@cadencev2: You took my example and not only ran with it, you hopped skipped and jumped, too. Kudos.
I miss playin warhammer 40K Table Top :(
Me too :(
I spent deployments of months at a time putting together, customising with green stuff and magnets, and painting to a great standard my entire 6000 Points of Chaos Marines. Then I spend months painting and basing over 200 Imperial Guard.
Would anyone here be able to answer my earlier question? What's the big difference between N52 Bane & The Old version of Bane?
New 52 Venom is more potent.
So he's still essentially got the same combat skills as his old form correct? If so I'd be able to provide more of an argument for the Bane side of things ^_^
His first appearance in new 52 was impressive. He stomped Batman, but Bats jobbed in that encounter, Bane was defeated by Batwoman several weeks ago.
Who had prep and a plot device specially made to take him down.
@cadencev2: You took my example and not only ran with it, you hopped skipped and jumped, too. Kudos.
I miss playin warhammer 40K Table Top :(
Me too :(
I spent deployments of months at a time putting together, customising with green stuff and magnets, and painting to a great standard my entire 6000 Points of Chaos Marines. Then I spend months painting and basing over 200 Imperial Guard.
Now all sold. All gone..... WHAT WAS I THINKING!
I had about a 3000 point Necron army...lost the majority of that in a house fire. I currently have a whole bunch of boxes of a Daemonhunters army...but all the guys i played with went and got themselves wives and kids and such
@cadencev2: True but the material also matters. The rock conan could be lifting looks like the same material they used to make the houses seen in that second scan (top panel). I doubt conan is a 5 tonner like bane.
@jashro44: I already told you that I know all of Bats speed feats, he's my favorite comic book character, his best speed feat I think is the one when he switched poisoned cups with the guy that wanted to kill him, I suppose you know what I'm talking about. The fact is that during Conan's time there were no bullets, so arrows are the fastest thing that he dodged, but he managed to evade bullets in WHAT IF stories.
Has Conan matched the feat with the cups or shown anything comparable? And even if we ignore batmans bullet timing feats for a second, has conan even moved faster then the human eye like batman has? Has he had fights so fast that people didn't even see the fights in question?
@cadencev2: You took my example and not only ran with it, you hopped skipped and jumped, too. Kudos.
I miss playin warhammer 40K Table Top :(
Me too :(
I spent deployments of months at a time putting together, customising with green stuff and magnets, and painting to a great standard my entire 6000 Points of Chaos Marines. Then I spend months painting and basing over 200 Imperial Guard.
Now all sold. All gone..... WHAT WAS I THINKING!
I had about a 3000 point Necron army...lost the majority of that in a house fire. I currently have a whole bunch of boxes of a Daemonhunters army...but all the guys i played with went and got themselves wives and kids and such
My wife was nice to let me play for a time with other men who had wives >_> Women.
@cadencev2: True but the material also matters. The rock conan could be lifting looks like the same material they used to make the houses seen in that second scan (top panel). I doubt conan is a 5 tonner like bane.
I myself consider it a 1 maybe 2 max ton feat.
Then he isn't as strong as bane.
Im not saying he is as strong, Im saying how weak sauce the Boulder Feat looks when Conan has a feat just like it (little less) with no Venom. :)
Not at all. You showed a Jumping feat, I showed a free fall feat. :) My point is the strength Bane used to jump is not one shotting the durability of that free fall.
@cadencev2: You took my example and not only ran with it, you hopped skipped and jumped, too. Kudos.
I miss playin warhammer 40K Table Top :(
Me too :(
I spent deployments of months at a time putting together, customising with green stuff and magnets, and painting to a great standard my entire 6000 Points of Chaos Marines. Then I spend months painting and basing over 200 Imperial Guard.
Now all sold. All gone..... WHAT WAS I THINKING!
I had about a 3000 point Necron army...lost the majority of that in a house fire. I currently have a whole bunch of boxes of a Daemonhunters army...but all the guys i played with went and got themselves wives and kids and such
My wife was nice to let me play for a time with other men who had wives >_> Women.
One of my buddies wives was fine for it...until she realized that "Playing 40k with the boys" actually meant "You won't see me for 16 hours"
Conan with no Venom can free fall onto a solid wood cart from a good 500 feet drop just fine.
Elasti girl of the Doom Patrol(the one who can grow dozens and hundreds of feet tall) picked up venom less Bane from the ground and tossed him as far as possible,Bane was unhurt.
Conan with no Venom can free fall onto a solid wood cart from a good 500 feet drop just fine.
Elasti girl of the Doom Patrol(the one who can grow dozens and hundreds of feet tall) picked up venom less Bane from the ground and tossed him as far as possible,Bane was unhurt.
Thats fine. My point was Conan can tank a Bane Punch. can Bane tank a Razor Sharpen Heavy Sword Swing from Conan's strength?
Not at all. You showed a Jumping feat, I showed a free fall feat. :) My point is the strength Bane used to jump is not one shotting the durability of that free fall.
A punch from Bane is going to stagger conan and leave him open for another, and many more punches. Not to mention Banes fighting style focuses around grapples and submission holds anyways.
