Could The Flash(Wally) solo the Avengers and Xmen?

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#1 Edited by XImpossibruX (3303 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Bloodlusted Wally West

vs

No Phoenix, or Phoenix force, starts 200 feet away from each other.

Morals off for both. Wasteland area. Pre-52 Wally.

Really interested. Wally and Speedsters in general have been buffed up to the point where it's almost impossible to beat them with a regular hero. Could Wally do it? Or will the team stop him.

#2 Posted by Alice_Summers (1209 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Iceman is the only one who stands a chance.

/debate.

#3 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2898 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Nope.

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#4 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (331 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Nope.

Yes. He does it before any of them have time to think.

Over half a million people, transported in 0.0001 of a second.

#5 Posted by Pokeysteve (3055 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

I peed myself with glee when I first read that story ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#6 Posted by Joygirl (6087 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Yes he could.

#7 Posted by Zella (64 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

While the above feat is really impressive I think Flash might still lose depending on the conditions. Does Flash have previous knowledge of the Marvel team, so he knows who to take out first. Also I assume both teams are starting standing still, I'm not familiar enough with the Flash to know what kind of acceleration he has.

The marvel team has a chance with either Iceman or Scarlet Witch if they can survive long enough. Scarlet Witch could just make Wally no longer exist, while Iceman could freeze Wally's blood if he could get a bead on him. There is also the issue of the heavy weights from the Marvel team, if I remember correctly the Flash has some super strength but it is mostly built off of momentum/kinetic energy from his running. It should be really tough for Wally to try and build up enough speed to take out Hulk, Thor, and Colossus. Prof X or Jean Grey could also mentally lobotomize Flash if they can get the chance.

I'd still give it to Flash 7/10, though that depends entirely on how fast he can accelerate to the speed needed to blitz the team and also if he is able to maintain the speed.

#8 Posted by jobbernos (1370 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

yes easily

#9 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (915 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Yeah I think He could

#10 Posted by BringnIt (3680 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Is BFR on or off?

#11 Posted by TheCowman (441 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

I hope not. That'd be even more tiresome than World War Hulk's lame fights.

#12 Posted by XImpossibruX (3303 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@BringnIt said:

Is BFR on or off?

Anything goes.

#13 Edited by CerberusPrime3k (915 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@BringnIt: Probably on if so

I can see him dumping a quarter of them into the speedforce and one shotting the rest with some imps.

#14 Posted by Bossmonster (786 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@RedLanternSuperman said:

@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:

Nope.

Yes. He does it before any of them have time to think.

Over half a million people, transported in 0.0001 of a second.

This!!!!!!!!!!! Why anyone at any point would fight "Bloodlusted no morals" Flash is beyond me. He would do them and leave before the first body

dropped and still have time to screw his girlfriend and take a shower and a nap before showing up for work early.

#15 Posted by YoungJustice (5664 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Quite possibly, even as Kid he was an extremely powerful speedster.

#16 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

Quite possibly, even as Kid he was an extremely powerful speedster.

LOL no.

He was the worst speedster ever as a kid.

It wasn't until The Return of Barry Allen, that Wally began to unlock his full potential. Even then, that story happened in 96.

#17 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (707 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Yes.

#18 Posted by beautifulrevery (1158 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@YoungJustice said:

Quite possibly, even as Kid he was an extremely powerful speedster.

LOL no.

He was the worst speedster ever as a kid.

It wasn't until The Return of Barry Allen, that Wally began to unlock his full potential. Even then, that story happened in 96.

Actually this. They even poke fun at it in Young Justice. He's the slowest speedster besides Jay(their speeds are never compared).

Back on topic, flash can probably take this but he does have to contend with Colossonaut, Scarlet Witch, and Iceman for the Xmen annndddd no one on the avengers team really worth mentioning since they'll be taken out first.

#19 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@beautifulrevery said:

@nickthedevil said:

@YoungJustice said:

Quite possibly, even as Kid he was an extremely powerful speedster.

LOL no.

He was the worst speedster ever as a kid.

It wasn't until The Return of Barry Allen, that Wally began to unlock his full potential. Even then, that story happened in 96.

Actually this. They even poke fun at it in Young Justice. He's the slowest speedster besides Jay(their speeds are never compared).

Back on topic, flash can probably take this but he does have to contend with Colossonaut, Scarlet Witch, and Iceman for the Xmen annndddd no one on the avengers team really worth mentioning since they'll be taken out first.

I'd wager Jay to be faster. He unlocked more of his potential when he met Barry. Barry getting him out of retirement and pushing him to exceed his previously concieved "limits" really helped. However, he did reach his heighest point under the teaching of an older Wally West.

#20 Posted by CadenceV2 (9756 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Iceman and Colossanuaght.

#21 Posted by Mattersuit (3573 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

Iceman and Colossanuaght.

This

#22 Posted by The Stegman (12878 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Yes, because Flash is fastest there is.

#23 Posted by Kellar21 (444 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

It really depends if they can get a shot on Wally,can he accelarate beyond their reach before the telepaths can lobotomize him,or iceman can freeze him or thor can fry him,or many other things.Even if he can there's one Avenger he may not be able to beat,Dr.Strange has autoshields whose feats allow him to tank flash's attacks.Some heroes MIGHT be able to AOE him.Or hell blow up the planet and be done with it.

