Count Dooku VS. Iron man
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So my friend says dooku can short out his armor with force lightning but i think iron man would r@pe the shit out of Dooku.
fight 1. dooku cannot suffocate or explode from vaccum of space. fight takes place on the top of a star destroyer. they start at opposing ends
fight2. inside of a seven eleven 20ft by 20ft and iron man cant take flight.
fight3. on top of a sky scraper and iron man starts in the air
what the hell is this?dont gimme that lol. this is to settle an argument. who do you think would win?
@Blood_guts said:@JediXMan said:dooku cannot suffocate or explode from vaccum of space. fight takes place on the top of a star destroyer.... may I ask what the point of this is?
@Blood_guts said:aw come on its sooooo coooooldooku cannot suffocate or explode from vaccum of space. fight takes place on the top of a star destroyer.... may I ask what the point of this is?
@Comicfan47 said:
Dooku. I like Iron Man and all but he is a damn Sith.....what about repulsor blasts?
@JediXMan said:... uh-huh.@Blood_guts said:aw come on its sooooo coooooldooku cannot suffocate or explode from vaccum of space. fight takes place on the top of a star destroyer.... may I ask what the point of this is?
Anyway, Iron Man wins. So says the resident Star Wars fan.
@Blood_guts: I dont think it will work here, Doku has the force which is way more powerful than Iron Man's suit.What is this "Force" and what's he going to do with it? People always say "the Force is too much for ___" but I want to know once and for all exactly what he's going to do with it.
@Comicfan47 said:dont worry its with him lol.@Blood_guts: I dont think it will work here, Doku has the force which is way more powerful than Iron Man's suit.What is this "Force" and what's he going to do with it? People always say "the Force is too much for ___" but I want to know once and for all exactly what he's going to do with it.
@JediXMan said:No, seriously. I want an answer.@Comicfan47 said:dont worry its with him lol.@Blood_guts: I dont think it will work here, Doku has the force which is way more powerful than Iron Man's suit.What is this "Force" and what's he going to do with it? People always say "the Force is too much for ___" but I want to know once and for all exactly what he's going to do with it.
Also, just to be a stickler.... What type of Star Destroyer and on what part of the hull are they fighting?oh ummm well funny story i know why you ask what type because i was trying to find a picture of two people fighting on a star destroyer and i see now that there is such a thing as a super star destroyer. to be honest though i think the regular one looks cooler with the thing in the back. so i guess this one
and i guess the flatter part
@JediXMan: Use the force to short circut his armor, create sheilds with the force which could block Iron Mans blasts. Forcr Choke the crap out of him. Shall we not forget that Dooku has been known to use Force Flight??? Plus lightsabers which would slice through Iron Man easy.1. How is he going to short circuit his armor? Let's not forget that Tony has taken shots from Thor and survived nukes.
2. So can Tony. Tony's shields at about 2% blocked a nuke.
3. Uh-huh. Force Choke... one of the weakest powers out there. It's for intimidation. It's nothing.
4. Show me when he actually flies and doesn't just hover or slowly descend. I want to see evidence of him flying around or fighting while flying (not fighting while falling, which most can do anyway, or fighting while jumping. Flying, as in continual movement in the air and changing directions)
5. Which assumes he can land a hit on Iron Man.
Next.
@JediXMan:Again: when he's actually flying, not hovering or descending, which is what he's doing in that picture - which is why you just posted the picture, rather than the video that would dispute your argument.
He uses Force levitation, which means he can hover. Doesn't mean he can fly like Tony can fly.
Still haven't shown me anything.
This is a clip of the scene where that image is taken from. He goes up a bit and descends. But it's not the same thing as actual flight (like Superman or even Iron Man). Skip to 2:00@JediXMan: Oh, I always thought that was him flying? Huh, all I can say now is that it clearly states on the wikipedia that he can, but for the most part I dont have any more proof or evidence to back up my statements. So this debate/argument (I dont know what to call it) is over and you win I guess.
