Creed (God_Spawn) vs Wesker (Nickzambuto)

Location

Creed starts on far left, Wesker starts on far right.

Equipment

Wesker: Samurai Edge, Sunglasses.

Creed: Kotetsu hilt. Breath of God nanomachines (induce healing factor.)

Rules

In character

Win via KO/Death/Incapacitation.

Opening argument

Creed cuts Wesker in half.

Counter

Wesker dodges.

@nickzambuto: Creed is a guy.

Anyways, sure.

Basic post and explanation of Creed's sword. He channels his chi or ki, depending on translation, through the hilt of his kotetsu. This allows Creed to form an invisible blade.

The blade is quite sharp.

The blade itself is sharp enough to cut through statues and helicopters. He effortlessly does these feats, he is gonna be able to cut through Wesker and not to mention any machines here.

The blade is sharp enough to cut through cell tissues without damaging them.

Creed can deflect and dodge bullets from a vastly faster and superior marksman than anyone in resident evil. The guy with his arm lopped off. I'll post feats for him later though to back this up. Arm cut off guy's speed is comparable to Wesker's as are a few other characters in the series. One guy was able to burst speed a bullet dodger before she realized what happened. And Creed has also done similar feats to that and has kept up with people that move that fast. He can go even faster but something for later saved.

Scan1 deflecting bullets.

2-3, dodging bullets from now reattached arm guy.

4. deflects more bullets.

Wesker's Samurai Edge won't help him here. Creed dodges shots from a far better marksman with comparable speed to Wesker himself and Creed's imagine blade is sharp enough to cut through him. Creed senselessly kills people in the series unless your the guy whose arm he cut off so he isn't one to really toy around. He has no use for Wesker and doesn't even know him so I'd expect him to just cut him in half. Not to mention the sword isn't visible unless he wants you to see.

Note: The guy Creed is fighting, his gun is rapid fire by simply holding down the trigger.

@god_spawn

As quick, powerful, and undoubtedly skilled as Creed is, Wesker would beat him. Cutting through stone and metal makes his chi sword far sharper than any normal blade, but not sharp enough to do any serious damage to Wesker, who eats RPGs like candy and walks off 20 tons of steel beams falling onto his head from several stories up. If a helicopter were hit with a single RPG, it'd be destroyed. If it was hit with 20 tons of steel beams, it'd be crushed. Simply put, Wesker's skin>helicopter, and even though the sword also cut clean through cell tissue without damaging it, I don't see the blade as doing much more other than getting stuck inside Wesker's body. And considering how powerful the virologists healing factor is, that damage won't hinder him for long.

If Creed hopes to beat Wesker, he'll literally need to start hacking at him. Overcoming the man's durability is hard enough alone, but with that incredible regen, it's nearly impossible.

Conversely, Wesker's potential damage output, compared to Creed, is immense. At 1/3 of his full power, Wesker easily punched through solid steel one-handed. At 100%, he's far surpasses the 10 ton range, just to give you an idea of where he stands.

How much damage can Creed take before succumbing? Because in combination with his immense strength and speed, Wesker can turn normal humans into jellow in seconds if he wished.

Deflecting bullets is a good showing of speed, but if that's all you got, Wesker is still faster. Far too often do people bring up his tele-blitzing and just leave it at that. What I've never seen anyone bring up, is just who it is he's blitzing.

Chris Redfield, being a peak human military prodigy, can't even begin to react to Wesker. Chris easily weaves between Harrier Jet Chain Gun Rounds whilst simultaneously fighting off an army of monsters; by that, in order for Wesker to blitz him, he'd need to be moving his body at speeds far exceeding that of bullets.

For comparison, we have Leon Kennedy, who's perception is so advanced, he literally sees the world in slow motion when his blood gets pumping (displayed at several points in RE4)

Chris can match Leon move-for-move in their RE6 brawl (Leon could barely land a hit, whereas Chris managed to execute a supah-knee combo move) so logic states he's just as fast. But even through a slow-mo filter, Chris is easily decimated by Wesker's speed on several occasions.

Wesker isn't actually moving at teleporting-speeds in this fight. What we see, is just Chris and Co's perception of Wesker. In actuality, he moves even faster.

