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Posted by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

Two of the coolest characters from my childhood are about to face-off. In one corner, we have a physically formidable alien which thrives on hunting anything and everything across the cosmos. In the other corner, we have a veteran bounty hunter from the Star Wars universe. Both are quite tactical and sporting a super awesome array of weaponry, but who will be the one to walk away from this encounter? Will the Predator add Fett's head and helmet to his collection or will Boba Fett turn the hunter into the hunted? Or, could this possibly be too close to call?

I suppose it's worth noting these characters are much more impressive in the comics than they are in the films. I know it's tempting to vote based on "Predator lost to Danny Glover" or "Boba Fett lost to a blind Han Solo," but try to cast your vote after researching both combatants. Whether it's through reading the debate as it progresses during the week or through seeking out comics with the characters, please try your best to cast an educated vote. Ultimately, you're free to vote based on whatever reasons you want, but you can't blame me for asking, right?

Comic Vine Battle of the Week Rules

  • Combatants are in character.
  • This is a random encounter (aka neither side has pre-existing knowledge of their enemy).
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated and at night and all standard city lights remain on. Assume they start roughly 50 feet apart and visible. However, there's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc.
  • Both characters have standard gear (but no access to their standard vehicles).
  • Seeing as there have been so many different Predators, assume this one is well-trained and experienced but not an Elite/Elder.
  • Incapacitation, knockout or death all count as elimination.

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Ladies and gentlemen, you have until this Friday morning (ET) to research the characters, debate and cast your vote! As always, Friday's update will include one Viner's argument for the winning character (only posts in the poll thread will be considered and they can't include scans *link above*), the staff's thoughts and if we're extra lucky, thoughts from writers, artists and others in the industry (spoiler: one writer has already provided a blurb)! Viners, it's understandable that debates over "who would win?" can get heated, but please try to keep the conversations informative and not personal.

Feel free to make future match suggestions in the comments below or via Gregg's Twitter page.

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#1 Posted by Saren (25618 posts) - - Show Bio

Boba Fett's name always reminds me of this dude.

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#2 Posted by ShadowX (1218 posts) - - Show Bio

Intresting. I don't know much about either perapn besides a few movies. So i'm excited to see The debate

#5 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (24150 posts) - - Show Bio

I will definitly be making a case for Boba later :D

#6 Posted by Mezmero (921 posts) - - Show Bio

Might be too close to call. I'm going to have to think about this.

#7 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33071 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n by visible do you mean Predator cant cloak or that he just doesn't start cloaked?

#8 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning towards Fett due to his ability for flight and his arsenal seems to be a little better than Predators.

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#9 Posted by The Stegman (23990 posts) - - Show Bio

Are we using EU feats? If so, then I can't comment, but going purely on movies, I'd give predator the win, Fett was not impressive at all.

#10 Posted by BR_Havoc (1286 posts) - - Show Bio

If were going from the movies Boba Fett was useless so Predator could beat him easily heck he could do it blind :p

#11 Posted by AlKusanagi (602 posts) - - Show Bio

If the novels and comics count, then Fett takes this easily. Predators are pretty much intergalactic jobbers.

#12 Posted by Overlander (483 posts) - - Show Bio

No contest...
Boba Fett


#13 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Ummmm this needs to be addressed, what Predator are we using?! There is major difference in gear and skill between Bloodied, Unbloodied, Veteran, Warrior, ect.... Also unlike Boba who has a steady line of Feats, are we using a Combination of the Predators who have basically one movie and one shot comics? There is no real standing list of a single Predator.

Let me know please.

#14 Posted by Fetts (4449 posts) - - Show Bio

OH HECK YES! @k4tzm4n You're da best man!

#15 Posted by dondave (36590 posts) - - Show Bio

@fetts said:

OH HECK YES! @k4tzm4n You're da best man!

I knew you'd be happy about this battle

#16 Edited by k4tzm4n (40826 posts) - - Show Bio

Are we using EU feats? If so, then I can't comment, but going purely on movies, I'd give predator the win, Fett was not impressive at all.

Yes, we are. Second paragraph, man ;)

@fetts said:

OH HECK YES! @k4tzm4n You're da best man!

Hah, thanks :D

@k4tzm4n by visible do you mean Predator cant cloak or that he just doesn't start cloaked?

The Predator does not begin with cloaking activated. That said, there's nothing stopping it from doing so immediately after the match starts.