.... did you just tell me that I should read the books and comics? Really? Please do not patronize me.@JediXMan: Ur not listening. You know that i am a huge Star Wars fan like yourself, but i say that Dooku wins. He does have the power to use force flight. If you have ever read the comics or books you would realize this. Of course it doesn't show up on record that Dooku personal can fly as fast as iron man can, but he can fly. Like i said before read the comics and books. Everything in there is canon. Or just make it easy on yourself and read Star Wars wiki. It has stated that force users can in fact fly. Look at Dark Jedi Maw. He flys everywhere he goes.
I am quite familiar with the books and the comics, thank you very much. And I realize how continuity works; do you?
Show me right now when he can fly like Iron Man can, or to a large degree other than simply levitation himself. I know what Force levitation is, and Dooku isn't the only one who has done it. I want scans. I want quotes. And none of it from Wookieepedia or Wikipedia. Directly from the comics or books you are mentioning.
@JediXMan: Of course it would....listen a lightsaber can easily cut threw blaster doors, that not even space ship guns can cut though. Some star wars fan you are, if you dont know what a lightsaber can cut through.He's talking energy fields, not armor.
It can't cut through cortosis. It can't cut through Mandalorian iron (at least not easily; it takes multiple strikes). If you were a Star Wars fan as you claim, you'd realize lightsabers are not all powerful.
@TheAvenger802 said:@JediXMan: Ur not listening. You know that i am a huge Star Wars fan like yourself, but i say that Dooku wins. He does have the power to use force flight. If you have ever read the comics or books you would realize this. Of course it doesn't show up on record that Dooku personal can fly as fast as iron man can, but he can fly. Like i said before read the comics and books. Everything in there is canon. Or just make it easy on yourself and read Star Wars wiki. It has stated that force users can in fact fly. Look at Dark Jedi Maw. He flys everywhere he goes..... did you just tell me that I should read the books and comics? Really? Please do not patronize me. I am quite familiar with the books and the comics, thank you very much. And I realize how continuity works; do you? Do Show me right now when he can fly like Iron Man can, or to a large degree other than simply levitation himself. I know what Force levitation is, and Dooku isn't the only one who has done it. I want scans. I want quotes. And none of it from Wookieepedia or Wikipedia. Directly from the comics or books you are mentioning.
Sorry, I had to.
@progenitor: What the hell is going on there?!!??reed richards just told ant man he doesnt know as much about pym particles? *shrugs*
@JediXMan: Hah, I noticed that too, though it happens more frequently in comics than we noticeI know. It's just that that was so blatant. At least space it out a bit. I mean, really. It's exactly the same for three panels. I've seen that, but not when the dialogue is changing while the characters don't match the situation (.... other than Land)
―Anja Gallandro to Jacen Solo
And the guy above with the red lightning is from the clone wars, if you had ever watched season 3 you would have seen him kill his sister, and then fly straight up into the sky going amazingly fast.
@JediXMan: First off you didn't read what i just said if your saying that i said Dooku can fly as fast as iron man. I said he couldn't. Like i said before also others can fly.1. I don't watch the new Clone Wars show because it is crap.
―Anja Gallandro to Jacen Solo
And the guy above with the red lightning is from the clone wars, if you had ever watched season 3 you would have seen him kill his sister, and then fly straight up into the sky going amazingly fast.
2. I want proof of Dooku doing it. And you haven't shown me anything that I haven't already mentioned. I mentioned hovering and descending. Show me actual flight. Stable, controlled flight. Not just going down, not just going up, not just slowing descend, leaping forward or back, or hovering.
3. Do not patronize me again.
@JediXMan: I never said lightsabers are more powerful than anything else in the galaxy or anything like that. I can ashore you i know much much more about star wars, powers, worlds, people, and almost anything else than you.Stopped reading right there.
I will not respond to such arrogance as this. I wasn't insulting you, but you're insulting me. You can be certain that I'm not the one who looks bad here.
