Cortana vs EDI cyber battle

This was brought to my mind the other day.

Cortana (Halo) and EDI (Mass Effect) have to fight each other:

ROUND 1:

Both have the same ship, and engage each other using the ships battle commands, Cyberwarfare can be used to destroy the other ship or incapacitate it.

ROUND 2:

They both have to get to an encripted source. Both at the same time cyber fight to be the first to get the information. They can cyberattack/block/hack/whatever each other.

BONUS ROUND!

Cortana gets a similar body like the one used by EDI, and Joker gets interested in her. EDI gets bloodlusted. Cybercougar slap fight!

EDI's cyberwarfare suite is designed to protect the Normandy from detection and infiltration by Reapers; a single Reaper is capable of technopathy on a planetary scale. Dunno what Cortana's got on that.

@saren: Know any halo experts here?

@linark: @deranged_midget and I think @yourneighborhoodcomicgeek

@saren: Much appreciated

Cortana can calculate trillions of individual pieces of debris in a mere span of sixteen days, process things millions of times faster than even the most gifted and cunning humans and hack into complex alien technology (including Covenant AI). This isn't hyperbole either.

Im bumping this, im still curious of the result

@saren:

Cortana is way more advanced than EDI. Cortana is able to pilot a covenant ship, improve it's weapons and designs, think millions to billions of times faster than a normal human, absorb Forerunner artifacts that are far more advanced than REaper or Protheans and take on the Didact. Cortana can also create copies of herself, can EDI do that ?

Cortana can absorb Forerunner artifacts and hack into Forerunner tech which is WAY more advanced than Reaper or Protheans. The Forerunner's had ships that are bigger than the Citadel and could obliterate the Reapers.

You realize Cortana thinking "millions of times faster than a normal human" makes her about as fast as my laptop, right? What does any of that stuff you mentioned actually matter? What does piloting a ship and absorbing artifacts have to do with technopathic offense and defense? Has an individual Forerunner ship ever controlled the synthetic population of an entire solar system? Because an individual Reaper ship has done so, and not even a powerful one, but one of the weaker Destroyer-class Reapers. EDI is designed to constantly defeat detection and infiltration by hundreds, even thousands of such ships, any one of which can extend technopathic control over an entire star system. What has Cortana done with her cyberwarfare, who has she done it against, and what have they done to matter? So what if Cortana can create copies of herself? Is she going to dogpile EDI with them?

Size and firepower are related to technopathy how?

EDI

Going with Cortana. Cuz...she hot.i mean...look at her..

@saren: I'm no expert on Halo but I know a small bit about the Forerunners. The Forerunners were on a galactic scale. Their halo rings were designed to wipe out all life in the galaxy which they did so due to the threat of the flood. They could casually move planets to other solar systems with ships. There are other things but again I'm not the best to be asking.

I don't care about EDi's capability to fight against Reaper ships, apart from that, she is no where near as advanced as Cortana. The Forerunners are far more advanced than the Reapers, their ships make the Citadel look puny. Cortana can create copies of herself and fight against the Didact. The human brain has the potential to be smarter than any computer as we only use ten percent of our brain capacity. Cortana was create from human brain tissue and she can actually feel emotions.

EDI

cortana is emotional and that is a weakness in a fight.

The Forerunners were capable of wiping out galaxies, composing planets, creating stations that dwarfed the citadel such as the Halo rings which were 20,000 kilometer, the sphere which was three hundred million kilometers. Of all the races the Reapers defeated, how many of them were on par with Forerunners or even Covenant apart from the Protheans ? the Forerunners would utterly annihilate the reapers, because they controlled 3-5 million planets which is more than what the Imperium of man had and they had millions of capital ships. not to mention the fact their ships could range anywhere from 15 kilometers to 100 kilometers or perhaps even much bigger than that. The standard UNSC frigate has more firepower than the DA. Cortana can hack into those types of computers the Forerunners had.

dondave, I highly doubt that, and saren, I gave some aspects of what the Forerunners were capable of. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just giving my own personal opinion on this battle. You asked for what the Forerunners were capable of and I gave it to you. the UNSC had something called a Nova bomb which can potentially crack a planet in half and shatter moons, destroying all life on the planets in seconds whereas it would usually take the Covenant a few hours to glass entire planets and what Sightless reality said too. As i said before, the Forerunners could wipe out galaxies compose entire planets and Cortana was able to fight against the Didact in weakened state. She hacked Fore runner computers and absorbed Forerunner artifacts which is clearly more advanced than Repear or Prothean because again, they had stations FAR bigger and more advanced stations and ships than reapers or protheans stuff.

