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Both bloodlusted, standard equipment (what's in the picture) for each, to the death. Starting 20 feet apart.
Who wins?
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Both bloodlusted, standard equipment (what's in the picture) for each, to the death. Starting 20 feet apart.
Who wins?
Bloodlusted Conan can be very devastating to Ozymandias if he catches him, 20 feet apart chances are he wont.
Both are bloodlusted, we didn't even get to see a real bloodlusted version of Ozymandias yet, I'm gonna roll with him.
I think Ozymandias is faster, and more skilled, but definitely not stronger. It could go either way, but in the time it takes Conan to get to Ozymandias, and he's far more likely to just charge his opponent, Ozymandias will have thought up a plan to stop him, even just a simple one, and even in a bloodlusted state. Ozymandias is a genius, after all.
Ozymandias, bloodlusted. Hmm. He works out what Conan will do before he does it, then proceeds to stomp.
Bloodlusted Conan can be very devastating to Ozymandias if he catches him, 20 feet apart chances are he wont.
Both are bloodlusted, we didn't even get to see a real bloodlusted version of Ozymandias yet, I'm gonna roll with him.
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I think Ozymandias is faster, and more skilled, but definitely not stronger. It could go either way, but in the time it takes Conan to get to Ozymandias, and he's far more likely to just charge his opponent, Ozymandias will have thought up a plan to stop him, even just a simple one, and even in a bloodlusted state. Ozymandias is a genius, after all.
Fighting strategy is useless against Conan
need I post the quote again?
Fighting strategy is useless against Conan
need I post the quote again?
I can't see how fighting strategy could be useless at all, especially not that of a genius like Ozymandias. He remained completely untouched in a fight with both Niteowl and Rorschach, who both show superior fighting skills and resourcefulness to Conan, although they don't match his physical strength. Plus, he's considered the most physically capable and smartest man on the planet, in Watchmen. At the very least, Conan has a tough fight on his hands, and at worst, he will lose this.
Fighting strategy is useless against Conan
need I post the quote again?
I can't see how fighting strategy could be useless at all, especially not that of a genius like Ozymandias. He remained completely untouched in a fight with both Niteowl and Rorschach, who both show superior fighting skills and resourcefulness to Conan, although they don't match his physical strength. Plus, he's considered the most physically capable and smartest man on the planet, in Watchmen. At the very least, Conan has a tough fight on his hands, and at worst, he will lose this.
fair enough
Fighting strategy is useless against Conan
need I post the quote again?
I can't see how fighting strategy could be useless at all, especially not that of a genius like Ozymandias. He remained completely untouched in a fight with both Niteowl and Rorschach, who both show superior fighting skills and resourcefulness to Conan, although they don't match his physical strength. Plus, he's considered the most physically capable and smartest man on the planet, in Watchmen. At the very least, Conan has a tough fight on his hands, and at worst, he will lose this.
niteowl and rorschach show superior fighting skills to conan...? they both hardly have any hand to hand feats. while conan has decades of hand to hand feats.
guys ozy is severely outclassed here. Also the OP states that the gear they have is what's in the picture. conan has an axe, a sword, shield, and a knife? while ozy has his bare hands? lol this is a severe mismatch. conan would tear his limbs off.
@xeno_seeker: Conan also has that blonde as a morale bonus.
I think he is strong enough, fast enough, skilled enough to take it. Conan would stomp Rorschach and Nite Owl if he fought them. Conan probably finds this the easiest fight of his week.
Doubtful
@willpayton: When he is taking on ice giants, magical creatures and armies of the undead? You think Ozy is going to have him complaining?
guys ozy is severely outclassed here. Also the OP states that the gear they have is what's in the picture. conan has an axe, a sword, shield, and a knife? while ozy has his bare hands? lol this is a severe mismatch. conan would tear his limbs off.
Ozymandias caught a bullet. He also remained completely untouched in every fight we see him have, and, again, is considered the most intelligent and physically capable man on Earth. Axes and swords mean nothing to him.
This would be a goof fight for both men, but Ozymandias is much too fast for Conan, and his fighting skills and resourcefulness will make his victory all the more easy.
@silverrings: ozymandias is not too fast for conan. he takes down stronger creatures in groups on a day to day basis. ozy has near zero feats of combat tactics, meanwhile conan has hundreds. he remained untouched in every fight because his only real fight was him slapping around a fatigued Rorschach and a has been nite owl. if they were both unarmed it would be worth more debate but at the moment..
@silverrings: ozymandias is not too fast for conan. he takes down stronger creatures in groups on a day to day basis. ozy has near zero feats of combat tactics, meanwhile conan has hundreds. he remained untouched in every fight because his only real fight was him slapping around a fatigued Rorschach and a has been nite owl. if they were both unarmed it would be worth more debate but at the moment..
Ozymandias was fast, and smart, enough to catch a bullet. Conan is obviously not getting a hit in with any melee weapons.
@silverrings: that's his best showing, him catching a bullet (which is very impressive) but he's never handled this kind of agility, ferocity, strength, and combat prowess in a fight before. conan chases down horses, he can wrestle mammoths to the ground. ozymandias is an arrogant man. he will see conan as a muscle bound ape swinging around a sword. he will be taken by surprise and he will die.
Ozy is out of his league here. yes he is very fast and smart but Conan is also very and cunning in a battle environment. Conan is also freakishly durable and strong. he is definitely more so than base human and maybe even a step above Capitan america in that department. I cant see ozy doing anything to him that would put him down fast enough before Conan brutally removes his spine.
@silverrings: that's his best showing, him catching a bullet (which is very impressive) but he's never handled this kind of agility, ferocity, strength, and combat prowess in a fight before. conan chases down horses, he can wrestle mammoths to the ground. ozymandias is an arrogant man. he will see conan as a muscle bound ape swinging around a sword. he will be taken by surprise and he will die.
Actually, it seems much more likely that Conan will be taken by surprise since he will probably assume that Ozy is just a regular man. Odds are that he'll take a swing at Ozy and not be expecting the speed and strength of Ozy's reaction.
On the part of Ozy, I doubt he'd underestimate Conan... due to the obvious strength of his opponent, and the fact that he just looks like an experienced warrior.
So Ozy not only has speed as an advantage, but also the element of surprise.
@silverrings: that's his best showing, him catching a bullet (which is very impressive) but he's never handled this kind of agility, ferocity, strength, and combat prowess in a fight before. conan chases down horses, he can wrestle mammoths to the ground. ozymandias is an arrogant man. he will see conan as a muscle bound ape swinging around a sword. he will be taken by surprise and he will die.
What i've already said and what @willpayton said sums up why we think Ozymandias wins this, and is epitomized in this comment:
Ozymandias should be fine. If you can catch a bullet your not in that much danger from swords and axes.
This would be a good fight for both men involved, but Ozymandias would be able to overcome Conan's strength and ferocity eventually. It might take time, but he'll do it. He's just too fast and too smart for the barbarian.
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