Could "any" Jedi really beat the Hulk?

For those unaware, John Campea of AMC Movie News (an official and sponsored movie blog from AMC theaters) recently answered a question regarding Star Wars Episode 7, where a viewer asked if it would be a good idea for Jedi in the next film to be portrayed as strong enough to take on the Hulk. John, who let me add, is an avid fan of comic books, goes on to state that ANY Jedi could already defeat the Hulk. He basis this on two reasonings: 1) Jedi mind trick, and 2) Lightsabers can cut through anything.

The question is at the 12:28 mark.

Needless to say I was pretty surprised at that answer, but it got me thinking, is he right? Without much Star Wars knowledge I couldn't answer that, so I figured I'd come to the experts. Could any Jedi, as in, ANY Jedi from the Star Wars universe defeat the Hulk? Are there any holes in his arguments?

Yes

no.

Yes.. some very big holes.

The Mind Trick thing entirely depends on how mentally resistant the Hulk is (someone should drop a couple feats - consistent ones), and how much powerful the Jedi is in Mind Tricks. But the claim that "any" Jedi could "easily" mind trick the Hulk is pretty bloody ridiculous. Not all Jedi even know how to use mind tricks, a lot are complete novices... I mean I would wager someone like Luke in and around his prime, possibly Yoda and maybe someone else who is decent with mind tricks/beast control like Kenobi or Anakin, could do it. But not your average or even above average Jedi.

Second, lightsabers don't just cut through anything. They can cut through some very hard materials, but not everything. They've cut through nearanium (I can't spell), a metal which is so dense it warps the space around itself, as well as Capital Ship hulls which can withstand hundreds of thousands of tons of pressure. They can also cut through beings called Lava Worms which casually live in lava. However there are metals which are highly resistant to lightsabers, such as Phrik, certain types of Cortosis, and Mandalorian Iron/Beskar.

So.. I dunno if going by that, a lightsaber could through or even hurt base Hulk. But it wouldn't go through him "like a knife through warm butter". That's ridiculous. Lightsabers have met resistance with materials far less durable than the Hulk. Hell, anyone who's watch the movies could work that one, seeing as every time a Jedi comes near a blast door their answer is to very slowly cut a circle through it (although durasteel is very durable).

So my answer is no - not "any Jedi" could beat the Hulk. But there are maybe less than a handful who could depending on their skill set and how lightsabers match up to the Hulk's durability.

No he will regen faster than they do damage plus light sabers can't cut through anything this person who did the interviews is rather lookingn naive and dumb to be taking on the Star Wars project

Not any Jedi. Some, yes, but not all. Any typical Jedi would not be able to win via lightsabers or Mind Trick - not even close, and there are Force users who suffer from varying disabilities in some ways, such as unnaturally poor telekinesis or unnaturally poor telepathy, much in the same way that a person is blind or deaf from birth. Vs any average Jedi, Hulk would SLAUGHTERHOUSE. Only some of the Jedi could beat him.

Also, lone lightsaber slashes would not immediately bypass Hulk's durability, let alone his regeneration. It would require repeated strikes at a sizable fraction of the speed of light in order to circumvent such things, something only Luke and possibly Yoda and Jacen could replicate.

I am lead to believe that this should be in the General Discussions board, however.

Not any Jedi but big dogs as Grand Master Luke, Yoda, Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, Dooku, Anakin, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan may have a chance.

Obi-Wan is not beating the Hulk, nor is Mace Windu or Maul or even Anakin, perhaps. The only method they could even come close to getting as far as beating the Hulk goes is TK BFR, but then the Hulk's jumping capacity is enough to cover that distance anyway. Anybody with Stun or Stasis could, though, to be honest, since non-Force sensitives have no resistances to such things.

Yoda, Palpatine, Luke, Cadeus all have a shot.

I want to say Plagueis, but I am biased by fanboyism on that front....

@laflux: Plagueis might be able to. I'd argue that Traya and Vitiate could as well, probably even Nihilus depending on how well Hulk takes life force draining, which I'm not entirely sure of. Regardless, Nihilus has Stun and Essence Transfer to work with, so he should win regardless.

So if you think essense transfer could work, would you say Bane has a chance too?

@laflux: I don't think Nihilus would be able to possess the Hulk, since his variant of Essence Transfer revolved around imprisoning himself in his armor and mask since it was a necessity to survive. I just think Hulk has no way of ending him.

As for Bane, maybe. He has to invoke a physical, voluntary ritual in order to use Essence Transfer, and unless Hulk lets him just grab on to him and channel his essence into Hulk, which is entirely possible, then he would lose. As for who has the stronger will, I can't say.

@shootingnova: Vitiate wasn't more powerful than Windu or Anakin. he is overrated he was immortal yes but don't invincible, Traya was powerful but not at the levels of the Jedi that i mention. people overrate much characters that are not so powerful.

@mjolnirson: Yes, he is. I've wrote an entire blog on how Vitiate is overrated - I think I am well aware of how much he is overrated and where his actual power lies, thank you very much. As for Traya, I made a respect thread for her and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about if you think she isn't at the level of Obi-Wan or Mace Windu. Her TK, TP, Cloak/Concealment and Heal feats are some of the best in the history of the galaxy, and her Force knowledge is also one of the best in SW history.

