Covenant elite vs. Predator

Pred. He's cloaked, and two or three shots from his cannon will put the Elite down for the count.

Now, a good question here would be: who would win hand-to-hand? And no energy shields or cloaking?

"Sparda said:

"Now, a good question here would be: who would win hand-to-hand? And no energy shields or cloaking?"

That is a Good Question. I would go with The Predator just because I am bias

lol

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"ok then elite with energy sword vs pred with wrist blades.
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I understand where this idea comes from all too well, did a Predator themed Halo map called 2killapredator. Covenant swords are very similar to predator claws, and active camo is an invention of the elites. I'd give it to the Predators though, If they die they take the person who killed them out two with the nuke they wear on their wrists

I dunno in the old PC AVP game, I dreaded Predators with a fear that I never felt with Elites in Halo 2

1. I give this to the predator. Elites are Spartan strong but not Spartan fast [definetly faster than a human, probably on par with a predator]. Im not sure of their detection gear outside of the games. The predator would have to take the Elite out quick and at range. His shield would allow him to take a few hits from the plasma caster and the metalic weapons. If the Elite was given the chance to fing the Predators postion the Predator could be in trouble.

2. The Elite wins. Home advantage. He doesnt need to fight at all. He could use the ships sytems to kill him. He could pressurise areas, seal them off, create electric phantoms to confuse the Predators gear, vent the atmosphere sucking the Predator into space. It would possibly be much close quarters and the Elite would have a better chance. His plasma weapon will be devastating to a Predator [it melts through flesh and armour very easily, gives third degree burns and a dose of radiation] whilst having the advantage of his shield protecting him.

I do believe Elites to be physically superior to a Predator, if only slightly. In a cage fight my money would be on the Elite.

YOU'RE ALL PRETTY $@&% STUPID. ELITES THAT HAVE THE RANK TO WIELD SWORDS ALSO HAVE ACTIVE CAMO. THEREFORE, BOTH SIDES HAVE ACTIVE CAMO.

Now, let's get down to the basics:
- I bet a few of ya' are thinking of the elite on easy mode. As stated by Bungie, Heroic difficulty was the reality of the war, therefore, Elites are a lot tougher than some may think.

- The average height of an Elite is 8'6;" the average height of Predators ranges from 7'2" to 8'8" tall. Given that the predator of the fight is at the median of around eight feet tall, the Elite obviously has a height and reach advantage here.

- From what I see in the movies, the Predator is strong given the fact that it can throw Xenomorphs (aliens)  decent distances. Also, the Elite can flip the Scorpion and Wraith Tank with ease, so I would guess that they are evenly matched.

- An elite's long legs prove its superior speed over the Predator.

-The Predator's heat spectrum eyesight can be offset by a number of factors while the Elite's standard eyesight doesn't lie (other than camo :P)

- Pred's gadgets have a range advantage over highly inaccurate plasma rifle/pistol.

- Elites borrow their technology from the Forerunner, an extremely advanced race. Therefore, their active camo would likely nullify the Predator's ability to see the Elite in the heat spectrum.

- If it wasn't for the Elite's shields, the Predator would have a quick victory with its numerous gadgets. However, this shield would give the Elite some compensation time. The Elite's energy sword would also be able to tear the killer net open.

- The Predator IMO has a better sense of stealth on most occasions.

SCENARIO 1: JUNGLE

Let's say both arrive on opposite shores on the island, aware of the other. They would likely hastily attempt to cautiously stay back, not charging in (they aren't aware of the other's capabilities, they just know the enemy is there). The Predator would take to the trees while the Elite would stay on the ground, circling the perimeter though careful to not make too much noise. Probably after a while, the Elite would site the Predator from afar from the shaking branches that the Predator was travelling on and/ or by his HUD radar. Since none of his weaponry has range, he would attempt to slowly make his way towards the Pred. At this point, he may step in a puddle and catch the attention of the Pred, who may see a faint silhouette though the Elite's active camo likely masks a majority of his radiating heat. No longer attempting to hide, the Predator attempts to blindfire his plasma caster a number of times, though the inability to lock on results in zero hits. The elite rolls, firing a volley of plasma from his rifle, possibly one or two hitting the Pred's armor. Since both have fired, their active camo has shut down. The Elite throws his first grenade, knocking the Pred off balance but doing no damage. Now running at the enemy, the Predator fires his Plasma Caster, though missing. He then launches his spear, hitting the Elite's neck dead on but barely even scuffing his shields. A shocked Predator slips behind a thick tree and waits while the Elite blindfires a dozen rifle shots. After a moment of silence, the Elite rolls out of his cover only to be snared by the Predator's net. Rapidly tightening on the Elite, he quickly reaches for his Energy hilt, activating the sword and with a dramatic display he shreds the net apart. The Predator, startled by this weapon, ascends once again to the trees and throws a shuriken, only to be deflected by the energy sword. The Elite leaps on a series of boulders followed by the branch of a tree. A chase ensues with the Predator turning around to fire his plasma caster twice, downing the Elite's Shield once. The Elite powerfully throws this last plasma grenade. The grenade bounces on a branch ahead of the Predator and explodes in midair, knocking a disoriented Predator to the ground. Nearly unconscious, the Predator activates his bomb. The Elite dives toward the Predator from fifty feet above the ground. He lands on the Predator and makes first contact by stabbing his sword into the Predator's chest. He quickly notices that the Predator's wrist mechanism is seemingly counting down and begins running away. The bomb detonates when the Elite as at the edge of its range. The explosion slams the Elite into a tree and the near lifeless body falls off the edge and falls fifteen feet down. Though not dead, internal trauma will kill him within the hour.

