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Posted by k4tzm4n (41258 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yes, this is going to be a really fun melee to think about. It's time for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to take on Deadpool! The Turtles have been making an awesome return in IDW's reboot, eventually defeating the Shredder and taking on the likes of General Krang and Slash. Meanwhile, Deadpool's remaining hilarious and awesome in his new title over at Marvel, where he humiliated Batroc and took down the undead and amped U.S. Presidents.

But if these two sides clashed, who would win? Will numbers and teamwork eventually overcome a healing factor and skill edge? Before diving into the debate and casting your vote, there's a few key things I have to address for this one.

  • "Gregg, this fight is dumb. Deadpool can't die so he eventually wins!" Being unkillable doesn't make Wade unbeatable . In the CV Battle of the Week, knockout or temporary incapacitation count as a loss, so if the team can accomplish that, they'd technically be victorious.
  • "Deadpool has a gun. He shoots them. Game over, man!" In the IDW series, they've consistently shown the ability to deflect and dodge projectiles. So yeah, not that simple.
  • "Deadpool is a joke and can't fight." Sure, he tends to goof around from time to time, but the dude definitely has a slight skill edge over any of the Turtles in a 1v1 setting and his stats are above peak human.
  • And while we're talking about stats, it's worth noting the Turtles are also above peak human.
TMNT or Deadpool? You have until Friday morning to vote!

Comic Vine Battle of the Week Rules

  • Combatants are in character (both sides are current/standard versions).
  • This is a random encounter.
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated and at night. Assume they start roughly 25 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them.
  • All characters have standard gear.
  • Incapacitation, knockout or death all count as elimination.

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Voting will remain open until this Friday morning (ET) and a new article will go on the homepage shortly after. Please keep in mind voting remains open for four days so you can research the characters and read the debates presented for both sides. I know it's easy to vote for the side you like more, but please try to have adequate information on both sides before casting your vote.

Friday's update will include one Viner's argument for the winning team (only posts in the poll thread will be considered *link above* and it can't be a scan fest), the staff's thoughts and if we're extra lucky, thoughts from writers, artists and others in the industry! Viners, it's understandable that debates over "who would win?" can get heated, but please try to keep the conversations informative and not personal.

Feel free to make future match suggestions in the comments below or via Gregg's Twitter page.

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#1 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Deadpool would win due to his healing factor, but I'm no expert. Tough matchup, though.

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#2 Posted by angelalfonso (1011 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as i love the TMNT i have to go with deadpool

#3 Posted by Wolverine08 (41341 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry Turtles in a Half Shell, but the Merc With a Mouth is gonna kill y'all. The TMNT don't have the means to get past Deadpool's healing factor and put him down for the count. And if he's serious, he's probably a better fighter than all of the Turtles.

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#4 Edited by LifePool (135 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool splits a pizza with them. End of battle.

#5 Posted by OptimusPalm (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting battle. I need to do some research on whether Deadpool likes pizza or not.

But my thoughts so far tell me the turtles shouldn't be underestimated here. Their shells should prove uselful in defending themselves and each other.

I think the battlefield favours the turtles too. Downtown city area at night. Random encounter with a lot of cover means DP might not realise how many people he is up against right? Could one or two turtles sneak into the sewer and flank him? maybe...

Teamwork > insanity.

#6 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6666 posts) - - Show Bio

WOW Deadpool vs Turtles, never seen that battle.

@lifepool said:

Deadpool splits a pizza with them. End of battle.

and I agree.

#7 Posted by Jgames (1682 posts) - - Show Bio

Regenaration and guns will win this match.

#8 Posted by meatwadf (25 posts) - - Show Bio

The fact that he impressed Bullseye by dodging a rocket while driving a truck by swerving and having it pass through BOTH driver and passenger side windows shows Deadpool has the skills to pay the bills.

#9 Posted by Teerack (5900 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool would probably kill them one by one and eventually Raph would try to kill Deadpool, but wouldn't be able to so Deadpool wins.

#10 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33099 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Edited by vPuik (83 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the old saying applies here. Don't bring nunchucks to a gun fight.

#12 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (1862 posts) - - Show Bio

There are more deadpool fans than tmnt fans . Deadpool is obviously going to win .

#13 Posted by NightFang (9995 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Deadpool so much that i'm going with the Turtles.

#14 Edited by kostisfire (120 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the Turtles as much as the next guy but Wade takes this one. Although i bet that after telling a couple of jokes Mikey will take a liking to him and then they'll all go for pizza. Or Wade will murder them and take over the pizza place.