Creed can deflect and dodge bullets from a vastly faster and superior marksman than anyone in resident evil.

Highly doubtful. Chris Redfield has won awards for his marksmanship. He literally fights off entire armies at a time in RE6; when going up against dozens upon dozens of armed super monsters at a time, you can't afford to miss even a single shot. Considering Chris is alive by the end of RE6, I'd say he lived up to that.

One by one, the zombies reeled around the corner, groaning and stumbling. Chris took careful aim, breathing evenly, keeping his focus...

He squeezed the trigger, sending two bullets through the gangrenous nose of the first. Without pausing, he sent a third shot into the center of the next zombie's forhead. Fluid and soft matter sprayed the wall behind them as the bullets slapped into the wood. Even as they crumpled to the floor, he'd found his mark on the third creature. Two more muted explosions an the zombie's brow caved inward, dropping it like the bag of bones that it was.

Chris has certain feats that Punisher would nod his brow at. I seriously doubt arm-cut-off-guy is in his league, unless you show me some damn good feats.

Man, I was so hoping it was gonna be Victor Creed vs. Wesker.

@VeganDiet said:

Man, I was so hoping it was gonna be Victor Creed vs. Wesker.

Sabretooth might be a bit out of Wesker's league, to be honest.

@nickzambuto:

As quick, powerful, and undoubtedly skilled as Creed is, Wesker would beat him. Cutting through stone and metal makes his chi sword far sharper than any normal blade, but not sharp enough to do any serious damage to Wesker, who eats RPGs like candy and walks off 20 tons of steel beams falling onto his head from several stories up. If a helicopter were hit with a single RPG, it'd be destroyed. If it was hit with 20 tons of steel beams, it'd be crushed. Simply put, Wesker's skin>helicopter, and even though the sword also cut clean through cell tissue without damaging it, I don't see the blade as doing much more other than getting stuck inside Wesker's body. And considering how powerful the virologists healing factor is, that damage won't hinder him for long.

These feats are actually irrelevant. These are all blunt force and concussive trauma for the most part. Wesker has a solid blunt trauma force trauma but his body can be pierced. One type of resistance does not add to the other unless they actually show. Spider-Man and Wolverine can soak blows from class 50 and up but Spider-Man has been stabbed, pierced by bullets and so has Logan. Their damage soak is better at blunt force than stabbing piercing. Wonder Woman is similar, she can tank hits from Superman level beings but swords and stuff can pierce her. What Wesker makes up for it is his healing factor and it can heal him from some severe wounds but the sword isn't just gonna stop once it sticks him. Those feats would only be relevant to Creed if he didn't have a sword.

As for Creed's own durability and pain tolerance, he was able to tank an exploding bullet that ripped a hole in his torso, a hit from a hammer-side from an orichalchum bazooka (look down at next paragraph for orichalcum explanation) by a guy who could catch and press at least half ton of a thick stone ceiling along with the ceilings and rubble above it collapsing on top of it too. He also lost an arm by a guy wielding orichalcum wires (who could also do the burst speed to a bullet dodger). And he was bleeding out and really didn't seem to mind.

1st scan is the burst bullet. Creed was never KO'd and Arm Fall off Guy fell off the top after that due to the foundation he was standing on crumbling. Next scans are the bazooka hit. In the bazooka hit, Creed wasn't stunned by the hit, he was actually stunned by Arm Fall off Guy rejecting his offer to join him once again which pissed him off.

Note: These are all before Creed had acquired his healing factor.

If Creed hopes to beat Wesker, he'll literally need to start hacking at him. Overcoming the man's durability is hard enough alone, but with that incredible regen, it's nearly impossible.

That's something Creed can get around rather easily. That's how he attempted to beat Arm Cut off Guy. Arm cut off guy just has a gun that is made up of the strongest metal in their universe which is no adamantium (it's more similar to carbonadium/secondary adamantium etc) but was only cut into by Creed's sword and I'll post the feat later. The metal is called Orichalcum in their universe and it was able to handle at least 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. It was attempted to be melted by a girl who could raise her body temperature to 1830+ degrees Fahrenheit and the metal didn't even phase the guy holding the weapon (whom is just a normal human as far as flame resistance goes). So the sword is very sharp and very durable. And he also killed another guy named Durham by hacking him from clean through his body at the shoulder to about mid oblique the other side and that was just him teaching his men a lazy so it a lazy kill on his part. But he hacked him almost all the way through. Orichalcum scan---------vvvv

Back to this scan, it shows Creed is willing to hack off limbs. And he didn't even want to kill Arm Fall off Guy, he wanted him to join him.