I think I am well aware of how capable the two of them are, and yes, they are ahead of most of the people you have referenced, aside from obvious exceptions. You presume too much about me (and them) if you think I overrate them. If you disagree, cite feats and evidence which would prove me wrong, because frankly I'm oblivious to such evidence, but I suppose by customary tolerance I will have to admit that they might exist, but it's up to you to disprove me.

Younglings and padawans most likely won't. They lack the experience.

Knights and masters could if they fight smart and be careful.

Really experienced and skilled masters definitely could.

Nope. They can't hurt him nor are there powers sufficient enough to truly effect him.

Duh

Depends on the incarnation. I'm assuming its savage hulk and at base there's most likely a handfall who could beat him. It all relies on the Jedi though, I honestly don't see any of them taking a punch from the hulk but they might be able to avoid his fists. However I don't see any of them killing him quick enough, once hulk realises he can't hit them then a simple thunderclap should do the job. If they can kill him within the first minute then yes, they win, anymore than that and hulks healing factor and durability would be to hard to get through.

There's only one Jedi who would be able to defeat the Hulk, and it's not because of the reasons this John fellow gave.

@juiceboks: that fits so perfectly

Some can but not all

Wolverines claws can "cut threw anything" we see how well that works...

Yes, they're several Jedi and Sith that can beat Hulk, but not just any can.

Several.

Multiple can, multiple Sith too.

Yes

I disagree, considering the feats and histories of the Star Wars characters.

If they can cut through anything…..why have I seen them bounce off bannisters? Really why didn't Luke just cut the foot off those AT-AT's? I see a lightsaber making too clean a quick of a cut anyway. The Hulk should heal almost instantly.

he lost me with the reboot/remake argument. Rights are fine but the argument he used for reboots/remakes was very shaky(Original movies aren't heterosexual both gay/hetreo are original) . Leaving out Crystal Skull means he's against bad movies and that he doesn't want set movies/box sets ruined. that could be used against him in either argument..."what does it affect you" is a triumph card but that opens up a can of worms. Your opinion isn't important thus his isn't important making only the powers that be important. Which he doesn't agree with as the leaving of Crystal Skull says he doesn't add bad movies to his set memories of indiana Jones.

But yea several Jedi's could take on the Hulk. Their telekinetic ability could control him, his anger could be manipulated, his mind can be melted. For center jedi's the use of the saber would be a last resort.

gm luke can wreck him

Nope. He's not nearly powerful enough.

I listened to that guys excuses. And I gotta say; He's fulla $hit. He knows absolutely nothing about the Hulk, and holds onto the same fanboy logic that has existed since Star Wars was first made.

The truth of the matter is far simpler. There is No Jedi, there is No Sith, there is No Force-Using figure in the entire Star Wars Universe, that can beat the Hulk. Period. He is impervious to their TP. He's do durable their lightsabers will barely singe his arm hair. And he is so strong that their best efforts will just irritate him.

Lightsabers have failed against in-universe materials, both organic and inorganic. It's been stopped by energy fields. The idea that this guy can say it could affect Adamantium is a goddamn Fantasy. It's absurd beyond all reason.

Maybe he's thinking Movie Hulk. Maybe that's the Only Hulk he knows. He deals with movie news. And if that's all he knows about is the films, then he should not have offered such a blatantly ignorant response about a character he knows absolutely nothing about. I'd even go so far as to say that guy has never actually read a Marvel comic in his life. The guy even referenced Unobtanium from freaking James Cameron's Avatar, which has absolutely Nothing to do with what was being asked.

I love AMC movie talk :D

@ghostravage @theacidskull

Multiple Jedi and Sith could beat Hulk, not just Luke, but I endorse the idea that the fellow in the individual obviously passed on judgment in spite of plain ignorance.

@shootingnova: Care to list some off? I may be forgetting one or two Jedi..

@juiceboks: If by Jedi, you mean anybody with Force-sensitivity and a lightsaber blade, which is in some situations, I'd argue that anybody with sufficient skill in Stun or Stasis would be enough to win, such as Malak or Nihilus. Anybody with Essence Transfer might be able to beat the Hulk, or at least avoid destruction, and anybody who can render themselves invisible, such as Kreia, should fare well enough.

If it's only Jedi, I'd say only Luke and possibly Streen and Kyp Durron could do it, or maybe Jacen as well. Yoda should be able to get an impasse.

@theacidskull: Where did I say having skill with a blade was enough to beat the Hulk?

If on comic vine. Then probably yes.

@theacidskull: Pretty much the examples I gave above. Hulk's resilience should prevent nearly all physical-based Jedi from beating him, with the exception of Luke, but then, there is little point comparing any typical Jedi to Luke. Aside from that, I'd argue that more esoteric or simply powerful applications of the Force would be enough to beat the Hulk, but not sheer lightsaber prowess.

You win.

@eisenfauste:

Meh, When in Rome. Ill just stick to trollin, trollin, trolllin.

@shootingnova: I actually had the latter in mind. Kyp is debatable but I haven't seen anything from him that would decisively take down Hulk. I disagree on Jacen for pretty much the same reason as Kyp but to a greater extent. My knowledge on Streen is very limited though..so I dunno about that one.

@juiceboks: On the vine, a DC civilian could take down the Hulk.

@jagernutt: See that's why I appreciate you, because of your comments.

Ah, shuks. Im nothing without my friends.

:)