@k4tzm4n: Ummmm this needs to be addressed, what Predator are we using?! There is major difference in gear and skill between Bloodied, Unbloodied, Veteran, Warrior, ect.... Also unlike Boba who has a steady line of Feats, are we using a Combination of the Predators who have basically one movie and one shot comics? There is no real standing list of a single Predator.

Let me know please.

  • Seeing as there have been so many different Predators, assume this one is well-trained and experienced but not an Elder.

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#17 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@fetts said:

OH HECK YES! @k4tzm4n You're da best man!

This could be the biggest mismatch, in favor of Boba, yet on Comicvine by votes. Depending on the Predator Feats and Gear we are allowed to debate.

I also cannot think of any good Predator Debators on this sight still....

@jwalser3 @nick_hero22 @misterwhisper I think have good knowledge on Predators.

#18 Posted by The Stegman (23990 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@the_stegman said:

Are we using EU feats? If so, then I can't comment, but going purely on movies, I'd give predator the win, Fett was not impressive at all.

Yes, we are. Second paragraph, man ;)

For some reason, I totally glossed over that, lol, okay, I may have to do some Fett research then.

#19 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Ok so a Bloodied at least, Elites at most then.

I will say Predator has a very good chance.

@fetts Ready to go bro!? :)

#20 Posted by IDontLikeBirds (299 posts) - - Show Bio

I can not decide, but this battle is still bad ass.

#21 Posted by MuyJingo (1650 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know the characters outside of movies, but it seems like predator has better tech, and is bigger and stronger. Since neither characters seem to be adept at h2h, this gives predator a large advantage.

More importantly, the predators entire culture is based around hunting and fighting. For Boba it's just a job.

#22 Posted by Cassius_Knightfall (8000 posts) - - Show Bio

EU Fett has defeated Jedi and stood up to Vader either of which would do serious damage to any Predator. Movie Fett was cheapshotted out of the franchise but Predators have been beaten by humans with guns on numerous occasions in their expanded canon.

Fett is far more of a threat than Butch was in terms of weaponry and he has gear that makes him closer to the Predators match with various visual modes and his jetpack. Throw in that the predator isnt an elder and Bobbas armor appears to be pretty darn close to predators own if not better for durability gotta give the win to Fett 7 out of 10

#23 Posted by _Cerberus_ (3444 posts) - - Show Bio

Close but I'd give a slight edge to the predator due to having a better physical advantage over Boba

in everything else they should be equal (Predator is less resistant to Boba's weapons tho)

#24 Posted by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

Boba Fett Wins!

#25 Posted by MisterWhisper (1892 posts) - - Show Bio

Both of them have the weaponry at bast to kill the other. The Yautja, would be better off with the speargun or the Chakram, than using the plasma caster. Boba also carries gear that can kill a Yautja in a hit or two.

Starting off in visible range makes it interesting. The Yautja shoulder cannon or plasma caster is vision linked and auto targeting so I could see the Yautja getting off the first shot, not a gaurenteed hit, but at least it will make Boba have to dodge.

Their will be massive explosions for about 4 seconds and then it will turn into a game of cat and mouse.

The Yautja:

Pro:

While much larger than a normal human, they are experts at stealth, as well as faster, stronger, tougher, and have better reactions. Their various vision modes also means that they have a multitude of way to detect an enemy. While they do not know anything about the other, it will be a little easier for an experienced Yautja to predict Fett than the other way around.

Con:

Most Yautja tend to just use a breastplate and leg plates on the thighs for armor. However some, like Dachande did have full armor. I would assume that this one would have the normal armor not the heavy armor, which leaves most of their arms, legs, and stomach open.

Boba:

Pro:

No question that he has impressive gear, and skills. His weapons are probably more destructive, and his armor covers more than a normal Yautja's armor does. Better weapon's as far as area of effect and better armor is going to be a huge advantage. From everything I have seen, I also can say that against a non-named Yautja, Fett is going to be the better strategist.

Con:

Lack of knowledge could hurt, it depends on if Fett has something to detect through the stealth tech, and if he uses the correct sensors. Getting into melee range would also be a very bad idea. Also Fett has been known to go to a flame thrower if things get close, he will not know that a flame thrower is not a great weapon against a Yautja, and that little mistake could get him killed.

In the end it will come down to:

Can the Yautja sneak up on, or close with Fett, or can Fett use superior area attacks and strategy to take out the Yautja before it is too late.

My vote would go to the Yautja, but only 6 maybe 7 out of 10.