@vortex14:

The human brain has the potential to be smarter than any computer as we only use ten percent of our brain capacity

actually this is a myth

and yes the Forerunners are infinatly more complex then the reapers But cortona has never defeated a Forerunner AI in fact she has only ever been helped by Forerunner tech and most of her achivements with that tech can be attributed to the fact that she is based on and is suported by a reclaimer ( human) meaning the tech goes out of it's way to help her

Now in the OP's round 1 Ship on ship combat EDI wins hands down why? because she is the only one who has feats for controlling a Ship with any degree of accuracy she IS the ship while cortona can theoretically get into the ships systems and pilot she would be fighting an up hill battle

Round 2 Cortona wins this as the OP did not give EDI her combat computers to fight with Cortona gets the info fast

Round Bounous EDI again due to the fact that she has on the ground combat experaince while Cortona has none

Ok, thanks for the info. But cortana was able to pilot a covenant ship and improve it's weapons and engines.

ends in sex huehue

@vortex14: Was she a main ship AI able to control them entire frigate by herself while simultaneously maintaining all necessary subsystems (such is life support) and cyber warfare simultaneously ?

The fact is EDI has a hell of a lot more experience piloting ships than Cortona and unlike Cortana EDI is hardwired into the ship while Cortana is software in the ship

That means she simply has to have a faster reaction time than Cortana just to physical limitations

You make a fair point of how Cortana is abale to hack Forerunner computers, but the same could probably be said for EDI from being based on Reaper tech. Also, I'm not saying that Cortana can beat EDi because of being able to pilot Covenant ships and improve it's weapons and engines. Yes, cortana is not hardwired into a ship like EDI but she can still beat EDI in cyberwarefare, though not a ship vs ship contest.

I agree with EDi having more experience piloting ships because she IS the ship, but Cortana would win in an all out cyber warefare due to the fact she can create copies of herself and she can think faster.

@vortex14:

You make a fair point of how Cortana is abale to hack Forerunner computers, but the same could probably be said for EDI from being based on Reaper tech.

Cortona is not forerunner based she merely is helped by better Clearance. EDI however benefits from the reaper code but it does not give her an advantage over the reapers by it's self ( if anything it makes her vunrable ) it only allows her to play on the same level for a bit

but Cortana would win in an all out cyber warefare due to the fact she can create copies of herself and she can think faster.

Creating copy's of her self is not a feature it's a bug

what you are referring to is a Byproduct of her rampancy which is a handicap scattering her thoughts

basically what you are trying to put as an advantage is a multiple personality disorder vs a coldly logical person in a Chess game

No, Cortana gained the ability to create of copies/clones of herself in Halo: First strike

@vortex14: can you show me this Because AI's normaly can't do that the only "duplacation "an AI can do is casting off personality sub routines eiter when they go rampent

She got the ability to clone herself from a covenant AI she destroyed and dissected. She tested her clones and found they worked great, though not to HER exact level.

And while held captive by the gravemind, she created copies of herself to distract the Didact.

@vortex14:

really? hats werid that ability is nevere mentioned in fact at the end of Halo 4`that would have removed the need for using her rampency to break herself apart

I read that she gained the ability to do that or discovered it in Halo : first strike and she create copies of herself in Halo 4 to fight against the Didact.

I meant she created copies of herself to distract the gravemind, my apologies.

This is kinda funny with the new Cortana...

Cortana is superior in every way, especially in the „look” department.