Put SS there and they may have a chance.

#24 Posted by Sethlol (1232 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Ice Man may do something but normally..Flash should win.

#25 Edited by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Iceman is the only issue here, but Wally will eventually KO him.

Everyone else will be a statue before they can think of doing anything.

He'll just BFR anyone he can't put down.

@Kellar21: He can accelerate his thoughts to where TP doesn't work on him. And since this is a bloodlusted Wally, there's really nothing any TK/TP is going to do. Also Current Strange is a joke.

#26 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (900 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CerberusPrime3k said:

I can see him dumping a quarter of them into the speedforce and one shotting the rest with some imps.

I see this happening.

#27 Posted by Oni_Bane (773 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Everyone (with a few exception, you know who you are) on this site thinks so.

#28 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15625 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

X-Man could take him

#29 Posted by Billy Batson (54320 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

That's not even Wally.

BB

#30 Posted by The_Mayhem_Theory (1060 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
He could, but then again, he probably couldn't. Cyclops might be able to stop him with a full-powered optic blast (visor removed), that would be a long shot (pun intended). If Flash is kept busy, Scarlet Witch could say, "No more Wally West." Iceman is going to be the hardest, and I don't see BFRing him working.
#31 Posted by XImpossibruX (3303 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

That's not even Wally.

BB

Shhh.... the picture looked cool.

#32 Edited by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

really really this guy taking on all of marvel

#33 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2600 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

This is exactly why the new 52 was enacted. All this nonsense of one character being way too powerful that people have him beating a whole universe. Btw Wally technically doesn't exist anymore so Marvel wins by default. Lol. Thank god the New 52 nerfed some of the characters.

#34 Posted by TheCowman (441 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades:

No see, that's back when the Flash's powers were at a reasonable level and he had to use his brain to pull out victories against more powerful or multiple opponents.

They're talking about modern comic Flash, who apparently is so powerful he should be able to solo cosmic level threats. I'm sure there's an explanation as to why he didn't just use these abilities on every villain he ever faced and instantly stomp them. There must be an explanation.

I just doubt its a good one.

#35 Posted by Stronger (4642 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

In his dreams

#36 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Flash cant harm Collosonaut, Iceman, Hulk etc without BFR. Even with BFR Collosonaut still remains

#37 Posted by SpectresWrath01 (189 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

really really this guy taking on all of marvel

i just find this funny! But seriously guys I know Wallys feats are impressive but the entire X-men and the Avengers? O_O; This is a bit over the top for me.

In comics Wally has had tons of problems dealing with simple villians and to my knowledge he has never done anything, anywhere, close to what this thread is saying. Some of you might want to reconsider your answers.

#38 Posted by jackofspades (1839 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCowman said:

@jackofspades:

No see, that's back when the Flash's powers were at a reasonable level and he had to use his brain to pull out victories against more powerful or multiple opponents.

They're talking about modern comic Flash, who apparently is so powerful he should be able to solo cosmic level threats. I'm sure there's an explanation as to why he didn't just use these abilities on every villain he ever faced and instantly stomp them. There must be an explanation.

I just doubt its a good one.

yeah its call pis

#39 Posted by guttridgeb (4317 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Yes, via BFR.

#40 Edited by Docnick (10453 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

really really this guy taking on all of marvel

Should I pull out scans of Wolverine getting KO'ed by a deer?

Maybe Captain America getting hit by a truck?

How about the Sinister Six crapping on the Avengers!?

#41 Posted by X_insignia1 (853 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Colossuss is not longer empowered by Cyttorak...

#42 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Wally can either KO them in a nanosecond, turn them into statues or BFR to the speedforce...either way, he wins.

#43 Posted by SHAZAM117 (1183 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Besides Wanda and maybe Iceman, Flash could BFR or trap them in the speed force....A cheap win, but a win none the less

#44 Posted by XiiX (2360 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Yes.

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#45 Posted by CaptainDoeo (425 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

What can Wally do against flight based heroes?

#46 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@X_insignia1 said:

Colossuss is not longer empowered by Cyttorak...

Since when

#47 Posted by X_insignia1 (853 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@X_insignia1 said:

Colossuss is not longer empowered by Cyttorak...

Since when

since magik took him to her realm then broke the bond between him and Cyttorak

this was in AvX consequences i believe

#48 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CaptainDoeo: Throw rocks at them. Which basically turn into little stars when leaving his hands.

#49 Posted by WillPayton (4754 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CaptainDoeo said:

What can Wally do against flight based heroes?

Wally can fly.

Hey, I'm not making it up, he actually CAN fly.

#50 Posted by MagnificentStorm (525 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

It matter on who he takes out first and if he could take out the heavy hitter with one hit. I doubt that he could take out Thor and Hulk out in one hit. He would end up shattering Iceman not knowing that he can easily make many copies of himself. Or Iceman could start to freeze Flash once he hits him and comes in contact with his body. My main point is if Flash is distracted for a second and stumbles then its over.

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