Crossbones vs Predator

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#1  Edited By ComicStooge
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Predator = starts at red

Crossbones = starts at blue

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- Morals on (the Predator will fight with honor)

- The Predator is question is a skilled, generic Predator with a decent amount of trophies

- Generic Predator feats to establish skill and stats are acceptable (no particularly standout Preds like Smiley)

- Both have basic knowledge (Rumlow knows about the Predators cloaking and affinity for blades weaponry etc, while the Yautja knows Brock is a hardened soldier)

- Predator has standard armor for a Predator (bio-mask, wrist blades etc), shuriken (not smart disk) and combi stick

- No plasma caster

- Brock is armed with assault rifle, collapsible crossbow, a pistol and throwing knives

- Fight to the death

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I either see this ending like his fight with Logan, but a stalemate, or Predator. Cloaking tech is just an issue I'm not sure Brock can counter.

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But Crossbones killed Cap :P

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#7  Edited By ComicStooge

I either see this ending like his fight with Logan, but a stalemate, or Predator. Cloaking tech is just an issue I'm not sure Brock can counter.

His senses are quite keen, by his own admission:

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Dutch and Harrigan both noticed the Predator, when it was cloaked. I think Rumlow should also be able to.

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@keenko: I was being sarcastic as some people like to use that as a feat. He shot Cap in the back IIRC.

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I LOVE CROSSBONE...most of Cap's rogues

Predator, all the movie loses come at underestimating his prey, they set up traps but never once say "these humans are they f*cking adapting?'. they just blow themselves up.

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@comicstooge: I don't really care what he says of his own admission without something really backing it up. Did something happen after to actually back it up? And I'll have to re-watch the predator fights. Maybe I am putting too much in the cloaking tech, my memory of the movies is kind of hazy.

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I will be willing to make a good case for Predator, if someone makes a good case for Crossbones!

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Cloaking tech seems to only make Predator harder to spot. Dutch noticed him when he had somewhat of an idea where to look in the tree if memory serves (been awhile since I watched Predator). Crossbone's sense are better than that.

Anyway, winner is whoever is better on a skateboard. Them X-Games!

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I think the fact Brock knows what to look for as for cloaking, the Predator doesn't have the plasma caster and that Brock also has a decent assortment of weapons, should give him a decent fighting chance. This is a meh level Yautja, not an elite. Hell one of the Super Yautja died to the Yakuza dude in Predators. Brock fights Captain America.

If I had money on it, I'm rolling with Crossbones.

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#14  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@comicstooge: And what issue of Deadpool is that? I'm behind on it.

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#15  Edited By nick_hero22

I think the fact Brock knows what to look for as for cloaking, the Predator doesn't have the plasma caster and that Brock also has a decent assortment of weapons, should give him a decent fighting chance. This is a meh level Yautja, not an elite. Hell one of the Super Yautja died to the Yakuza dude in Predators. Brock fights Captain America.

If I had money on it, I'm rolling with Crossbones.

Crossbones might know what to look for in terms of cloaking, but he wouldn't know how the Predator maneuvers around when hunting which will make it a harder target to spot; and the Predator would most likely be at its most stealthiest since he knows that Crossbones is a skilled opponent. Most of Brock firearms would futile against the Predator's plate armor covering certain regions of its body and the Predator has shown natural resilience to firearms when shot in exposed regions. The Predator is also fast enough to dodge bullets as well, so I don't see Crossbones gear being a big factor when 1) The Predator is cloaked meaning that he is more difficult to spot 2) The Predator is fast enough to dodge and evade gunfire from automatic weapons 3) Even if the Predator is shot, it won't slow it down or impede on its combat performance much since they are highly resilient to munitions. The OP stated that this is your average Predator who is a blooded hunter, and they aren't really "MEH" when you actually look at there feats. Super Predators aren't the same as the regular Predators, so I don't see how that is relevant here, especially when the Super Predators are extremely mediocre in comparison.

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@nick_hero22: I call a blooded Yautja meh because compared to elites, they sorta are. Crossbones would be like Dutch but even better. I know Dutch faced an unblooded, so I won't say that gives Rumlow a definite win, but based on some other showings, I have faith.

I do have a question for you. The Yakuza killed a super predator with a sword slash. Bullets should do as much damage if they manage to hit I'd think. Is that scene from Predators inconsistent to the rest of the franchise in your opinion?

I have read some stuff, but I won't say I'm far and above an expert. Thus far I'm going to put my money on Brock, but I wouldn't mind seeing some feats and being swayed if you got the inclination.

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@nick_hero22: I call a blooded Yautja meh because compared to elites, they sorta are. Crossbones would be like Dutch but even better. I know Dutch faced an unblooded, so I won't say that gives Rumlow a definite win, but based on some other showings, I have faith.

I do have a question for you. The Yakuza killed a super predator with a sword slash. Bullets should do as much damage if they manage to hit I'd think. Is that scene from Predators inconsistent to the rest of the franchise in your opinion?

I have read some stuff, but I won't say I'm far and above an expert. Thus far I'm going to put my money on Brock, but I wouldn't mind seeing some feats and being swayed if you got the inclination.

Unblooded Predators have very good showings in the comics and novels, so using the instance where Dutch defeated one in a circumstantial fight laced with WIS and CIS (mud somehow blocking Infrared) isn't very compelling.

I have already stated that the Super Predators aren't really the same as the regular Predators, so I don't understand why you keep comparing the two. In the movie Predator 2, the Predator got shot several times in the abdomen with a shotgun and got back up just fine, so like I said before the Predator is highly resilient to munitions especially if you look at there comic book and novel showings such as tanking a direct hit from a RPG and etc.

What feats would you like to see?

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@comicstooge: Thanks, bro. I sense a comic binge day in the near future.

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#20  Edited By ComicStooge

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@comicstooge: I don't really care what he says of his own admission without something really backing it up. Did something happen after to actually back it up? And I'll have to re-watch the predator fights. Maybe I am putting too much in the cloaking tech, my memory of the movies is kind of hazy.

Well, he got trampled by a horse right after that, so...uhh, points for guessing it was a horse?

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@nick_hero22: Eh, anything high end you think is worth showing. Ive only read one prose novel (something to do with a park ranger in a national forest), seen all the movies and have seen a handful of comics.

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@nick_hero22: Eh, anything high end you think is worth showing. Ive only read one prose novel (something to do with a park ranger in a national forest), seen all the movies and have seen a handful of comics.

I will post some tomorrow since it's pretty late.

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@comicstooge: I don't really care what he says of his own admission without something really backing it up. Did something happen after to actually back it up? And I'll have to re-watch the predator fights. Maybe I am putting too much in the cloaking tech, my memory of the movies is kind of hazy.

To be fair, Crossbones is kind of right, Deadpool comes out with a horse like Crossbones guessed he would.

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Going with pred for now, my opinion may change since I really haven't seen a lot of crossbones besides some of his h2h encounters.