If they had info on each other first, you could just switch those numbers.

#26 Posted by Street_Samurai (320 posts) - - Show Bio

A case could be made for either... It really depends on which versions are being used... Movie versions, Predator wins most likely... EU vs Dark Horse Publishing... My money would be on Boba pulling it off somehow.

#27 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me start and say this could be a very close match. Honestly there is nothing Predator has done that Fetts could not do. However Predator has many ways to deal with feats and raw Physical Stats is a huge hurtle.

Strength of a Predator varies Greatly however has a steady showing of around 2-3 tons. They have ripped Tank Armor up with their Strength and claws. They easy overpower and throw around ton heavy Bison like rag dolls. They regularly beat 2-3 Xenomorphs in H2H Combat. They are beast.

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Throws a Bison around like a rag doll.

Ripping Spines form the body with ease.

Rips apart a Copter with Hands and Claws.

Rips open Tank Armor.

Smashes through poured Concrete walls easy.

Rips open steel door!

Very Strong.

Durability wise they can Anti Vehicle fire and still keep fighting. They have very strong armor on what they do pack that stops M-16 fire like nothing.

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Tanks a Bazzoka in the face.

Missile from a Copter!

A String of Frag Grenades in the face!

If they can tank this level of Explosions, they can tank most of Boba's Armament.

We also have Speed advantage of the Pred. Sure Boba is very fast to H2H Jedi Knights, the Predator is fast enough to fight hordes of Super Fast Xenomorphs.

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They can leap Buildings and keep up with a speeding sports car.

Keeping up with hordes of Aliens in many novels and Comics and Movies!

They have the Gear.Predators Helemts has X-Ray, Heat Vision, Ultra Light modes, and even Sonar.

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Switching Vision Modes till they see foot prints.

Switching Vision Modes till reaching Ultra Violet Light!

Sonar used to find a Heart Beat.

X-Ray to see a Pregnant Woman's fetus.

They can also break down the info of weapons with a glance.

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Both Examples of determining Weapons and Armor!

On top of this is the Standard Gear we see.

This is actually very standard gear.

Plasma Caster is a weapon that can burn your skin or blow a tank apart! Depends on the charge.

Blows apart a Attack Chopper!

The Speargun and Combi Staff are pretty straight forward.

The Smart Disc is a weapon that cuts through layers of steal with ease and has a Homing tracker built into it!

Best weapon ever!

They also carry the Net Launcher that can cut Humans to pieces.

This Net can be used as a Invisible Net Trap.

You also have Laser Net Mines which will cut through just about anything.

It can also map a area.

Their gear also absorbs forms of Electricity with no Problems.

Making Electric Attacks worthless.

All this useful weapon Gear can easy take down even the Fett and give Predator a unique chance to make traps as well if he decides to cut and run, which is very much in character.

Speaking of one last thing is a Predators Skill. The Predators are warriors born, train to fight and win since birth in tribal customs. These are beings were the weakest and unbloodied Predators have taken down whole Squads of Earths Special Forces by itself!

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They constantly engage in brutal fights.

They are always hunting the biggest game in the Universe.

Sometimes they will invade a Alien Hive and capture its Queen Alien to make sport!

A Bloodied or Elite Predator can definitely out skill Boba Fett here.

#28 Posted by Deadknight (636 posts) - - Show Bio

Standard gear:

  • Boba Fett: armor, head-up display visor, jetpack, rocket launchers, blasters, flame-thrower
  • Predator: plasma caster gun, invisibility cloak, mask with multiple spectrum views, combi-staff, shuriken-like Smart Discs, wrist gauntlet claws - also includes medpack and self-destruct device

This definitely seems like a very well-balanced battle between these combatants, skill-wise as well as equipment wise. I could see Fett having some advantage with his jetpack and rockets launchers - he could even mess a little with the Predator's infrared vision through the use of his flame-throwers. He's also much more direct in his fighting style than most Predators who tend to try and drag out a fight with a skilled opponent. Fett would shoot as soon as he realized that the Predator was looking for a fight. And for all we know, Fett's Mandalorian armor could actually be resistant to Predator Plasma Casters, but Predator blades, Smart Discs, and Combi-staffs would probably be able to pierce it. A Predator's cloak might even be pointless since I think Fett's visor is supposed to allow him to see in different visual spectrums.

In a way we have the sci-fi equivalent of ninja(Predator) vs samurai(Boba Fett). Predators are tough, but focus on stealth tactics at first. Boba Fett on the other hand is well armored and armed, and will go both in and out of a fight with guns blazing.