#15 Posted by 2BARQUACK (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I love both, I like to say Deadpool due to Healing Factor, but I think Donnie is smart enough to figure out perhaps win around his healing factor, but the rules was that this was a random fight, I would have to say Deadpool Wins, even without Guns, just due to his fighting nature and healing factor.

#16 Posted by RazzaTazz (9611 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Deadpool so much that i'm going with the Turtles.

Good point

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#17 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21770 posts) - - Show Bio

I called this I knew the opponents. Tmnt wins I would think. But I've never even read the new series. Dead pool will definitely win the vote though.

#18 Edited by RazzaTazz (9611 posts) - - Show Bio

There haven't been many (any?) female characters featured in these battles , have there?

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#19 Posted by Oscars94 (2480 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Deadpool wins, he has access to more weapons, e.g, guns, bombs etc. His healing factor helps too.

#20 Posted by k4tzm4n (41258 posts) - - Show Bio

There haven't been many (any?) female characters featured in these battles , have there?

X-23 was not only featured, but she demolished Snake Eyes, too.

I have plans for plenty, it's just a matter of time.

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#21 Posted by CuddlyPlane (84 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a tough one honestly, I am a huge deadpool fanboy and I love reading the new TMNT... If this is Deadpool going against all four turtles at once he's probably gonna struggle for the win, healing factor in mind, he's still going up against 4 ninja(turtles). I'd say this one is too close to call.

#22 Posted by MuyJingo (1675 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's crazy how much exposure the turtles get on this site. I don't recall it being established that they were peak human either, rather that was the opinion of someone who worked on the book.

It doesn't matter though. The turtles are not on the same level as DC/Marvel heroes like Batman or Deadpool, and paring them up is...odd.

Wade takes this, 7/10 times.

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#23 Edited by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

There won't be a battle. Michelangelo and Deadpool are going to be talking like morons to each other for HOURS while the other turtles are waiting nearby wondering if there was supposed to an actual fight or not. Then they decide to go home and enjoy some Michelangelo-free time while Deadpool and Mikey, still yammering, go out for a pizza. That's what I'm calling.

#24 Posted by dondave (36683 posts) - - Show Bio

There won't be a battle. Michelangelo and Deadpool are going to be talking like morons to each other for HOURS while the other turtles are waiting nearby wondering if there was supposed to an actual fight or not. Then they decide to go home and enjoy some Michelangelo-free time while Deadpool and Mikey, still yammering, go out for a pizza. That's what I'm calling.

#25 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool would be more willing to go for the kill, Deadpool also has explosives. Plus with the teleporter, Deadpool could get in some great sneak attacks and avoid being dog piled.

#26 Posted by hart7668 (2294 posts) - - Show Bio

Last time they faced Batman, another 4 v.1 I might add, they lost hideously. Why should anything change with Deadpool? Do the Ninja Turtles have any individual skill at all? Because if these dudes were peak 'human' and above, shouldn't they demolish a single peak human threat? I'm beginning to think that they would lose to any single street leveler on the block, from Captain America to Taskmaster to flipping Tim Drake. What's the point?

#27 Posted by xanthiss (177 posts) - - Show Bio

How many years are they going to be teenagers? :oD

#28 Edited by k4tzm4n (41258 posts) - - Show Bio

@xanthiss said:

How many years are they going to be teenagers? :oD

Ha! To be fair, the IDW Turtles is a complete reboot.

@hart7668 said:

Last time they faced Batman, another 4 v.1 I might add, they lost hideously. Why should anything change with Deadpool? Do the Ninja Turtles have any individual skill at all? Because if these dudes were peak 'human' and above, shouldn't they demolish a single peak human threat? I'm beginning to think that they would lose to any single street leveler on the block, from Captain America to Taskmaster to flipping Tim Drake. What's the point?

Batman is more skilled, more focused and has a greater variety of gear than Deadpool. In that same segment, I also said Batman would defeat Deadpool.

Yes, of course the ninja turtles are skilled, they just aren't as skilled as top-tier martial artists from the big two. I'd recommend checking out the poll thread -- there's already some good posts being made in there.

Also, that's merely my opinion on how the fight would go down. I'm sure many disagree!

@godtriggerhulk said:

Deadpool would be more willing to go for the kill, Deadpool also has explosives. Plus with the teleporter, Deadpool could get in some great sneak attacks and avoid being dog piled.