Ok so back to how to get around. Creed had a team that engineered a nanomachine that is capable of regenerating virtually everything. This was the basic stages for his breath of god nanomachine, mind you.

Scans 1-2

That is a werewolf filled with the Lucifer nanite which is the base for Creed's nanos. The drawback is it turns them into monster, Creed's did not hence the perfect nanite. So the nanites regrow limbs, organs (mentioned by Doctor in issue 9) and even heads and shown by the next scan which is a few moments after he lopped its head off. Btw, when he did lop it's head off, the monster didn't even fall down. He just stood there and in a few seconds regrew a new head.

Scans 3-7. That is Nizer attacking the monster til it is nothing but an arm which shows you how powerful these nanites, even at base form, are. It also shows how fast Nizer is.

Nizer was able to disappear and reappear to a guy named Maro, who could redirect bullets even from Arm fall off guy and managed to even tag him once, I will show you Arm Fall of Guy's speed and accuracy feats later in the post. And he disappeared in front of him, reappeared behind him then bashed him through a wall. I couldn't find the panel that precedes this one, but it shows Nizer about a good 10-20 feet from Maro and then reappears behind him. Also, Nizer is just a trained human.

So Creed, whom was once a member of the same group as Nizer, has seen first hand powerful healing factors and was trained to deal with them as shown by Nizer. Nizer is one of the highest officers of the group and Creed was going to be inducted but he was deemed mentally unstable. Instead, Arm Fall of Guy got the position Creed was inducted.

So not only is Wesker at a disadvantage in his ranged weapon won't work, but Creed does tend to hack at opponents in skillful manners unless he actually cares for them which he does Arm Fall off Guy. Creed on the other hand, does have the range advantage and this is actually one of the first tactics he does in his major fights (he only has about 4 major fights and assorted feats in various issues) in every one of those fights he utilizes his sword's growing feature.

The sword can grow to about 80 meters which is approximately 262.5 feet. So Creed has an invisible sword that can grow to 80 meters and he utilizes it frequently along with hack type slashes. Wesker isn't exactly in a good position here. Not to mention Creed is similar to Wesker and almost achieved godhood (using immortality nanomachines) and was very close to overthrowing the world's government, This is just his tactical expertise though, he isn't as smart as Wesker is as far as science goes.

Chris has certain feats that Punisher would nod his brow at. I seriously doubt arm-cut-off-guy is in his league, unless you show me some damn good feats.

Arm Cut Off Guy, rightly named Train, is incredibly out of Chris' league. Even Punisher would jaw drop at Train's speed, accuracy and reflexes.

Train's feats.

Redirecting multiple bullets from a trained killer rapidly firing twin pistols at him to the point dust is kicked up then proceeds to fire two bullets into the barrels of his guns. Last 2 scans are inverted.

He can easily leap 6-7 meters which is about 20-22 feet. He can also cartwheel dodging multiple goons with machine guns firing at him while taking them out in non-lethal shots.

He can hold a grenade then escape with almost zero damage just as it explodes. Last scan for some reason is missing but he is elsewhere with just part of his coat smoldering.

An accuracy feet which he deems a rusty one. He shoots a soda from a nice distance and "misses" 2 shots when he tried putting all six shots through the same hole and succeeds putting 4 through the same hole while the can was in mid-air.

Shot through a crowd of people to hit his target with a non-lethal bullet.

The scans are pieced. After scan 2 he relaxes his hit and falls but gets up so the softness of his neck muscles relaxed the blow. Just after the 3rd scan, he kicks the guy lol.

He turns and intercepts bullets from across a ballroom. 4th scan is just more bullet deflection.

He can dodge bullets near point black after fired. He can also tag a guy who can punch bullets back at people in 0.57 seconds (previous page but no scan) near full force of which they are fired, using perfectly calculated ricochet shots and to do so with just barely scraping his cheek to draw blood. Note the guy can create after images and swing his fist so fast and powerful that he generate mach speed fist projectile forces.

