#1 Edited by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

Ben 10,000 Vilgax with all the aliens fighting moves memorized and ropes and spikey bombs that shoot out his arm.

Regular Ben 10 Vilgax with bio booster arms.

Alien Force "Vilgax The Conquerer" with the alien weapons and powers. Vilgax is one of the most feared beings in the universe, having conquered 10 worlds, destroyed five planets, and created a black hole.

After acquiring Ascalon he gains a suit of knight armor. As he put it, he now felt like he had more power then ever before. His new power includes the ability to fire off shock waves and his original and absorbed powers were amplified greatly.

Lucubra Vilgax who could project and manipulate energy blasts from his hands and eyes, he can also move between Diagon's dimension and back to the same dimension at his will.

vs

savage hulk

world war hulk

world breaker hulk

round 1 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters and alien force powers and weapons vs savage hulk

round 2 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters, alien force powers and weapons and Ascalonvs wwhulk

round 3 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters, alien force powers and weapons, Ascalonand merged with lucubra vs world breaker hulk.

this is my first battle so dont yell out spite and such.

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#2 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3857 posts) - - Show Bio

Ascalon was capable of reshaping the entire universe and could pretty much cut through anything. That Vilgax could win but the rest die horribly I think

#3 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

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#4 Edited by dakkad00d (119 posts) - - Show Bio

I know little of Ben 10 but from reading the wiki you are linking I can conclude the following:

Hulk has some similarities with Humongousaur and WayBig.

Humungousaur and WayBig have faced Vilgax before, and the wiki marks that Way Big defeated him in episode "Primus".

Going by what feats I could gather I present the following:

H is clearly strong enough to lift a creature (Tyrannopede) several times (around 10 times by eyeballing it).

Hulk is seen holding 150 billion tons of mountain (he didn't lift it, but holding it is quite impressive).

The wiki states that WayBig has thrown enemies out of the planet and into orbit.

...something Savage hulk as done several times casually.

As for Lucubra, lets go ahead and quote the wiki directly:

Gwen states that it feeds on the part of the mind used to pray or meditate until there is nothing left of the victim's mind.

Besides Hulk showing numerous times that he is hard to mind control... a mind of pure Rage will be of no nourishment to the Lucubra, so I hardly think mental attacks/control will work on any version of Hulk.

Only Ascalon seems like a threat to Hulk (since it says that its misuse of it can destroy planets), but then again I lack the knowledge of either this is instant with a single punch, over time, or just by making the stronger user conquer said planet.

Worst case scenario for Hulk, Ascalon is planet buster in a single hit

WB Hulk is too, perhaps even with no punch needed

As a final conclusion, Vilgax doesn't look to be on par with Base/Savage Hulk, much less so the stronger incarnations, and only if we take the strongest possible interpretation of Ascalon is the SWORD a match for the Greenskin.

Having said that, I think I will look more into Ben 10, I can't turn down Dinosaur Aliens :P

#5 Edited by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

@dakkad00d:

who do you think will win the rounds:

round 1 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters and alien force powers and weapons vs savage hulk

round 2 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters, alien force powers and weapons and Ascalon vs world war hulk

round 3 Ben 10,000 Vilgax with bio boosters, alien force powers and weapons, Ascalon and merged with Lucubra vs world breaker hulk.

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#7 Edited by ShadowPro (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman said:

you guys are ben 10 fans if I remember right. what do you think of this fight?

you wanna know what do I think?

well, this is the first thinf that comes to mind

ok, first of all the "Word War Hulk" is the the green scar who is the same word breaker, now second of all

WORD BREAKER?

I mean

I mean, vilgax could give good fight against pretty much every hulk execpt for the world breaker, maybe if he holds himself back and uses the same strength level he used durng most of the word war hulk,

the only way these vilgax can win would it be only if they have the nigh omnipotent diagon vilgax,

but since you used the savage hulk... well let see

round 1: vilgax with the bio buster was already almost as stronge as hulk (am guessing 90 ton even though I know I sound like a hardcore fanboy) if we add those bio booster to the ben 10000 vilgax who was even stronger, and the strenght he ghained in AF a.k.a. superman-like powers and the darkseid-like laserbeam is a pretty much a stomp for him

round 2: I want to say vilgax... I really do... but that's a lie that not even I can tell. WB stomps so hard, that vilgax won't even get to feel the pain, unless ascalon has the diagon's powers, and therefore he also has the diagon's power and he could do pretty much anything, but I don't think that's the case

round 3: this one, he might actuallly give a fight, but word breaker is word breaker, so is the same, HULK SMASH

and that's what this ben 10 fanboy has to say, vilgax loses hulk wins 2 of 3

#8 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro:

round 2 is world war hulk, an this was the first thread I ever made so I didn't know a whole lot about hulk then

