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Crossbones. He's physically superior, has shown better combat feats and Bullseye's accuracy isn't that much greater than Crossbones to the point where it gives him that much of a significant advantage.
Crossbones has easily shot a tranquilizer into a crazed asgardian warrior's eardrum as she was attack his team. This is an incredible accurate shot for Crossbones to perform.
It comes down to H2H and Crossbones is just stronger and more skilled.
Bullseye didn't fare very well against Crossbones in their original match-up, but that was partially because he didn't know who he was, and it was in closed quarters, so his throwing abilities weren't at their maximum potential. I think at this distance, Bullseye may be able to take it, using his accuracy, and now having a better level of knowledge of his opponent. Crossbones is a pretty solid opponent though, and if it came to close quarters I think he would win. So I give Bullseye the majority, maybe 7/10.
Crossbones, He has already beaten him for one,, secondly, Crossbones has demonstrated several times that he is closely on par with a super soldier. Bullseye, while being one of the best marksman has to make sure he tags him because he will get crushed in h2h...I guess it comes down to shoots the other first
Crossbones. He's physically superior, has shown better combat feats and Bullseye's accuracy isn't that much greater than Crossbones to the point where it gives him that much of a significant advantage.
Crossbones has easily shot a tranquilizer into a crazed asgardian warrior's eardrum as she was attack his team. This is an incredible accurate shot for Crossbones to perform.
It comes down to H2H and Crossbones is just stronger and more skilled.
Bullseye still has WAY better aiming feats, and he's seems to pull off being a bullet timer quite easily.
Bullseye isn't stupid enough to aim directly at something someone is using for a shield he would use the wall for ricochet and Crossbones' back is wide open.
Crossbones. He's physically superior, has shown better combat feats and Bullseye's accuracy isn't that much greater than Crossbones to the point where it gives him that much of a significant advantage.
Crossbones has easily shot a tranquilizer into a crazed asgardian warrior's eardrum as she was attack his team. This is an incredible accurate shot for Crossbones to perform.
It comes down to H2H and Crossbones is just stronger and more skilled.
Bullseye still has WAY better aiming feats, and he's seems to pull off being a bullet timer quite easily.
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
Crossbones. He's physically superior, has shown better combat feats and Bullseye's accuracy isn't that much greater than Crossbones to the point where it gives him that much of a significant advantage.
Crossbones has easily shot a tranquilizer into a crazed asgardian warrior's eardrum as she was attack his team. This is an incredible accurate shot for Crossbones to perform.
It comes down to H2H and Crossbones is just stronger and more skilled.
Bullseye still has WAY better aiming feats, and he's seems to pull off being a bullet timer quite easily.
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
Bullseyes caught a thrown tagger device from spidey while he was looking in the opposite direction :) (and it was foggy from Smoke Grenades)
not arguing that crossbones doesnt win. he probably does in H2H. the distance is going to give him hell. but i'm arguing that no aiming, or projectile feats ive seen from crossbones puts him above or level with Bullseye. good, but not better :)
Bullseye isn't stupid enough to aim directly at something someone is using for a shield he would use the wall for ricochet and Crossbones' back is wide open.
my thoughts exactly... and are those scans really relevant? (not being rude) i mean the fight didn't finish. Bullseye left knowing his job was finished.
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
An axe is quite a large weapon to be throwing..don't you think? I would assume he heard it being thrown, it's not a weapon you can swing, much less throw without it making a sound.Crossbones might be superior h2h but Bullseye can turn ANYTHING into a weapon even the smallest of things and his accuracy is almost PIS.This guy killed a rat with what he picked out of his nose.
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
For Bullseye, I'd consider standard gear to be sais, assorted knives, and bladed throwing weapons (daggers, shurikens, etc). For Crossbones, kevlar vest, pistols, a submachine gun, wrist gauntlet containing the knife/crossbow.