Cortana wrecks

@vortex1456789: Yeah... Hardware can't be copie & paste, and partitions are not fully copies... Unlike the software

first: The match is cortana vs EDI, not forerunners vs reapers, secondly: The reapers were not meant to destroy life on a galactic scale, they were meant to preserve it in reaper form wich makes each reaper a biomechanical warfare nightmare wich stands unopposed even after the halo activation, yes, a reaper fleet has no chance against a single forerunner drednaught in a direct fire fight, but yet their tactic stands unopposed by the forerunners, the indoctrination is so subtle, the forerunners would end up firing the rings under reaper command, allowing the reapers to fully lay siege on the extragalactic forerunner systems and later to assimilate their tech, yeah, the forerunners are advanced but the reaper tactics is a combination of both guerilla and brute force tactics not mentioning their psychosomethic warfare, think of them like that swarm of ants from the amazon wich devours everything at their path, but add them nerve agents, not even the apex predator stands a chance, be it a 4D being or not, they could indoctrinate the gravemind where the forerunners failed, they could remotely indoctrinate the didact to do their bidding... the only thing that makes the forerunners slightly more advanced is their 4D tech, the forerunners may be more advanced, but their weapons are unefective against conscious biosynthetic warfare. Since they are focused towards organics, not mentioning their tactics are focused towards attrition, yeah, I wont deny the forerunner fire superiority, but the reaper tech and tactics is a fictional representation of shang tsun's guerilla tactics since they tend to exploit critical weaknesses like political tensions, wold wide threats like the R&M bomb planted in the krogan homeworld, though they are totally capable of conquering the galaxy through attrition, they were programed with the conservation of life in reaper form, wich makes losing a single reaper a blasphemy towards their main directive, thats why the reapers start taking so much interest in the human race since shepard destroyed sovereign, but that's enough talking about reapers and forerunners, we were talking about EDI and Cortana: cortana was born from the psychosomathic print from the neural synapse patern of a clone of dr. halsey's brain, wich makes Cortana fully an AI, but cortana has no physical body, she is pure software wich in human terms means Cortana is an artificial Soul while EDI indeed has a body wich is infused with reaper tech wich we already know is Biotech, in more human terms, they are both same-ly advanced, one representing the soul and the other one the body, both can increse the efectiveness of the ship/frigate they are installed on and both have high hacking capabilities, the diference is that Cortana from Halo like SAM from mass effect andromeda, both instead of forcehacking their will, they communicate with their respective universe's tech, forerunner/remnant as seen in both andromeda and halo 5, unlike EDI who indeed forcehacks her will to other VI's and AI's, not saying EDI is more advanced, they are both equally advanced but think more of Cortana as a diplomatic AI and of EDI as a tiranic “do my will or I will overwrite you" AI who got her way with joker to be free... though lets be honest... project lazarus's hybrid AI showed a lot more promise than EDI and Cortana, i mean, it was about to turn skynet galaxy wide, not mentioning the reaper augments it would have got if it succeded in infecting the normandy and EDI systems within it.

Back to the reapers and forerunners... please... a single forerunner ship might be able to destroy a reaper fleet, but the reapers can practically hack organics at any distance, and there is no shield or psionic shield strong enough to prevent it, unlike the reapers creators whose mind controll could be interrupted by a shield strong enough... this makes me think that the reaper indoctrination works more like a computer virus wich doesn't need to be connected to the web to be harmfull while the Giant squid mind control works via mind link A.k.A. telepathy

easy: lets put it this way: the vietnam war: America: the forerunners... north and south vietnam: the reapers... what happened? America surrendered... why? did they lost in battle? no, they never lost in battle, it is true, but it is also irrelevant, the vietnamese general achieved victory through confusion and deceit, and despite american superiority in training, numbers, and an overwhelming weaponry superiority they still had no other choice than to sign peace... why? because the vietnamese general knew about the political tensions in the USA, he knew the war was ill seen by half of the american population, and he used that to his advantage, his soldier had tatoos with the quote “born in the north to die in the south" printed on them, not only that, he used ambushes, snipers, hit and run tactics and were always on the move, using empty outposts as decoys and their knowledge of the local jungles to their advantage, american troops found out too late that the ones controlling the flow of the battle and the war were the vietnamese, they battled only when the vietnamese wished to and where they wished to, at the end their tactics worked and American leaders had no other choice than to order their general to sign peace.