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#9 Posted by ShadowPro (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro:

round 2 is world war hulk, an this was the first thread I ever made so I didn't know a whole lot about hulk then

man, the name says it all is WORLD BREAKER, the only way vilgax could win is if he missuses the ascalon sword before he gets stopmped

#10 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

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@shadowpro:

round one is savage hulk

round 2 is World War Hulk

round 3 is World Breaker hulk

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#11 Edited by RBT (4074 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Round one goes to Bio boosters Vilgax. He's Ben's all aliens movement memorized. 10000 aliens each having lets say 20 moves, Vilgax has 200000 moves he can dodge. Seeing how many of Ben's alien include Heavy hitters like F-arms and H-saur, Vilgax will win this one.

Second will be close. World war hulk is really powerful. Could go either way.

Third only and only because of Lucubra Vilgax, if he manages to eat away Hulk's mind, which he can do seeing his powers, Team Vilgax can win, otherwise BAM!

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#12 Posted by RBT (4074 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Round one goes to Bio boosters Vilgax. He's Ben's all aliens movement memorized. 10000 aliens each having lets say 20 moves, Vilgax has 200000 moves he can dodge. Seeing how many of Ben's alien include Heavy hitters like F-arms and H-saur, Vilgax will win this one.

Second will be close. World war hulk is really powerful. Could go either way.

Third only and only because of Lucubra Vilgax, if he manages to eat away Hulk's mind, which he can do seeing his powers, Team Vilgax can win, otherwise BAM!

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#13 Posted by ShadowPro (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

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@shadowpro:

round one is savage hulk

round 2 is World War Hulk

round 3 is World Breaker hulk

the world war hulk and the wrold breaker are the same, there is absolutely no difference, in fact there is no "World War Hulk" persona, that's the name of the saga

#14 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman said:

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@shadowpro:

round one is savage hulk

round 2 is World War Hulk

round 3 is World Breaker hulk

the world war hulk and the wrold breaker are the same, there is absolutely no difference, in fact there is no "World War Hulk" persona, that's the name of the saga

really? oh? well...

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#15 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

I just been ratted out.... All well

- Most Vilgax versions haven't desplayed strength Lvls in the 150 billion category to they can't use strength against him. With Ascalon Vilgax versitilities The Vilgaxes best bets are round 2 and 3.

#16 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadowpro said:

@allstarsuperman said:

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@shadowpro:

round one is savage hulk

round 2 is World War Hulk

round 3 is World Breaker hulk

the world war hulk and the wrold breaker are the same, there is absolutely no difference, in fact there is no "World War Hulk" persona, that's the name of the saga

really? oh? well...

I would say Hulk 75%

#17 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

I've used composite vilgax several times, he lost maybe once, he is very good. He stops at wb maybe at WWHulk

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#20 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9485 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 2 and 3 could go to Vilgax.

#21 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16012 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I recall, isn't ascalon seriously op weapon, even by ben10 standards?

"Vilgax the conqueror", combined with it, should take care of hulk, at least..

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#23 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16012 posts) - - Show Bio
#24 Posted by RBT (4074 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Best I can do right now. http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Ascalon

2nd para of "back story."

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#26 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17271 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk

or hulks

#27 Edited by Bane_of_sith (2780 posts) - - Show Bio

There is to a difference between WWH and WBH ,,WWH was hulk at levels of strength and anger never seen, but he was still holding back,,WBH is him fully raging and so strong his footsteps threatened destruction of manhattan and shook the Easter seaboard,,when hulk goes "world breaker" it's entirely different

#28 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk

or hulks

round 1 vilgax vs savage hulk

round 2 WWH

round 3 WB hulk

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#29 Posted by AllStarSuperman (19985 posts) - - Show Bio

There is to a difference between WWH and WBH ,,WWH was hulk at levels of strength and anger never seen, but he was still holding back,,WBH is him fully raging and so strong his footsteps threatened destruction of manhattan and shook the Easter seaboard,,when hulk goes "world breaker" it's entirely different

that's what I though even back then, I just didn't know a lot to argue.

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#30 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17271 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

hulk

or hulks

round 1 vilgax vs savage hulk

round 2 WWH

round 3 WB hulk

he only has a shot in the first round, but with the way current hulk is portrayed, i doubt it.

The other two win. hulks i mean.

#31 Edited by MrPhoenix (312 posts) - - Show Bio