#1 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

who takes it?

#2 Posted by GamorasBigDaddy (2818 posts) - - Show Bio
@gobstakid777:
Golden SuperMan wins...
#3 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
@GamorasBigDaddy: how so?
#4 Posted by GamorasBigDaddy (2818 posts) - - Show Bio
@gobstakid777 said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy: how so? "

I consider GoldenSupes to the right hand of the presence basically, the ultimate Angel above all others. 
A Omniversal power...CAS was only Multiversal...
#5 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (895 posts) - - Show Bio

@gobstakid777: On the DC wikia or Superman wikia, it has been stated that he is the second most powerful entity in the DCU... surpassed only by the presence.

#6 Posted by eisjfiejss (509 posts) - - Show Bio

The thought robot wins based on feats.

#7 Posted by XMen1963 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baberaham_Lincoln: I'm 100% sure that The Spectre surpasses Superman Prime 1 Million by far.

#8 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (895 posts) - - Show Bio

@XMen1963: Yeah... i don't know really, not a pro on superman related topics.... more of a BLUE BEETLE AND ROCKETEER FAN!!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHZOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

#9 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime One Million has no feats....
Cosmic Armour Superman wins.

#10 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Feats doesn't matter at all. The thing that really matters is POWER

#11 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@jeanroygrant: Feats doesn't matter at all. The thing that really matters is POWER

how are you gonna measure power if you don't have feats? Pretty ignorant statement.

#12 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: feats are wrong method of measuring power. for example if strongest man of earth have never fought against anyone then by your logic he should be considered as weakest man since he have no feats

#13 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

superman prime 1 million is superman sun dipped for 15 thosand years, and has the reality warping powers of the 5th dimension imp. superman stomps

#14 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber: if the strongest man on earth has never done anything to earn that title...how would you know he IS in fact the strongest man on earth?

#15 Posted by dondave (26446 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime One Million ftw

#16 Edited by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: by his heavily built body(like hulk). And tell me what is the greatest feat of MoM?

#17 Posted by MonsterStomp (13035 posts) - - Show Bio

Cosmic Armor Superman takes this.

Superman Prime 1M has nothing to compare with. The fact that he's been sundipped for a million years means what? He can bust and recreate a multiverse? Until that has been proven we have nothing to go on. CA Superman took down Mandrakk. Based on feats CA takes it. Based on theory Prime 1M takes it.

#18 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: by his heavily built body(like hulk). And tell me what is the greatest feat of MoM?

see, that's where you're wrong. Someone's heavily built body has nothing to do with that in comic books; for example, Wonder Woman. She looks like a pornstar but is easily stronger than Batman who has more muscle mass.

Dafuq? what does MoM have to do with anything here?

#19 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: I was giving example for strongest man of earth (in reaity, not in comic so why is wonder woman here?)

Just tell me greatest feat of MoM. it has many things to do here

#20 Posted by Killemall (16955 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

see, that's where you're wrong. Someone's heavily built body has nothing to do with that in comic books; for example, Wonder Woman. She looks like a pornstar but is easily stronger than Batman who has more muscle mass.

Dafuq? what does MoM have to do with anything here?

#21 Edited by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: ....a cracked out pornstar?

@Sniber: But we're talking about comics, not real life.

MoM was Jesus Christ...so all of his feats apply I suppose; He/She also birthed God and Satan and countless other beings IIRC

#22 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: I mean to say what are MoM's fighiting feats?

#23 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard one, CA is megaversal, he is bigger than the multiverse, but Prime 1 mil is nigh omnipotent and second most powerful being in Dc, not counting vertigo.

#24 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: I mean to say what are MoM's fighiting feats?

spanking both god and the devil

#25 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: I mean to say what are MoM's fighiting feats?

spanking both god and the devil

yes,and those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god.

and MoM don't have any more fighting feats comparable to supes so will you consider ca supes to be greater than MoM ?

If yes then no point to argue with you. If no then prime > ca. I know that ca supes is multiversal but you don't know that prime is Omniversal he is next only to presence.

#26 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines said:

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: I mean to say what are MoM's fighiting feats?

spanking both god and the devil

yes,and those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god.

and MoM don't have any more fighting feats comparable to supes so will you consider ca supes to be greater than MoM ?

If yes then no point to argue with you. If no then prime > ca. I know that ca supes is multiversal but you don't know that prime is Omniversal he is next only to presence.

How is Ca multiversal if he exists outside of the multiverse? He is obviously megaversal.

#27 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (14189 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with CA supes..

#28 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime One Million IMO

#29 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines said:

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: I mean to say what are MoM's fighiting feats?

spanking both god and the devil

yes,and those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god.

and MoM don't have any more fighting feats comparable to supes so will you consider ca supes to be greater than MoM ?

If yes then no point to argue with you. If no then prime > ca. I know that ca supes is multiversal but you don't know that prime is Omniversal he is next only to presence.

MoM is not really omnipotent or omniscient either, he/she made plenty of mistakes and didn't know stuff about spawn and whatnot IIRC. Also, MoM/Prescence/TOAA don't have many 'fighting' feats merely because they are not central (or fightin') characters in the entire plot of the comic books, they are merely supposed to be an aspect of the creator god...in some cases more than that.