What if the high patriarch was reaper indoctrinated and wanted to do the great voyage duee to the reaper indoctrination? :V nah, just joking around in this one, back to the subjet, i would like to agree with you vortex on the fact that the forefunners are more advances, but I can only difer, the reaper creators A.K.A. the inuzani (not their true name, the inuzani are another extinct race from ME universe, but many thougth them to be the giant squids) might not be a 4D race, unlike the forerunner, but they have the 4D perception, not mentioning their technology was able to even generate black holes and harness dark energy, despite all that,they were hedonist, they were considered and considered themselves to be gods due to their power to bend the will of the other races, their technology was focused towards control, the reaper AI was first created as a police AI tasked with finding the most viable way of preserving organic life, this ever evolving AI went rouge and pulled a galactic wide Borg skynet wich lasted billions of cicles, Creating one new reaper each cycle (50,000 years each cycle) the mass relays, the citadel, everything was created to let life evolve at a good fast rate without allowing them to evolve to a point where they could replicate an advanced AI like the reaper's, now lets assume the reapers fight the forerunners: The reapers as an ever evolving AI, they could integrate forefunner technology to their design once they decipher their engineering and upgrade vastly their own performance, yes, the reapers will never be able to build those forerunner colossal ships, but the thing is that the reapers are not focused towards building Megastructures, like I said: they are programed to preserve organic life, this directive evolved to preserve organic life but now in reaper form... everything, the citadel, the mass relays, all of it was created by the reapers with the purpose of speeding up the cycle from a few millions of years to 50 thousand years, they were not created as a weapon, they were not created as battleships and definitely they were not created to defend organics from organic threats lets remember that in mass effect the masters of the galaxy are the reapers and after the end of every cycle, the reapers return to the intergalactic space beyond the outer rim to keep defend the galaxy from all extragalactic threats until the time to harvest advanced intelligent life comes again... My question is: Are the jordians from ME andromeda a race who scaped extinction from the milky way when the reapers attacked? they were preatty advanced too, they were able to terraform planets, and a single space station was able to create enough solid dark energy for it to spread across multiple solar systems creating a web wich made even short zero jumps a great risk

for whatever reasons... we can't deny project overlord's hybrid AI was far more dangerous and advanced than cortana or EDI ever were, being able to operate in multiple platforms at the same time, sharing this feat with cortana but vastly superior to hers, and raider/SAM somatically speaking work the same way as master chief/Cortana with the diferenco of SAM being capable of increasing rider's battle capabilities depending on the situation, not mentioning wneh sam is transfered to a pathfinder, he becomes part of their psychosomathic patterns, though not as dangerous as the project overlord's AI, SAM was the final product of it and the main goal of overlord's project and my best guess is that it was meant to be donated to the initiative by the illusive man to guide humanity's future if the reaper invasion was to succede, i guess the last one failed and went terminator due to the test subject being authist and the supposed to be AI being VI instead, it could have overwritten some of david's brain functions to accomplish its own while david's brain worked like an organic computer, leading to the corruption of both david's consciousness and the VI's Functions, most likely what would happen if you tried to ran 2 OS in the same PC, both crashed and created a virus, i doubt that would happen in real life if you ran 2 OS in the same PC but you get my point, though cortana is superior to SAM in her flexibility when it comes to changing platform, SAM is still more advanced technology which once it is inside your somethic patterns, he can alter your biology, though he can only operate in 2 platforms at a time: The drive core in the ark ship and the SAM implant in raider's head, unlike cortana, he still needs his physical drive to survive and can get damaged if its host dies without transfering him to another pathfinder outfited with the SAM implant which makes him extreamely fragile, if master chief had a SAM, he would be really OP!, i mean he is already a powerhouse... outfit him with an anatomy altering AI Implant and he might just become Hercule or Samson

So here is my idea of a perffectly OP character: Master Chief outfited with the doomslayer argent armor, Vanguard biotics and a SAM implant... Didact, beware!