The way I see this fight going:

Fight begins slow with the Predator hiding from Fett and stalking him to evaluate his skills. Without other prey present however, the Predator has nothing but itself to test Fett with. As soon as Fett spots the Predator or the Predator makes an attack of any kind - Fett will leap into action with whatever he deems necessary. He could toss a missile the Predator's way, or take the high ground with his jetpack and shoot from above with his blasters. The Predator will most likely evade a missile explosion or Fett's gunfire, and if he's flying then Fett simply becomes an open target. The Predator could respond with his Plasma Caster and shoot at Fett, either disabling his jetpack in the process or at least giving Fett incentive to stay grounded. Fett will try to track the Predator, who as always tries to evade and stalk its prey. If he gets aggravated enough, Fett could probably level and buildings and burn and foliage to keep the Predator from hiding. The Predator will definitely retaliate and could throw its Combi-staff at Fett. I'm unsure of Fett's reflexes and spatial awareness, but I see him at least getting stabbed in the arm by the staff, even if he does try to evade. An injury like that will only piss off Fett however, and he'll probably start shooting relentlessly. If the Predator finally decides to get up close and personal with its blades then Fett might not have much of a chance in close quarters. An ambush from a Predator would be nearly impossible to see coming, so Fett's gunfire might come too late and his flame-thrower would be a bad choice. Fett might be a skilled fighter, but I don't see him standing up well to a Predator's strength, speed, and blades. In this case I would see it as the Predator's win.

I'm more familiar with Predators than I am with Boba Fett unfortunately, so I could be underestimating his skills. He could certainly track a Predator well with his visor if it sees in the proper visual spectrums. He could definitely come out on top given the proper conditions, although I'm quite uncertain just how effective his blasters would be against a hardy opponent like a Predator, which have frequently shrugged of countless bullet wounds and other injuries. I could definitely see Fett even using some of the Predator's weapons against it if he got his hands on any of it.

In the end though, I'm going to have to give this match to the character I'm more familiar with, and so I simply see the Predator coming out on top, albeit at a very narrow margin. Even if Boba Fett beat the Predator, it would simply take both of them out with its self-destruct device - defeat for Fett, but an honorable death for the Predator.

Personally though, I think this version I edited together would be more accurate (note the missing mandible):

#29 Edited by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

#30 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@doomnaut: Our picture of Predator winning are way better looking :)

#31 Posted by Kerrigan (227 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome choice. I have no idea who to vote for.

#32 Posted by Street_Samurai (320 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: I agree with this... If it is a blooded Predator with a decent amount of experience Boba Fett would be very hard pressed to pull out a win... Not that I think it would be a stomp... If it was an Elder then yes he would be totally screwed, IMHO.

#33 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@doomnaut said:

Boba Fett Wins!

Im pretty sure the whole Darth Vader Battle was Non Canon with the Establish Canon.

#34 Edited by Fetts (4449 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: I just gave my analysis in the voting thread ;)

#35 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@fetts said:

@cadencev2: I just gave my analysis in the voting thread ;)

Cool. See ya in a sec.

#36 Posted by kcvic (44 posts) - - Show Bio

If boba goes all out he has a chance the longer the fight the less chance he has ....against a veteran predator zero chance....standard equipment on both predator wins ..if boba packs and whips out a light saber and then flies away before the explosion he wins

#37 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Very good match up indeed. I will close my last thoughts on this battle myself.

Boba Fett is the best in the galaxy at what he does, he has beaten some of the craziest odds as well. His gear on paper may look superior, however I never seen Fetts take on a being with the skills, stats, and gear load out of a Bloodied Predator.

Skill:

Lets look at skills first. Boba Fett was train as a child by Jango and then Pirates during the Clone Wars. He has alot of self teaching in his life. He has experience with beating average Jedi. However the Elite Predator has been fighting over 100+ years the biggest game and threats in the galaxy with handicaps! They have train and breath a society from birth how to hunt and kill the greatest prey offered. They are on top of the food chain in the Galaxy. Boba does not regularly match to that on a daily basis.

Predator 6/10.

Stats:

This is a no brainer. Boba is peak human all around. Predator is a easy 2-3 toner with much more stamina. Predator can shrug off lethal wounds and fight at top performance. Boba has Armor that boost his durability chances, however so does Predator. Speed wise Boba has the Reflex speed to fight Jedi, Predator has Reflex to match 5-10 Xeno Morphs at the same time. Boba can fly for Air Superiority. Predator can Climb solid Concrete walls, runs fast as a Sports Car in a sprint, and jump 20-30 at a time.