Current Deadpool does not have a teleporter. I do think it's fair to say he has a grenade or two on him, though!

@miss_garrick said:

There won't be a battle. Michelangelo and Deadpool are going to be talking like morons to each other for HOURS while the other turtles are waiting nearby wondering if there was supposed to an actual fight or not. Then they decide to go home and enjoy some Michelangelo-free time while Deadpool and Mikey, still yammering, go out for a pizza. That's what I'm calling.

That'll drive Raph CRAZY.

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#29 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

I would side with Deadpool more often than not.

Holographic Projector can give the TNMT quite a bit to worry about, as Deadpool could be anyone at any time.. Over and above this Deadpool often carries explosives on him, and his standard equipment is pretty ridiculous. Over and above this, the guy has been shown to pull weapons literally out of nowhere (I think it's actually done via the teleportation device made by Weasel, but there's always the possibility he has a magic satchel up his anus).

Deadpool is a top tier marksman, and has a host of guns to give him the mid-long range advantage. He could pretty quickly whittle down that numbers advantage and take out 1-2 turtles before they have a chance to close on him. Over and above this, when facing overwhelming forces, Deadpool has been known to keep his distance, and when he feels overwhelmed he has used his teleportation device to get away. A short ranged teleportation could put him anywhere around the turtles and let him ambush them with a host of gunfire. He's used this to get away from Holocaust, and the Hulk in the past, as well as a few others.

If one or two turtles happen to come up on him in melee combat, Deadpool's no slouch. With one sword he took down an armed and armored Taskmaster with ease, and that was without his healing factor. Over and above this he's a sleight of hand expert, and has been known to drop grenades at his own feet to take out his opponents. Now some people will be tempted to say such a ploy wouldn't work on the TMNT, but Deadpool has pulled this stunt on Wolverine, who has a level of senses well above the turtles, and is at least as skilled if not more skilled than them.

Overall, I think Deadpool can use his host of other advantages to overcome the numbers advantage given by the turtles.

Thanks for reading,

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#30 Posted by MyNameWasDeleted (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@xanthiss said:

How many years are they going to be teenagers? :oD

are we talking human years or turtle years???

#31 Posted by Captainamerica119 (200 posts) - - Show Bio

Patriot could beat TMNT and he sucks ass. Deadpool would destroy them

#32 Posted by manwithoutshame (654 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool is a moron and is easily outwitted, Donatello will see to that.

As far as fighting skills he's not much to look at either. His healing factor is his undoing, as he's not learned to properly fight and routinely gets destroyed by C-Grade Marvel villains.

Deadpool's humor can be viewed as a strength and is neutralized by Michelangelo.

In the end, it comes down to a sword fight, and once again Leonardo has been trained to use his weapons properly. He's more skilled, disciplined, and a great leader. He will exploit Deadpool's weaknesses, which are many, and the Turtles will be victorious.

#33 Edited by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

@manwithoutshame said:

Deadpool is a moron and is easily outwitted, Donatello will see to that.

As far as fighting skills he's not much to look at either. His healing factor is his undoing, as he's not learned to properly fight and routinely gets destroyed by C-Grade Marvel villains.

Deadpool's humor can be viewed as a strength and is neutralized by Michelangelo.

In the end, it comes down to a sword fight, and once again Leonardo has been trained to use his weapons properly. He's more skilled, disciplined, and a great leader. He will exploit Deadpool's weaknesses, which are many, and the Turtles will be victorious.

Interesting and good points.


Can't they trick him into a cage or tie him up?

#34 Posted by NateCMurray (1 posts) - - Show Bio

TMNT of course!

#35 Posted by zoronoa (12 posts) - - Show Bio

@lifepool said:

Deadpool splits a pizza with them. End of battle.

agree with this one

#36 Edited by Jaydarocknrolla (90 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda want the Turtles to win here,I don't see how deadpool has a skill advantage but I do see him coming right back from their worst shots. Unless they immediately dismembered him Deadpool wins because he's going for killshots everytime.

#37 Edited by War Killer (20152 posts) - - Show Bio

I give this to the Turtles. They don't have to kill Deadpool to win, plus with four-on-one I can see them overpowering Wade long enough for one of them (or all) to shut the Merc with a Mouth down. The only thing I could see that would give Wade the edge in this fight is for the Turtles to underestimate Deadpool thus lowering their guard, allowing Wade to get the upper hand.

#38 Edited by Hawkguy (571 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally a chance for Mikey to be the star. Let's face it gents, deadpool kills everyone but mikey and the two have a staredown/witty comment battle. If there's one thing deadpools healing factor can't fix its losing a banter battle.