Conan with no Venom can free fall onto a solid wood cart from a good 500 feet drop just fine.
Elasti girl of the Doom Patrol(the one who can grow dozens and hundreds of feet tall) picked up venom less Bane from the ground and tossed him as far as possible,Bane was unhurt.
Thats fine. My point was Conan can tank a Bane Punch. can Bane tank a Razor Sharpen Heavy Sword Swing from Conan's strength?
@cadencev2: True but the material also matters. The rock conan could be lifting looks like the same material they used to make the houses seen in that second scan (top panel). I doubt conan is a 5 tonner like bane.
@jashro44: I already told you that I know all of Bats speed feats, he's my favorite comic book character, his best speed feat I think is the one when he switched poisoned cups with the guy that wanted to kill him, I suppose you know what I'm talking about. The fact is that during Conan's time there were no bullets, so arrows are the fastest thing that he dodged, but he managed to evade bullets in WHAT IF stories.
Has Conan matched the feat with the cups or shown anything comparable? And even if we ignore batmans bullet timing feats for a second, has conan even moved faster then the human eye like batman has? Has he had fights so fast that people didn't even see the fights in question?
Yes, he has, I'll try to find scans, but he has sliced heads of 2 men at the same time before they could move, this happened on atleast 2 ocassions.
Conan with no Venom can free fall onto a solid wood cart from a good 500 feet drop just fine.
Elasti girl of the Doom Patrol(the one who can grow dozens and hundreds of feet tall) picked up venom less Bane from the ground and tossed him as far as possible,Bane was unhurt.
Thats fine. My point was Conan can tank a Bane Punch. can Bane tank a Razor Sharpen Heavy Sword Swing from Conan's strength?
He can just dodge it though.
lol, he won't dodge Conan's sword. Not when he's 6'8 and 350 lbs. Conan tanked mace hit straight to the head and continued with fight. He was shot with multiple arrows in his chest and he just pulled them out and continued to fight. If you've seen what Batman went through in Court of Owls labyrinth, that's nothing compared to what Conan has endured. He killed giant ape, who was 10 feet high, and the ape was tossing boulders bigger than Bane's at Conan.
I'm leaning towards Bane, but Conan's competence with a blade makes it difficult to commit.
Anybody have some feats featuring Bane vs. accomplished sword wielders? I think that would be more relevant than random strength and speed feats for this battle.
I'm leaning towards Bane, but Conan's competence with a blade makes it difficult to commit.
Anybody have some feats featuring Bane vs. accomplished sword wielders? I think that would be more relevant than random strength and speed feats for this battle.
pre 52 bane was able to dodge sword strikes from ubu. All though Bane has limited showings in the new 52.
Conan. He's a killer. A death machine. He's killed demons, countless armed and trained warriors, survived crucifixion (not even Jesus could do that), and killed the best fighters and swordsmen in the world. He's shrugged off blasphemous sorceries through sheer will alone, and bedded so many women it boggles the mind.
"But FEATS!!!!"
Oh shut up. For every Bane-did-this-"feat" I can name a Conan-"feat" that Bane hasn't done...it's a meaningless and subjective (look it up) comparison, at least in this specific case. Like, has Bane ever killed 2 Frost Giants after sustaining severe head trauma in an exhuasting battle AND after having run for miles through the Arctic Wasteland? No, he hasn't. He hasn't even killed one Frost Giant whle fully prepared and rested - pathetic. Neither has Batman, or Wolverine for that matter. Conan killed TWO of 'em. Easily.
Bane's a costumed, 'roided up criminal in tights. Conan's a barbaric killer and the pinnacle of a heritage of thousands of years of brutal war in the most violent and unforgiving environment possible.
Conan. He's a killer. A death machine. He's killed demons, countless armed and trained warriors, survived crucifixion (not even Jesus could do that), and killed the best fighters and swordsmen in the world. He's shrugged off blasphemous sorceries through sheer will alone, and bedded so many women it boggles the mind.
"But FEATS!!!!"
Oh shut up. For every Bane-did-this-"feat" I can name a Conan-"feat" that Bane hasn't done...it's a meaningless and subjective (look it up) comparison, at least in this specific case. Like, has Bane ever killed 2 Frost Giants after sustaining severe head trauma in an exhuasting battle AND after having run for miles through the Arctic Wasteland? No, he hasn't. He hasn't even killed one Frost Giant whle fully prepared and rested - pathetic. Neither has Batman, or Wolverine for that matter. Conan has.
Bane's a costumed, 'roided up criminal in tights. Conan's a barbaric killer and the pinnacle of a heritage of thousands of years of brutal war in the most violent and unforgiving environment possible.
@risingbean: Your logic is flawed, since attacks of opportunity can not be made by a flat-footed opponent. However, it is irrelevent -- Conan will get initiative, Bane will block the first few attacks with his arms, badly wounding them. Bane will then get Conan in a grapple, squeezing him around the chest. Conan then bites down onto his already-wounded forearms, tearing out thick strips of flesh and causing Bane to let him go. Conan then tumbles forward, recovering his sword, and whirls around with one single, decisive, beheading strike. And that, boys and girls, is Bane vs. Conan.