Work in Progress

Predator could get an ambush kill. 6/10 in a fire fight, the elite is going to take the victory thanks to recovery shield. hand to hand, predators are more skilled, but not as strong as elites. This could go either way, but if you add in an energy sword and wrist blades, that is a stomp in elite's favor.

What everyone else said, the Predator takes this with his plasma cannons :D

When it comes to a close range fight I would give it to the elite because the energy sword is an devastating at close range and would cut through the predators wrist blade no problem. But at long range the predator would win the thermal vision would give the elite away in a few seconds, according to the book Halo The Flood the elite's active camo gives away a large amount heat making it a giant target for the predator and also the predator's shoulder cannon is incredibly accurate and almost never misses and do to the fact elites charge their  enemies when they are they are injured he would be done in a few shots.

Predator absolutely OUTCLASSES the Elite here.  The battle was finished before it even started in the Predator's favor. WHY? 
 
Both have invisibility BUT the predator has HEAT VISION.

What does that mean? 
 
Elite's invis does not matter. 
 
Predator sees the Elite but the elite DOES NOT SEE the predator.  
 
Predator wins both 1 and 2. FLAWLESS VICTORY.

As my name implies I am biased with the Covenant Elites on this one.

As mentioned above their physical attributes are near equal, but the creator of the thread gave a huge advantage for the predators in the terms of gear.

From a point of view where a Sangheili Ultra is faced vs a Predator.

Let's say the ultra is equipped with an energy sword, regular plasma rifle, two plasma grenades, motion sensor(25metres) and cloaking. And the predator with his regular hunting garb.

Elite Ultra: The ultras are known for being great tacticians, strong fighters and only used for missions of great importance, their presence is almost a guarantee of success. The ultra is on heroic difficulty, which is "the way halo is meant to be played" .

First off, they have extremely strong shields which can sustain very heavy damage from opponents, they are very agile and will take cover once their shields are down, the predator can however spot them easily as the energy sword and plasma rifle are both very warm weapons, but that can work against the predator as he can confuse his sight by shooting enough hot plasma around him, making it hard to spot the real him. I assume the predator would find the elite first, but he wont be able to one hit KO him, meaning he will have to give away his location in order to kill the elite. Both of them possess long ranged weaponry, tho the plasma cannon is far more accurate than the elites plasma rifles, the elites themselves are seen firing with extreme accuracy.

Other than that I believe the elite would win, as the elite is probably faster than the predator, and his powerful shields will enable him to fire while being shot at, instead of the predator which would have to do a duck & shoot strategy in order to evade damage, the elite could exploit his ducking and pin him while getting within sword range for a certain kill.

If they were in a ship the elite could, as mentioned earlier, vent out the predator whatsoever.

If it was an elite minor/major (they're not allowed to wield energy swords) then it'd go to the predator, as their shields are considerably weaker, and the predators plasma cannon is awfully powerful, accurate and fires at a quick rate.

If it was an elite of rank above ultra (zealot, councilor, arbiter(arbiters are usually great fighters) general or honor guard) then the elite would again, win.

If it was any of the stealth ranks of the elites, the predator would have a certain win as the elite with fairly weak shields will try to get unspotted by the predators radar AND heat vision.

I got a little torn, because people either say predator is way better, or they say Sangheili is way better. But then Sangheili also have classes, so it's like, which one? Plus Halo: Reach made Sangheili epic again, lethal killers, even the not Zealot ones are dangerous. Or maybe I just sucked at it. Also, predator fought alien (alien as in those big things with the tails and acid blood) before and did good, so maybe they might do good here. Sangheili do seem a great deal more intelligent than those other aliens, though.

@nick_hero22 said:

Predator wins

Physically superior with highly advanced technology better than what the Elite is packing

Wrong.

@Rozh:You got it wrong, the Predator will never not know the situation of a hunt. The fact is that Yautja (predators) are hunters by nature, its in their culture. If an Elite Arbiter ended up on an unknown island its because the Yautja put it their so it could be hunted. And an EXPERIENCED Yautja hunter would study the Elite. Learning about him, maybe bring some more Elites to see how they interact with or without one another. And the Predator would know the terrain and would use it to his advantage in anyway possible. He'll use psycology to mess with the Elites. ex; making calls for help to the Elites and the Elites end up walking into nothing or a trap, screams of pain or suffering to force the Elites to find their helpless comrades thus splitting up, and making the Elites feel that there are animals hunting and stalking them. That's how the Yautja work, and the wrist bracer (nuke/computer) is what generates the cloak, it generates electrical currents that allow it to bend light at will. But it can also be reversed, ex; absorbing the ENERGY from the ENERGY sword with the wrist blades. The energy sword is made of Hard Light, like the light bridges in Halo, and hard light has electrical ENERGY coursing through it, so if the Yautja hunter blocks an energy sword strike with the wrist blades it will be absorbed by the wrist bracer and could even be expelled back out of the wrist blades creating a electrical shockwave. But if the sword made contact with the armor of the hunter the energy would be slightly defelected but the hunter's armor would be damaged and the hunter would escape. Plus the Yautja masks have different visions in order to locate a target, so the Elites will never be truly able to hide.

So in short.... Predator FTW!!!!!!

Plus in the 2nd battle scenario, Covie ship (Destroyer, Cruiser, Correvette, or Super Carrier), the Yautja would be going to destroy the ship. Not board it and hunt all the individual Covenant on board. That's just ridicules. The Yaujta would just destroy the Covenant ship in its way. Simple as that.