Train can also dodge a close quarter full machine gun clip from two machine guns from a trained killer and also swing his own gun so fast he create wind pressures to counter hell fire projections.

End of Train's feats.

Boy, more scans for Train than Creed. Anyways, point being, that is the type of person Train is. How fast and accurate he is. That is the kind of person Creed can match in speed, deflect bullets from and match in strength.

Creed is more than fast enough to keep up with Wesker, he's kept up with arguably just as fast, if not faster, opponents. And he is smart enough to use full kill swings and can extend his sword up to 80 meters which is also invisible and definitely sharp enough to hack him in half or his head off. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

@nickzambuto: Meh, I think it'd be close enough for a debate to be made for either side.

@god_spawn

These feats are actually irrelevant. These are all blunt force and concussive trauma for the most part. Wesker has a solid blunt trauma force trauma but his body can be pierced. One type of resistance does not add to the other unless they actually show. Spider-Man and Wolverine can soak blows from class 50 and up but Spider-Man has been stabbed, pierced by bullets and so has Logan. Their damage soak is better at blunt force than stabbing piercing.

Do you know how much shrapnel RPGs and Grenades expel? Shrapnel that fails to even scratch Wesker's skin? Bullets imbed themselves in Wesker's face and even at half power he took no damage from Sheva's knife stab. His piercing resistence is just as good as his blunt force, and considering Spider-Man and Wolverine have nothing to do with Wesker, bringing them up is pointless. I can counter that by saying Iron Man has equal durability in all categories; not like that matters to Wesker though.

As for Creed's own durability and pain tolerance, he was able to tank an exploding bullet that ripped a hole in his torso, a hit from a hammer-side from an orichalchum bazooka (look down at next paragraph for orichalcum explanation) by a guy who could catch and press at least half ton of a thick stone ceiling along with the ceilings and rubble above it collapsing on top of it too. He also lost an arm by a guy wielding orichalcum wires (who could also do the burst speed to a bullet dodger). And he was bleeding out and really didn't seem to mind.

Those are all good pain tolerance feats, but nothing that will stop Wesker from ripping Creed in half.

You showed some very good healing feats, but without durability to back it up, Wesker just needs to get his hands on Creed and he'll reduce him to an arm. Doing so seemed to finish off the werewolf for good, so I'm guessing it'll have the same effect on Creed.

That's something Creed can get around rather easily. That's how he attempted to beat Arm Cut off Guy. Arm cut off guy just has a gun that is made up of the strongest metal in their universe which is no adamantium (it's more similar to carbonadium/secondary adamantium etc) but was only cut into by Creed's sword and I'll post the feat later. The metal is called Orichalcum in their universe and it was able to handle at least 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. It was attempted to be melted by a girl who could raise her body temperature to 1830+ degrees Fahrenheit and the metal didn't even phase the guy holding the weapon (whom is just a normal human as far as flame resistance goes). So the sword is very sharp and very durable.

Considering Wesker didn't even seem to notice the fact that he crash landed into an active volcano, which can exceed heats of 2,000 degrees fahrenheit easily, not to mention the toxic atmosphere didn't even faze him, and he was at 1/3 power at this time, my point still stands of the blade just getting stuck in his body.

The fact that the sword is invisible complicates things, but considering Wesker is one of if not the single greatest martial artists on his planet, not to mention having unrivaled tactical thinking ability, all he needs is to figure out the sword is there. After that, it's a simple matter of watching Creed's hands and Wesker can avoid the weapon.

Wesker's fighting skill is something that I think isn't brought to light nearly enough, similar to how people never bring up that the characters he blitzes are bullet timers.

Even before gaining his powers, Wesker easily two-shotted Chris Redfield during the Mansion Incident. That's actually pretty impressive considering Chris Redfield stalemated Leon Kennedy, who in turn proved himself President Svetlana's better.

Leon wasn't even fighting there, he just wanted to subdue Svetlana because he currently had two dozen soldiers aiming their guns at him. When that proved complicated, Leon broke free, dodged a hailstorm of bullets, and kicked all of Russia's ass.