Predator 9/10

Weapons and Gear:

This is what it may come down to. Boba has a Helmet that will negate Predator Invisibility. However Predator has a Helmet that can identify and work out all the gear and weapons on Boba, as I shown through feats above. Boba is like wise clueless to most of the gear Predator has while Predator has seen everything Boba is packing already in his hunts. Close Combat is a no brainer, Predator wins out right. He has Molecular Claws that will rend Boba's armor and a long reaching Staff that punctures steel. Range is not so one sided either. In this match we are fighting in a place of buildings and obstacles. Boba has one missile, Predator can tank that as feats above showed. Boba has a Disintegration Blaster, Pred has the same in his Plasma Caster which blows apart Space Ships, Jeeps, and Choppers in one blast. Boba has really nothing else where Predator still has Spear Gun, Net Launcher to ground Boba, and the Smart Disc. The Smart Disc alone will track Boba through the air and chop him in half in one go. It auto returns to Predator meaning he can throw the disk and blast at Boba at the same time. Also Predator has the Laser Net Grid to plant all over the Buildings, further reducing Boba's flight ability! This means Boba's flight is not all that special here with Smart Discs, all the various range weapons, and Laser Grid Mines of Predator.

Predator 7/10

All in all Predator wins handily as Boba has no experience or showings against a being like Predator, much less the caliber of Predator we are using here who is leagues superior to the Predator of the first and second movies.

#38 Posted by Cavemold (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

i think ill give to the predator

#39 Edited by AlKusanagi (602 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman beat down Predators with a Louisville Slugger. Fett has killed Jedi, squared off with Vader, survived things no one else in the universe has, and leads an entire planetary warrior culture.

Hell, Fett is the Batman of the Star Wars universe. And if this site has taught me anything, it's that Batman never loses in any scenario ever.

#40 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@alkusanagi said:

Batman beat down Predators with a Louisville Slugger. Fett has killed Jedi, squared off with Vader, survived things no one else in the universe has, and leads an entire planetary warrior culture.

Hell, Fett is the Batman of the Star Wars universe. And if this site has taught me anything, it's that Batman never loses in any scenario ever.

Ummm... Batman lost to Predator badly, and Batman used a half butt Insider suit too boot. Predator nearly killed Batman in the first Comic Crossover, only another Predator saved Batman because Batman stood no chance.

Batman gets his butt kicked easy. Runs away.

Batman returns with Insider suit, still runs away!

Predator follows Batman back to the Bat Cave. Ambushed by Alfred with a weapon, fights Insider Suit wearing Batman again. Then is killed by Fellow Predators for fighting in a dishonest way.

Read the first cross over again..... Batman was getting owned and Bruce had prep and all his toys.

#41 Edited by rasx (242 posts) - - Show Bio

Why hasn't Dark Horse done this as yet, I say Predator wins.

#42 Posted by mcbean (292 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say Boba Feet but Predator is pretty good at hunting hmmm I guess Fett

#43 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

IIRC Fett has scanners and stuff right? That would be a good counter for cloaking and his jetpack gives him a huge advantage when it comes to getting around. Also I'd give him the nod when it comes to overall weapons versatility.

#44 Posted by MisterWhisper (1892 posts) - - Show Bio

@decoyelite:

The Jetpack would be a bad idea, kind of makes you an obvious target at that point.

#45 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@decoyelite:

The Jetpack would be a bad idea, kind of makes you an obvious target at that point.

He doesn't have to use it constantly, just to quickly get from one area to another.

It's not like he has to be constantly in the open air to make good use of it.

#46 Posted by MisterWhisper (1892 posts) - - Show Bio

@decoyelite:

He would be better off using a grappling hook. Any kind of jetpack would be like using a flare against someone who sees in infra red.

#47 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@misterwhisper: Eh, then that sucks for him as he'll probably use it anyway. He's unaware of the infra red after all.

#48 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20164 posts) - - Show Bio

Boba Fett.

You should do a battle with Master Chief.

#49 Posted by Ostyo (7513 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadknight: Congratz, you win the battle debate honor for sure!

#50 Posted by KingStandup (62 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a great battle! It's going to be tough to cast a vote. I'm really going to have a good look at each of them before I decide. Good stuff!