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
What accuracy feats does Crossbones even have? I don't think he's done enough for anyone to say Bullseye is better, but not by much. Even if it comes to h2h I think in a tussle Bullseye still has the option of picking up things as seen in the fight that scans were posted of.
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
An axe is quite a large weapon to be throwing..don't you think? I would assume he heard it being thrown, it's not a weapon you can swing, much less throw without it making a sound.Crossbones might be superior h2h but Bullseye can turn ANYTHING into a weapon even the smallest of things and his accuracy is almost PIS.This guy killed a rat with what he picked out of his nose.
a nickel too. LOL.
Slit Deadpool's throat with a straw. i never thought of it before. his aim is almost PIS
Bullseye isn't stupid enough to aim directly at something someone is using for a shield he would use the wall for ricochet and Crossbones' back is wide open.
my thoughts exactly... and are those scans really relevant? (not being rude) i mean the fight didn't finish. Bullseye left knowing his job was finished.
It was actually Crossbones that performed a richochete with that table in those scans. I don't think he could have thrown his sais and richochetted them because there's a lot of walls in there that look like dry wall which stuff doesn't richochette off of that well.
@Vance Astro said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
An axe is quite a large weapon to be throwing..don't you think? I would assume he heard it being thrown, it's not a weapon you can swing, much less throw without it making a sound.Crossbones might be superior h2h but Bullseye can turn ANYTHING into a weapon even the smallest of things and his accuracy is almost PIS.This guy killed a rat with what he picked out of his nose.
I do remember the nose picking, and it was quite funny when he said "Bullseye" haha. The Axe was a small axe no larger than a forearm. k4tzm4n actually made a great respect thread for Crossbones on the comic ledger if you would like to check it out. Crossbones also has good durability, I can't remember if he kicked Bucky out the window with the leg he was stabbed in with but he can perform while being stabbed pretty well.
Bullseye isn't stupid enough to aim directly at something someone is using for a shield he would use the wall for ricochet and Crossbones' back is wide open.
my thoughts exactly... and are those scans really relevant? (not being rude) i mean the fight didn't finish. Bullseye left knowing his job was finished.
It was actually Crossbones that performed a richochete with that table in those scans. I don't think he could have thrown his sais and richochetted them because there's a lot of walls in there that look like dry wall which stuff doesn't richochette off of that well.
@Vance Astro said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Someone threw an axe at crossbones head while he was drinking a beer and had his eyes closed. He caught the axe by the handle before it hit his head, continued to drink his beer with his eyes closed.
Crossbones is going to win. I know Bullseye has better aiming feats, but to a point where it's going to matter he does not while Crossbones is superior in H2H and strength gauging from how they have performed against Captain America, Dare Devil and against each other.
An axe is quite a large weapon to be throwing..don't you think? I would assume he heard it being thrown, it's not a weapon you can swing, much less throw without it making a sound.Crossbones might be superior h2h but Bullseye can turn ANYTHING into a weapon even the smallest of things and his accuracy is almost PIS.This guy killed a rat with what he picked out of his nose.
I do remember the nose picking, and it was quite funny when he said "Bullseye" haha. The Axe was a small axe no larger than a forearm. k4tzm4n actually made a great respect thread for Crossbones on the comic ledger if you would like to check it out. Crossbones also has good durability, I can't remember if he kicked Bucky out the window with the leg he was stabbed in with but he can perform while being stabbed pretty well.
? i dont remember him being kicked out the window... you talking about afte Cap was shot right?
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
What accuracy feats does Crossbones even have? I don't think he's done enough for anyone to say Bullseye is better, but not by much. Even if it comes to h2h I think in a tussle Bullseye still has the option of picking up things as seen in the fight that scans were posted of.
Besides the stuff I've seen @k4tzm4n:, there is the Thunderbolts issue where the Thunderbolts are trying to capture a loose crazed Asgardian female. because her durability was too high for Crossbones tranquilizers to hit, he shot her in the eardrum while she was thrashing about. I really want to find this scan for @k4tzm4n: collection but I'm at work. Will have to find it when I'm off later today.