And just for the record, Svetlana is the premier Military Instructor her country has to offer, making her one of the greatest combatants on the planet,

She easily got the better of Ada. Wasn't even taking the fight seriously.

More direct feats for Chris include taking on multitonner monsters in CC like fodder, and being the #1 top BSAA Operative in the entire agency. So yeah, two-shotting him without powers is pretty good.

So Creed, whom was once a member of the same group as Nizer, has seen first hand powerful healing factors and was trained to deal with them as shown by Nizer.

Same goes for Wesker; his entire upbringing was just a conspiracy to induct him into Umbrella as the ultimate test subject. He has more than his fair share of experience with immortals and regenerators. Just ask Lisa Trevor, whom he used his brain to defeat rather than gun.

Turns out in the end though, Wesker was even better then Spencer had hoped, and ended up masterminding a series of plots to bring down the most powerful organization on the planet. His planning of the Mansion Incident stretched so far as to predict Brad Vicker's exact reaction to seeing the Cerberous Dogs.

Then he faked his death, and in a matter of months had created his own private mercenary company to storm Rockfort Island, all the while maintaining his status as dead.

"I will use one pawn to eliminate the other, and emerge with the spoils for myself."

Few years later, Wesker singlehandedly manipulates the Government into raiding Umbrella's main base and using them to thin out the BOW numbers. Wesker then stages his own one-man raid on the facility, killing dozens of powerful monsters and Tyrants, then stealing all of Umbella's BOW data on an optic disk, before erasing it all from the mainfraim and placing the final nail in the company's coffin.

This video has a couple good strength feats as well, ripping off an iron grate one handed easily and taking 50 foot leaps.

Wesker's insane tactical and strategic ability, plus martial arts mastery, should allow him to avoid the invisible blade, which I see as his most dangerous obstacle.

Arm Cut Off Guy, rightly named Train, is incredibly out of Chris' league. Even Punisher would jaw drop at Train's speed, accuracy and reflexes.

We shall see.

Most of those scans aren't accuracy feats, which is what I thought we were comparing (which of our characters dodges hits from the better marksman)

If you wanna play it that way, Chris, as I made mention of previously, can weave through Chain Gun fire whilst fighting off an army. He's skilled enough to attack an aircraft carrier with a Harrier Jet, and destroy all the anti-aircraft guns - with an aircraft! (Dodging missiles and perfect accuracy)

Chris makes a living out of fighting giant, horrific monsters and bioweapons, not to mention 20 ton boulders.

Haos was meant to destroy the planet.

Chris killed it by himself.

In terms of raw marksmanship, Chris is accurate enough to shoot Yawn (giant snake in RE1) straight through the eye, while he's tumbling through the air from a bone-crushing whack recieved by the snake. He lands three shots dead on the Popokarimu's weak point, despite said weak point being concealed behind the monster's tail while it's flying erratically hundreds of feet in the air.

From a speeding boat, he can headshot a Majini dozens of yards away behind cover, and he's an even better shot than Leon (superhuman perception, as mentioned previously, lands an RPG dead through Saddler's eye from across the platform while it's spazzing out in all directions)

Piers is described as a prodigy sniper, but he's said to only be as good as Chris was when he was younger. When Barry finds a room full of dead zombies, he immediately thinks "Chris."

He's shot the gun straight out of Carla's hand, defeated an entire league of armored-brutes, and fought things far bigger, tougher, and more dangerous then anything Train has, or at least anything you've shown him fighting.

Assuming Train is still the better marksman (not saying he is) Wesker dodges point blank gunfire from Chris AND Sheva, who's not to shabby herself (breaking a chain holding Chris's with a bullet being dragged by a speeding motorbike from across the room, without shooting Chris)

The ease of which Wesker dodges should also be noted, even at less then half power.

Creed is more than fast enough to keep up with Wesker, he's kept up with arguably just as fast, if not faster, opponents.

Arguable. Has he ever blitzed a bullet timer? Wesker has. Two at once, actually. ;)

@nickzambuto:

Do you know how much shrapnel RPGs and Grenades expel? Shrapnel that fails to even scratch Wesker's skin? Bullets imbed themselves in Wesker's face and even at half power he took no damage from Sheva's knife stab. His piercing resistence is just as good as his blunt force, and considering Spider-Man and Wolverine have nothing to do with Wesker, bringing them up is pointless. I can counter that by saying Iron Man has equal durability in all categories; not like that matters to Wesker though.

