Cosmic entities vs. Supernatural beings

• Which do you think will win doesn't necessarily have to be from any particular universe any one you want such as marvel's cosmics or dc cosmics. Also supernatural beings such as Ghost Rider, Spawn, Hellboy, Malebolgia, Violator, Mephisto, Satan, Lucifer Morningstar etc. Cosmics to me are space oriented such as cosmic energy, blackholes, stars, galaxies, time. Cosmic beings tend to be able to bend space and time. Supernatural beings are magical, mystic, demonic, ghostly, angelic, godly etc. To me supernatural have the upperhand because they have extremely powerful realtiy warping powers and are unpredictable and immortal. Though the cosmics show more of a purpose for the universe to exist and are more important so they cant die either because they are embodiments. Overall which do you like better and is more powerful, I think supernatural is in my opinion.
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Cosmic beings examples:
- Parallax 
- Galactus 
- Living Tribunal 
- Beyonder 
- Anti-Monitor 
- Phoenix Force 
- Death 
- In-betweener 
  
Supernatural beings examples: 
- Mephisto 
- Satan 
- Lucifer Morningstar 
- Spectre 
- Malebolgia  
- Violator 
- Hellboy 
- Spawn 
- Ghost Rider 
-Vengeance 
- Man of Miracles  
- Etrigan 
- The Presence 
- Blackheart 
- Michael Demiurgos 
 
Cosmic powers: 
 Reality and time bending powers 
 Immortality due the fact of purpose 
 Cosmic energy manipulation 
 Universal manipulation  
 Dark matter and energy manipulation
   
Supernatural powers: 
Hellfire  
Divinity/Omnipotence
Illusion casting 
Hypnosis 
Telepathy 
Telekinesis 
Possession 
Shape-shifting 
Immortality   
Magic/Mystical 
Darkness manipulation  
Soul absorption

 

  

the presence??? solos dont u think.. if the one above all is included in cosmic entities..then its a draw..

michael+lucifer= the presence. so thats essentially two of the presence. oh boy.

Are they really mutually exclusive?

Supernatural beings in a Stomp!

If you are talking about the examples then Supernatural's win since they have the Presence and MoM. 
@recordkeeper: Well i was going to say that myself but, if I remember correctly Livivng Tribunal used magic agains Dr. Strange, before so that could qualify him as both cosmic and mystical, I always tought that the more powerfull beings like TOAA, Presence, MoM can't really qualify as Cosmic or Mystic since they, like the Living Tribunal, can probably use both.

Even some   Supernatural being's have cosmic awareness  

Michael Demiurgos could pretty much "unmake" anything he wanted to...but he always held back because of his noble character
 
the Presence placed in Michael "the fire that builds and breaks", the power to create and uncreate...Michael had "infinite power"  
 
Lucifer had the ability to shape/manipulate anything to his will...he had "infinite will"
 
Michael + Lucifer would be unstoppable IMO, especially in bloodlusted mode 

Well there is Presence on one side, beyonder on the other.. and unless this is pre-recton beyonder its Presence could pretty much solo everyone in a murderstromp..  
If its pre-recton beyonder with full powered LT they might have a chance against Presence in a solo batter.. else as stated everyone else is just finished! 

How is Presence or Man of Miracle supernatural ?

@Warcry80 said:

Supernatural beings in a Stomp!

got that backwards, Cosmics Stomp this without dubt

It really depends on the specific characteristics of the beings in question. A lot of supernatural beings have random weaknesses that negate their overall effectiveness which are often based in the mythological lore that was in their background, while cosmic beings do not, for the most part, have any legitimate weakness.  
 
In general, I think cosmic beings are more powerful and can menace reality and the existence of the universe, while supernatural beings mainly warp reality and are bigger threats to street level teams. Just pointing out that cosmic beings can exhibit all of the powers listed in the Supernatural Powers section - hence there are Soul and Mind Gems among the Infinity Gauntlet, almost all of the comic beings exhibit telepathy and empathy on a much higher scale than any supernatural being, and they can do better than cast illusions - many cosmic beings are capable of creating life or the semblance of life out of nothing. 

Hellboy <3

Cosmic Entities would stomp. The seven cosmic entities of the emotional spectrum will definitely find their host to possess and cause a lot of mayhem, Galatcus could jus swallow all of the supernaturals, and so on. There have been more events that occurred in which cosmic entities caused greater cataclysms throughout the universe in which they either succeed with ease or failed but not without disaster (The Bigger They Are, The Harder They Fall).

But they would be killed by pre-retcon Beyonder.

Presence solo's. Man of Miracles solos.

Presence solos

@rhysdurden: You are quoting 6 year old post posted by a user who hasn't been active for more than 7 months. Not to mention that you bumped another mismatch. Don't do that.

Man of Miracles solos, he is true omnipotent being.

Presence and rest get rekt by Living Tribunal, who gets rekt by MoM.

Lucifer+Michael is just another Presence

@krleavenger: oh ok...sorry, I won't do it again, I promise.

@rhysdurden: Don't be sorry. Just don't bump non active threads that are mismatches. It's against the rules.

@krleavenger: ok. I'll try not to do that again.

Cosmic entities are supernatural beings since they govern and possess the mystical power of chaos by existing as forces of reality.

Example, new gods are pretty much abstract conceptual ideas as space based deities. The endless a advanced levels of the new gods and the lovecraft versions are even the godfathers of cosmic space gods from both versions in a sense.

Cosmic entities are supernatural beings since they govern and possess the mystical power of chaos by existing as forces of reality.

Example, celestials are pretty much abstract conceptual ideas as space based deities. The endless a advanced levels of the new gods and the lovecraft versions are even the godfathers of cosmic space gods from both versions in a sense.

Cosmic entities are supernatural beings since they govern and possess the mystical power of chaos by existing as forces of reality.

Example, celestials are pretty much abstract conceptual ideas as space based deities. The endless are advanced levels of the advanced versions of them and the loversions patheon versions are even the more advanced godfathers of cosmic space gods from both versions in a sense.

@batmanandrobin: Bruh, chill.... we got your point like 3 times already lol.

There are too many factors, but mostly high-end supernatural beings are placed higher.

Vertigo gang blinks everyone. Lol at the idea of Beyonder Vs. the Presence or his angels.