@cadencev2: True but the material also matters. The rock conan could be lifting looks like the same material they used to make the houses seen in that second scan (top panel). I doubt conan is a 5 tonner like bane.
@jashro44: I already told you that I know all of Bats speed feats, he's my favorite comic book character, his best speed feat I think is the one when he switched poisoned cups with the guy that wanted to kill him, I suppose you know what I'm talking about. The fact is that during Conan's time there were no bullets, so arrows are the fastest thing that he dodged, but he managed to evade bullets in WHAT IF stories.
Has Conan matched the feat with the cups or shown anything comparable? And even if we ignore batmans bullet timing feats for a second, has conan even moved faster then the human eye like batman has? Has he had fights so fast that people didn't even see the fights in question?
well, when he was 50+ and surprised
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With his back to the wall he faced the closing ring for a flashing instant, then leaped into the thick of them. He was no defensive fighter; even in the teeth of overwhelming odds he always carried the war to the enemy. Any other man would have already died there, and Conan himself did not hope to survive, but he did ferociously wish to inflict as much damage as he could before he fell. His barbaric soul was ablaze, and the chants of old heroes were singing in his ears.
As he sprang from the wall his ax dropped an outlaw with a severed shoulder, and the terrible back-hand return crushed the skull of another. Swords whined venomously about him, but death passed him by breathless margins. The Cimmerian moved in, a blur of blinding speed. He was like a tiger among baboons as he leaped, side-stepped and spun, offering an ever-moving target, while his ax wove a shining wheel of death about him."
in his prime
"
In an instant he was the center of a hurricane of stabbing spears and lashing clubs. But he moved in a blinding blur of steel. Spears bent on his armor or swished empty air, and his sword sang its death-song. The fighting-madness of his race was upon him, and with a red mist of unreasoning fury wavering before his blazing eyes, he cleft skulls, smashed breasts, severed limbs, ripped out entrails, and littered the deck like a shambles with a ghastly harvest of brains and blood.
also, he defeated a super-fast giant spider when he was 15 or so
Not at all. You showed a Jumping feat, I showed a free fall feat. :) My point is the strength Bane used to jump is not one shotting the durability of that free fall.
A punch from Bane is going to stagger conan and leave him open for another, and many more punches. Not to mention Banes fighting style focuses around grapples and submission holds anyways.
And Conan beats giant apes on fairly a regular basis
Conan. He's a killer. A death machine. He's killed demons, countless armed and trained warriors, survived crucifixion (not even Jesus could do that), and killed the best fighters and swordsmen in the world. He's shrugged off blasphemous sorceries through sheer will alone, and bedded so many women it boggles the mind.
"But FEATS!!!!"
Oh shut up. For every Bane-did-this-"feat" I can name a Conan-"feat" that Bane hasn't done...it's a meaningless and subjective (look it up) comparison, at least in this specific case. Like, has Bane ever killed 2 Frost Giants after sustaining severe head trauma in an exhuasting battle AND after having run for miles through the Arctic Wasteland? No, he hasn't. He hasn't even killed one Frost Giant whle fully prepared and rested - pathetic. Neither has Batman, or Wolverine for that matter. Conan has.
Bane's a costumed, 'roided up criminal in tights. Conan's a barbaric killer and the pinnacle of a heritage of thousands of years of brutal war in the most violent and unforgiving environment possible.
What exactly? Scan when he punched that man's head off was from King Conan Hour of the Dragon #2, and scans when he sliced these 2 men is from Conan Phantoms of the Black Coast #3.
I'm leaning towards Bane, but Conan's competence with a blade makes it difficult to commit.
Anybody have some feats featuring Bane vs. accomplished sword wielders? I think that would be more relevant than random strength and speed feats for this battle.
pre 52 bane was able to dodge sword strikes from ubu. All though Bane has limited showings in the new 52.
Here we go. He attacked faster than the human eye could follow.
@bigcimmerian: how is conan hour of the dragon? any good? i havent been picking them up... i just picked up conan the barbarian 18 or 19 the new issue this week and really wasnt happy with it, i thought it had poor art and coloring and even the story was dull what about the mini though?
@bigcimmerian: how is conan hour of the dragon? any good? i havent been picking them up... i just picked up conan the barbarian 18 or 19 the new issue this week and really wasnt happy with it, i thought it had poor art and coloring and even the story was dull what about the mini though?
Hour of the Dragon is one of the best Conan's comic book in years, but it's just my opinion. I agree, Conan the Barbarian is really bad, he is potrayed as some weak teenager suffering from anorexia.
Bane would win this pretty easy. He is also more durable than an average human so Conan wont slice of his arm because of his big muscles and hard skin protecting him.
He would just throw Conan into a wall and then curbstomp him.
@leonkarlen123 Yours is the dumbest comment I've ever encountered on these forums. Bane would get beaten bloody by fiction's greatest warrior, Conan of Cimmeria.
Yeah, this could be Conan O'brien the real life comic and he'd still win because he's fighting Bane. Losing is kinda what Bane does. Even if he were to get the upper hand he'd find a way to knock himself out. Bane is an appropriate name for him, because he's his own worst enemy.
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