Which none of that is as sharp as Creed's sword, so they are irrelevant and Wesker doesn't have the durability to prove to stand up to it.

Those are all good pain tolerance feats, but nothing that will stop Wesker from ripping Creed in half.
You showed some very good healing feats, but without durability to back it up, Wesker just needs to get his hands on Creed and he'll reduce him to an arm. Doing so seemed to finish off the werewolf for good, so I'm guessing it'll have the same effect on Creed.

Creed's healing factor is different anyways but for all intents and purposes the same. And no proof Wesker can get to him.

Considering Wesker didn't even seem to notice the fact that he crash landed into an active volcano, which can exceed heats of 2,000 degrees fahrenheit easily, not to mention the toxic atmosphere didn't even faze him, and he was at 1/3 power at this time, my point still stands of the blade just getting stuck in his body.

Fair enough.

Honestly, a lot of what you said has no proof to disregard any of my claims. None of your feats match up, none of Chris' match up against Train's (and you even put arguably lol?), none of what you said Wesker seals the deal here. You posted nothing fast enough either to said he can dodge multiple attacks from Creed 250+ feet away, not a speed or skill feat to get in close.

If this is what you are bringing me, then you might as well just call it a short one and start asking for votes.

Anyways. 2nd level, which became a favorite form for Creed. The sword is easily able to cut into their world's strongest metal and the sword is mentally linked to Creed meaning it acts as he thinks. The sword retains it's extension ability and the ability allows it to perfect precise long range attacks so it maintains the 80 meters while being able to zig zag on a dime (think a Cyclops ricochet shot). The sword itself is able to catch 2 bullets fired from Train's gun near simultaneously next to each other showing very impressive speed and then spits them back out full force.

Then the 3rd form became his final consistent form when battling. It's how he finished Sephiria and 90% of his final battle with Train. This is actually a likely form to even start some battles, but not all. I'd say maybe 2 wins, maybe 3 at most. He doesn't need it anyway though.

Without it, he can already move fast enough to nearly match Train and now with it the attacks now provide a "shield" of Creed moving his arm so fast that it looks like bullets even ricochet off just an invisible force field, even Train had to take time to think about what happened as it does surprise him at first, he couldn't follow it. So Creed can swing his arm faster than someone well beyond Chris Redfield or Sheva as far as speed goes, let alone accuracy. And Wesker isn't fast enough, as impressive as his speed is, to do much about it; he will get caught before he reaches Creed.

The blade can also extend, crush meters and tons of stone, and even slice off tower tops.

The speed is there for the attacks, the extension ability as well. His strength further increases and he can basically one shot Wesker in half without a huge effort on his part in this form.

@god_spawn

Which none of that is as sharp as Creed's sword, so they are irrelevant and Wesker doesn't have the durability to prove to stand up to it.

Actually, since Wesker tanks attacks that would utterly destroy the toughest things Creed's sword has cut through, there's nothing to say it'll even harm Wesker at all.

The sword is easily able to cut into their world's strongest metal

Which isn't really that durable considering the greatest thing it's done was stand up to less than 2,000 degrees. Again, something Wesker has surpassed; fact remains that his skin is proven far tougher than the toughest things Creed's sword has cut through, and as such there's no proof that it'll hurt him.

Creed's healing factor is different anyways but for all intents and purposes the same. And no proof Wesker can get to him.

Besides having better speed feats?

The sword itself is able to catch 2 bullets fired from Train's gun near simultaneously next to each other showing very impressive speed and then spits them back out full force.

Again, if reacting to bullets is the best Creed has, it's not enough. Chris and Leon react to bullets; they react to other enemies faster than bullet. Wesker still moves faster than they can even perceive.

Without it, he can already move fast enough to nearly match Train

Train's best speed feat being blocking bullets. If Creed's best is nearly matching Train, he's not matching Wesker.

Creed moving his arm so fast that it looks like bullets even ricochet off just an invisible force field,

So he's moving faster than most people can perceive? As in, the speed that Wesker is always moving at?