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
What accuracy feats does Crossbones even have? I don't think he's done enough for anyone to say Bullseye is better, but not by much. Even if it comes to h2h I think in a tussle Bullseye still has the option of picking up things as seen in the fight that scans were posted of.
He has nothing as impressive as Bullseye's long resume of trick shots. However, Crossbones is an accurate fellow. I'd say his standout feat was tagging a mid-leap Troll in the ear with a dart.
I do remember the nose picking, and it was quite funny when he said "Bullseye" haha. The Axe was a small axe no larger than a forearm. k4tzm4n actually made a great respect thread for Crossbones on the comic ledger if you would like to check it out. Crossbones also has good durability, I can't remember if he kicked Bucky out the window with the leg he was stabbed in with but he can perform while being stabbed pretty well.
1.That's still a large weapon.Depending on how you throw it some knives are even too big for them to be thrown without the opponent hearing it. 2.I saw K4tzm4n's thread.I would wager that several characters I wouldn't put on Bullseye's level of accuracy have better accuracy feats than Crossbones. 3.He flipped Bucky with his leg that he was stabbed in but quite honestly I think even a regular person who was knowledgeable in how to flip someone could pull that off.Getting stabbed in the thigh where the flesh is thick isn't the same as getting stabbed in the chest or the neck or the back...
@k4tzm4n: Was it a troll? My bad. I haven't seen you post that scan. Do you have it? I'm not going to say he's as good as Bullseye, but how accurate does one have to be besides just not missing a target?
All I'm saying is that Bullseye's projectile abilities aren't going to give him taht much more of an advantage over someone that is also a great marksman, but superior in H2H, physically and durability.
Just so others can see what they're discussing, here are the links in the respect thread. I have no doubt in my mind that Bullseye is more accurate, but I'd rank Brock as highly trained in terms of marksmanship, probably on the same level as Frank Castle, imho.
@SlimJ87D: Also, don't forget there's the scan of Crossbones catching a throwing knife in front of his face! ;)
? i dont remember him being kicked out the window... you talking about afte Cap was shot right?
Bucky\Cap fought the Serpent Society,Sin,& Crossbones at the same time it ended with Crossbones flipping Cap out of a window, he landed on Black Widow's vehicle and when Crossbones looked out the window to see if Bucky was dead he shot 3 times in the chest.
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
What accuracy feats does Crossbones even have? I don't think he's done enough for anyone to say Bullseye is better, but not by much. Even if it comes to h2h I think in a tussle Bullseye still has the option of picking up things as seen in the fight that scans were posted of.
He has nothing as impressive as Bullseye's long resume of trick shots. However, Crossbones is an accurate fellow. I'd say his standout feat was tagging a mid-leap Troll in the ear with a dart.
I'm sure Brock is accurate. I'm not denying that but Bullseye has done some ridiculous stuff.
@nickthedevil: Yeah I'm not saying he's better, Bullseye is better at projectiles than Crossbones, but not by much for it to make a huge difference. Bullseye would have to be marginally better than Crossbones at firing projectiles for it to give him the majority which he is arguably not. Crossbones ability to fire back is good enough to scare Bullseye, it'll come to H2H, and in the 4 or 3 cases it does not, Crossbones wins it 6 or 7 out of 10 in my book.
What accuracy feats does Crossbones even have? I don't think he's done enough for anyone to say Bullseye is better, but not by much. Even if it comes to h2h I think in a tussle Bullseye still has the option of picking up things as seen in the fight that scans were posted of.
He has nothing as impressive as Bullseye's long resume of trick shots. However, Crossbones is an accurate fellow. I'd say his standout feat was tagging a mid-leap Troll in the ear with a dart.
I'm sure Brock is accurate. I'm not denying that but Bullseye has done some ridiculous stuff.
For sure. No argument there. Just thought I'd provide my input.
@SlimJ87D: No worries, man. I have the scans right here ;)
Accuracy with assault rifles (apologies for poor cropping).
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