Now, Do I think Thought Robot is more powerful than MoM? No, MoM does have some pretty good feats, like ordering God and the Devil around, creating many universes and having a sh*t ton of progeny to rule those worlds. Thought Robot on the other hand has not been shown to pull crap as impressive as the Prescence or Lucifer. Now, do I think MoM and the Prescence are the be all/end all of their universes? Yes, but like I mentioned, neither of them are Omnipotent...they're close to it though (Prescence cannot get rid of the Great Evil Beast and MoM could not tell something about Spawn...I forget what. TOAA however has been shown to be omnipotent if I am not mistaken).

Now, on to your next point.

I don't think you're getting the concept of feats here. Yes, Prime has hyperbole on his side, but no way to gauge his real power. MoM, TOAA and Prescence all have feats, SP 1000000 has only a couple of appearances and cannot be measured properly. The only thing that can be quantified (and only if you go by the WoW sundipping rule) would be his regular kryptonian powers which would be gynormous...but as for his other powers? Aside from bringing Lois back from the dead? I dunno; but hey, I might be mistaken, i'm all for being educated when someone knows more about a character than I do...so if you could provide some proof and scans to support your theory...i'm never one to not admit I was wrong.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

#30 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: If you have read the comic in which MoM told briefly about god and satan then why you want those scans? As I told you those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god. so ca supes have more feat than him. and you agree that mom(may not be omnipotent as you said) > ca supes inspite of having lesser feats. so supes prime > ca supes inspite of ca having lesser feats.By the way normal supes have more feats than prime so do you consider him above prime ?

and though presence was not able to get rid of beast easily still he absorbed him making him winner and proving him to be greatest in DC comic. and supes prime is next only to presence.he is omniversal like presence, may not be omnipotent. He can do anything and everything except harming presence.

#31 Posted by Deadgod (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

CA Supes mega stomps , prime 1 million can't do anything to him

#32 Posted by Killemall (16955 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

yes,and those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god.

and MoM don't have any more fighting feats comparable to supes so will you consider ca supes to be greater than MoM ?

If yes then no point to argue with you. If no then prime > ca. I know that ca supes is multiversal but you don't know that prime is Omniversal he is next only to presence.

Ok, what particular issue, bio or instance says, or remotely even implies the underlined part? I have read DC one million, and its bio too,so where are you getting any of these?

#33 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

I would suppose the Prime One Million should win based on what it's supposed to be, I guess. Cosmic Armor has better showings though I think

#34 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: If you have read the comic in which MoM told briefly about god and satan then why you want those scans? As I told you those god and devil were shown to be of planatery level. MoM gave them planet earth to rule. they were not real omnipotent god. so ca supes have more feat than him. and you agree that mom(may not be omnipotent as you said) > ca supes inspite of having lesser feats. so supes prime > ca supes inspite of ca having lesser feats.By the way normal supes have more feats than prime so do you consider him above prime ?

and though presence was not able to get rid of beast easily still he absorbed him making him winner and proving him to be greatest in DC comic. and supes prime is next only to presence.he is omniversal like presence, may not be omnipotent. He can do anything and everything except harming presence.

I don't think you're reading my posts man...or ignoring them completely. I already told you. Yes, Superman has many more feats than Superman Prime One Million, but none of them ARE on the scale of SP1000000 (even though they are limited). Look, you can argue all you want, the thing is, you haven't shown the slightest proof to support any of your arguments, and there is where your downfall is; you try and disprove and twist and turn...but without anything to back it up mate.

Like I said, Put your money where your mouth is, bust out the scans, show us some proof instead of your whining and complaining.

#35 Posted by Sniber (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: I am not posting scans because I don't have scanner. In my country, comics are available as hard copy only. by the way which scan are you asking for?

#36 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber said:

@Jayfournines: I am not posting scans because I don't have scanner. In my country, comics are available as hard copy only. by the way which scan are you asking for?

the scans where it says golden Kal-El can do anything and everything and is second only to the Prescence as you implied. As for the scans? i'm sure you can use google images and look for the part you are arguing in favor of...I mean, you do see how no one here can actually take your argument seriously when you refuse to provide any proof in regards to your point (like almost everyone does when engaged in a debate and are trying to prove a point); I mean, you're basically asking everyone in the Vine to trust your word merely because you said it.

You can see the folly in that, right?

#37 Posted by LordMaverick (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sniber: No, on Comicvine, Feats> Facts

#38 Posted by TheUltimateAvenger (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow never thought id see this thread again. But seriously didnt Grant Morrison himself say that all the facts about Superman Prime One Million were true and it was his word that made it possible... and there was that one comic in which Superman Prime One MIllion supposedly recreated a Universe with a thought, plus if you actually read his back story it is said that he "cracked the gates of heaven" which in supposed to be the Source Wall, which no being less than Megaversal power has been able to do (Freaking Spectre and Lucifer have had trouble breaking through more than once) plus the powers of the Queen of the 5D imps power was transfered to him, plus the Green Lantern ring which is said at maximum to have Reality Warping powers on a Multiversal Scale... yeah

Then again the Thought Armor Robot was supposed to be created by the Primal Monitor (possible alagory for the Presence) to defeat any threat no matter how powerful it was and got infinitely stronger with time, repaired itself indefinitely, and has actual FEATS... and Grant Morrison admitted that while Superman Prime was the second most powerful being in DC, The THought Robot wasnt exactly a being... so i dont know

Gonna go with it being a large ass stalemate, then they combine their forces to kick the Living Tribunal in the balls. :)