So Creed can swing his arm faster than someone well beyond Chris Redfield or Sheva as far as speed goes, let alone accuracy.

Good. Wesker blitzed Chris and Sheva, so unless Creed is a good deal faster than them, this wouldn't even be worth his time.

Licker's weave through Machine Gun bullets; from a marksman of Leon's caliber, that makes them fast. Meanwhile, Mr. X caught a Licker by it's head from behind.

By that, Mr. X moves far faster than bullets (as combat speed goes) yet Wesker killed two custom Ivans at once after fighting his way through a BOW army and treated them as nothing but a further inconvenience.

Wesker deals with bullet speed every day of his life. Creed is going to need a lot more than nearly matching Train in order to contend.

If this is what you are bringing me, then you might as well just call it a short one and start asking for votes.

The most you've provided for Creed is bullet speed, and matching other people with bullet speed. That's a far cry from Wesker.

From what this thread has presented, Creed possesses no strength, no durability, and no skill. Seems to my like Wesker has the advantage in every conceivable category.

If you want to call this a short one that's fine with me. I have a lot more to say for Wesker, but I can't until you provide some feats for Creed that match up.

@nickzambuto:

If you want to call this a short one that's fine with me. I have a lot more to say for Wesker, but I can't until you provide some feats for Creed that match up.

Lol.

Anyways, yeah, we'll call it short. I have more Creed info as well but whatevs. We'll get votes.

@TheAcidSkull @Deranged Midget @Lvenger @jashro44 @Killemall @k4tzm4n @CadenceV2 @nick_hero22 etc etc.

Short one, but voting is open.

Starting a score card.

God_Spawn vs Nickzambuto 1-0.

@ReVamp Not calling you for a vote unless you want to, but I know you know about the Black Cat manga and thought you might like seeing it used in a debate for once.

@god_spawn: If I haven't posted anything in 24hrs, I'll have forgotten and a reminder would be real nice xP.

Heheh.

@nick_hero22 said:

@jashro44 said:

I would give it to god_spawn.

@Deranged Midget said:

Edge to god_spawn here.

Why?

Get some RE guys in here too, @Sherlock and @progenitor

@nick_hero22 said:

Stop trolling, you know that God_Spawn owned. Admit It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wasn't talking to you, Lord knows you'll never let me win a match.

@Floopay @Esquire @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@god_spawn: @nickzambuto: It sucks Manga cant be use in typical Battles with Comics. Its such a bountiful resource of debating.

Anyway I think God_Spawn showed better reaction time and damage output at a range vs Wesker here. He has my Vote.

Also Train is plain awesome. Using a Gun for a Shield is a art form in it self.

God_Spawn vs Nickzambuto 4-0.

@CadenceV2: Idk if you've ever read it or not or just saying Train is awesome from the scans I showed. The manga is called Black Cat if you ever want to pick it up. It's relatively short like 20 issues but an amazing series. Btw, don't watch the anime lol. I'm an anime guy when it comes to either manga or the tv version, but they done screwed up on TV.

nick has my vote.

@cooljammy18

God_Spawn vs Nickzambuto 5-2.

Powah to the people.

@tg1982 @BringnIt

God_spawn although in a very very close debate.

@god_spawn: I heard of it. I never seen it till now. Its Impressive.

@nickzambuto said:

@VeganDiet said:

Man, I was so hoping it was gonna be Victor Creed vs. Wesker.

Sabretooth might be a bit out of Wesker's league, to be honest.

Nah, I could actually argue for Wesker in that case. :p

I'll give the vote to nick btw. Theses two opponents are very close in physicality though and it would be good to see.

GS vs NickZ 6-3.

@cooljammy18 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@VeganDiet said:

Man, I was so hoping it was gonna be Victor Creed vs. Wesker.

Sabretooth might be a bit out of Wesker's league, to be honest.

Nah, I could actually argue for Wesker in that case. :p

Sabretooth is faster than Wolverine, who in turn is himself nearly Wesker'e equal. Add in that dandy H/F and I doubt Wes can put him down.

Vote if you would be so kind.

@Blood1991 @Xanni15

GS vs NickZ 8-3.

Creed's full power for shiggles.

GS vs NickZ 9-3.