But in all seriousness, I'm gonna wait for feats and arguments, atm its just too close to call. Whoever it was that said they'd all just split a pizza, that sounds about right.

#39 Posted by wmwadeii (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

too hard to choose....

#40 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n:

which is why it was a good idea for Donny and Leo to convince him to come home with them and enjoy those Mikey free hours. It would be very spiritually cleansing and Raph would very likely feel more Zen with the world, at least until Mikey comes home, then it's status quo.

#41 Posted by comicace3 (4887 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna go with TMNT there teamwork alone would make the merc with a mouth shut up and fight seriously. They'd give a good fight winning 6/10 times.

#42 Edited by blkson (785 posts) - - Show Bio

I think all of those TV shows ruined the Turtles because people think that they have some kind of moral code against killing.

#43 Posted by Chibio (920 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe that the Turtles have never faced someone like Deadpool, who tends to use the entire environment in order to get the upper hand. Every time the Turtles fight it's in a straight up battle and very often it's against narrow-minded people, who are vastly inferior in terms of the overall skill.

Deadpool on the other hand would realize that he wouldn't be able to take them all down in a straight up battle, even though I do see him taking one or two down, when he combines his sword attacks with machine guns at close range. The turtles are not dodging that. Additionally to that I see Deadpool running away from them and encouraging them to follow him. He could place explosives everywhere and even though the Turtles might be able to jump away and avoid most of the damage, I see Deadpool predicting that and being at the right place at the right time for the killing blow.

#44 Edited by BR_Havoc (1286 posts) - - Show Bio

Well this is an interesting match up. I am actually going to go with the Turtles for the numbers game and the fact they work as a team. I mean they could distracted Deadpool enough for Donnie to trap him with some gizmo.

#45 Posted by Chibio (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool is a moron and is easily outwitted, Donatello will see to that.

As far as fighting skills he's not much to look at either. His healing factor is his undoing, as he's not learned to properly fight and routinely gets destroyed by C-Grade Marvel villains.

Deadpool's humor can be viewed as a strength and is neutralized by Michelangelo.

In the end, it comes down to a sword fight, and once again Leonardo has been trained to use his weapons properly. He's more skilled, disciplined, and a great leader. He will exploit Deadpool's weaknesses, which are many, and the Turtles will be victorious.

And I have to disagree with absolutely everything you just stated. It's a heavily biased post against Deadpool and it's obvious that you don't know the character at all and it's unfortunate that you're spreading lies.

Marvel has few top assassins with Taskmaster and Bullseye both being in the top 3. Deadpool has taken out both of them, multiple times, sometimes even without any real problems. Deadpool also faced Wolverine more than once and Wolverine is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. Deadpool came out on top. Deadpool has also defeated Captain America at least twice!

Deadpool also came up with few genius masterplans, which fooled / tricked / whatever everyone. He is not a moron. When it comes to preparation and fighting he can do some crazy stuff.

His healing factor enchances everything he does. Especially his stamina and durability and even his strenght is - as Katzman has mentioned it - above a peak human, so he is stronger than Batman / Captain America etc.

Deadpool has overall competed against people who are vastly more skilled than the Ninja Turtles, who are mainly trained in Nin-jitsu and guess what, Deadpool as an assassin proved over and over again that he is as sneaky and as trained as a ninja.

#46 Posted by DKing_CiCADA (340 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Deadpool only because he is a big fan of TMNT and would kidnap April

#48 Edited by TheDoctorMate (1 posts) - - Show Bio

For me it would have to be Deadpool.

I think 4 turtles vs 1 Deadpool is a very close match in terms of skill, and I think the fight would be very close with heavy blows coming from each side. I have to say Deadpool though because of his healing factor, I understand that if he's knocked out, he's out, but let's say Leo slices him - DP has a bit of a healy going on here, whereas if Deadpool shoots one of them, the wound's gonna stick for the rest of the fight.

In any event, this would be an amazing fight to see, and the "one-liner" battle between Mikey and Wade would be just as awesome to see as the fight itself.

#49 Posted by thenexusrebound (244 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with a couple of others as soon as DP and Mikey start talking the fighting is over. Plus the battles aren't always too the death, in this instance it is until the need for fast food is met.

#50 Posted by Nerd Of A Hero (862 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Deadpool so much that i'm going with the Turtles.

Love this comment but I doubt they'd win against Deadpool