strength was 10 tons max.You can do math on this one im too tired.been up for 3 days. but at i for SM would be 500000 ton,Man, Im going to sleep."

Not really. Even when he has been brimming with confidence he has struggled with some strength feats.
He showed signs of straining when lifting the original Baxter Building (the strain was shown clearly on his face).
That building would be approximately 100000 tonnes. He did not get to lift the entire building as has been pointed out many times.
I do think that Gladiator's baseline strength (with high confidence) is higher than this and I would personally put him around the 150000 tonne mark.
This figure lies far beyond 100 tonnes and so according to Marvel would suggest incalcuble strength.
It is only incalcuble if Marvel don't bother to get off their a$$ and do the calculations based on his strength feats.

The 150000 tonne figure ties in with eclipsing some of the standard strength feats shown by classic Thor, whom I think is slightly weaker than Gladiator.

Now if the Uni Power augments the uses strength by around 50 times, this would mean that Capt Uni Gladiator has a strength of 50 x 150000 = 7500000 tonnes.
A big number to be sure.

However SMP pushes Earth sized planets around. That's represented by a strength figure of 5,980,000,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

Even if Capt Uni Gladiator is a 1000 times stronger than my estimate, he is nowhere near that of SMP.

Then bear in mind that SMP can engage beings of his strength level in combat so his durability is sufficient to allow him to withstand blows from similar strength beings.

The Creator has proven Prime wins.I hope it stays like this.

"Ball Buster said:

"One-Above-All said:

"The Uni-Power multiplies the users powers by 50, right? Then CU Gladiator should be able to lift over 5,000,000 tons."

I dont know.Spider man punched the Hulk into orbit.At the time spidermans strength was 10 tons max.You can do math on this one im too tired.been up for 3 days. but at i for SM would be 500000 ton,Man, Im going to sleep."

The Creator said:

Not really. Even when he has been brimming with confidence he has struggled with some strength feats.
He showed signs of straining when lifting the original Baxter Building (the strain was shown clearly on his face).
That building would be approximately 100000 tonnes. He did not get to lift the entire building as has been pointed out many times.
I do think that Gladiator's baseline strength (with high confidence) is higher than this and I would personally put him around the 150000 tonne mark.
This figure lies far beyond 100 tonnes and so according to Marvel would suggest incalcuble strength.
It is only incalcuble if Marvel don't bother to get off their a$$ and do the calculations based on his strength feats.

The 150000 tonne figure ties in with eclipsing some of the standard strength feats shown by classic Thor, whom I think is slightly weaker than Gladiator.

Now if the Uni Power augments the uses strength by around 50 times, this would mean that Capt Uni Gladiator has a strength of 50 x 150000 = 7500000 tonnes.
A big number to be sure.

However SMP pushes Earth sized planets around. That's represented by a strength figure of 5,980,000,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

Even if Capt Uni Gladiator is a 1000 times stronger than my estimate, he is nowhere near that of SMP.

Then bear in mind that SMP can engage beings of his strength level in combat so his durability is sufficient to allow him to withstand blows from similar strength beings.

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"Ball Buster said:

Yes I would agree but only when his confidence is low or in doubt ,Gladiator in full confidence mode has not been measured and seems without limit . With the  uni-power ,it would be off the scale by any standard."

Not really. Even when he has been brimming with confidence he has struggled with some strength feats.
He showed signs of straining when lifting the original Baxter Building (the strain was shown clearly on his face).
That building would be approximately 100,000 tonnes. He did not get to lift the entire building as has been pointed out many times.
I do think that Gladiator's baseline strength (with high confidence) is higher than this and I would personally put him around the 150,000 tonne mark.
This figure lies far beyond 100 tonnes and so according to Marvel would suggest incalcuble strength.
It is only incalcuble if Marvel don't bother to get off their a$$ and do the calculations based on his strength feats.

The 150,000 tonne figure ties in with eclipsing some of the standard strength feats shown by classic Thor, whom I think is slightly weaker than Gladiator.

Now if the Uni Power augments the uses strength by around 50 times, this would mean that Capt Uni Gladiator has a strength of 50 x 150,000 = 7,500,000 tonnes.
A big number to be sure.

However SMP pushes Earth sized planets around. That's represented by a strength figure of 5,980,000,000,000,000,000,000 tonnes.

Even if Capt Uni Gladiator is a 1000 times stronger than my estimate, he is nowhere near that of SMP.

Then bear in mind that SMP can engage beings of his strength level in combat so his durability is sufficient to allow him to withstand blows from similar strength beings.

Forever said:

To add to that, "no known limit" means exactly that.  The limit is not know.  That does not then mean that his strength is limitless.  Thor actually has an unknown limit to his strength as do a lot of the Marvel class 100 characters.  This does not mean that there is no limit to their strength, just that the limit is not know.  So to determine whether they are as strong as a SMP, one would need to compare their feats.  Gladiator has not had as much of an opportunity to shine in the spotlight that SMP and the character he is most compared to, Pre-Crisis Superman, have had but in his appearances Gladiator has not demonstrated the power levels that SMP has.  Increasing his strength 50 times could very well put him above the current Superman, in terms of displayed strength, but that would be far from SMP.

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That sounds pretty reasonable.
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CU Gladiator

when gladitr can punch through the phantom zone and retetcon someone talk to me prime FTW

You don't need to explain yourself when you say "Superman Wins" in the comic vine. He just does.

@Static Shock: you said he cud only absorb sunlight it has everything to do with you point. Plot device or not he still did it and its canon

GLADIATOR STOMPS

This is laughable. Gladiator all day every day. Even without the uni power, at full confidence he takes prime. he's just too fast. he speed blitzes prime before prime can even react. now prime can speed blitz too, but gladiator is FTL in speed and reflexes, prime isn't. kallark approaches silver surfer/flash levels in this regard.

with the uni power on top... he takes prime quite easily.

Edit: I've noticed someone bringing up Gladiators Baxter Building feat. That was what? Decades ago. Kallark has had power ups since then.

Prime takes this

How? Prime can't land a single punch on Gladiator. Kallark has FASTER THAN LIGHT reaction times. Prime doesn't even approach that level. He's so far off FTL reaction times it's not even on the horizon.

This Battle is old and tricky . CPT universe Gladiator should be powerful. STill prime is no Joke with his Stupid power Level.

@czarny_samael: Lol at your post.