@texasdeathmatch said:Oh yeah, its pretty damn obvious, I agree, lazy as all hell.@JediXMan: Hah, I noticed that too, though it happens more frequently in comics than we noticeI know. It's just that that was so blatant. At least space it out a bit. I mean, really. It's exactly the same for three panels. I've seen that, but not when the dialogue is changing while the characters don't match the situation (.... other than Land)
@JediXMan said:u know i actually didnt notice because i was watching miss marvel's reaction which i found pretty entertaing lol. i gotta say though the fact hank doesnt shift at all is strange.@texasdeathmatch said:Oh yeah, its pretty damn obvious, I agree, lazy as all hell.@JediXMan: Hah, I noticed that too, though it happens more frequently in comics than we noticeI know. It's just that that was so blatant. At least space it out a bit. I mean, really. It's exactly the same for three panels. I've seen that, but not when the dialogue is changing while the characters don't match the situation (.... other than Land)
im just throwing this out there does flight really matter? i mean he can travel however he wants but if he cant withstand iron man's repulsors then hes sunk
But yeah, flight doesn't isn't the deciding factor...but then again, this is ComicVine. People will debate anything to the death.
In my opinion, i believe Dooku will utterly decimate tony.
Dooku's knowledge of the force is very powerful, he will rip tony out of the suit. and use unblockable Force powers that shields cant stop
Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back, used the the Force to kill admiral Ozzel from a view screen, through a star destroyers shields which would be exceedingly more powerful than tonys suit shields.
it took Anakin Skywalkers RAGE, to beat Dooku according to sidious is more powerful than any one, Dooku really beat himself in Revenge of the sith he showed Anakin how to feed off anger and rage in the fight and got killed for it, if dooku hadnt taught him that, as he was battling, Anakin would have died! Showing you how powerful Dooku truly is.
he taught General Grievous light saber combat, he taught Qui-gon jinn who was very awesome, whos skills taught obi-wan, thats why obi-wan couldnt beat Dooku.
Dooku's Force powers are among the best nearly on par to Sidious if you look Dooku had his own agenda and was more a dark jedi rather than a sith.
Tony would die in this battle....now with Prep im sure he can come up with a SITH BUSTER suit to get the job done
@Blood_guts: Yeah, I think they strategically mean Statue the biggest one in the panels to distract readers, but its always super awkward when the person speaking never changes. But yeah, flight doesn't isn't the deciding factor...but then again, this is ComicVine. People will debate anything to the death.was it not miss marvel or is this a term for large distracting tactic that worked on me? "statue" i mean.
i mean i suppose it is relevant for the last fight and maybe the first but not too usefull depending on iron man's damage output
@JediXMan: Dooku really beat himself in Revenge of the sith he showed Anakin how to feed off anger and rage in the fight and got killed for it, if dooku hadnt taught him that, as he was battling, Anakin would have died! Showing you how powerful Dooku truly is.Not really. Star Wars Visual Dictionary for Episode III states that Dooku was expecting Sidious to lend him power in that fight, and in almost every Sith v Jedi encounter there's some baiting to get the Jedi to cave into anger. If anything, I'd say that Dooku's confidence destroyed him and not some chessmaster plan to get Anakin to defeat him.
That same confidence could be his downfall against Tony. I'm not sure how similar Tony Stark's Iron Man suit is to anything in the Star Wars universe, so Dooku might make connections and assumptions that are just plain wrong about the suit, allowing Tony time to hit him with what he's got. Jedi in Episode II and III were killed by blaster fire coming from multiple directions, and I'm sure Tony could simulate something similar.
My knowledge of Star Wars is based on movies, for anything further I would defer to JediXman.
From what I saw in the movies, any Force related abilities took concentration, So Dooku is like a normal guy with a lightsaber and potential to throw rocks if he concentrates, on the other hand Comic book Iron Man is a top tier character that can throw down with Hulk and Thor
I believe this is spite actually, but like I said I don't know that much about the EU
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