Colossus vs Megatron

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Megatron could actually win this but it won't be easy by any means. After taking a few hits he would have to remain airbourne and begin an ariel assualt until he can think of way to slow Colossus down. Don't forget he is very intelligent and could think of a way. The guy has withstood blows from Devastator and has casually knocked over 90,000 tons of weight so it's not like he will simply get torn apart. Plus he has his rare anti-matter blast which can destroy something of equal mass or something (according to that green lantern film) and he can link to a external black hole for extra power. He survived an anti-matter explosion and a blast capable of moving his planet out of orbit. He is a casual city buster so Colossus will struggle with him.

Unless its movie megatron than megatron dies.

Megatron.....

Colossus

How in the world can Colossus beat Megatron? lol

One shot from this and Colossus is screwed:

@cattlebattle said:

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Not really a good example considering Juggernaut has straight up knocked him out.

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Not really a good example considering Juggernaut has straight up knocked him out.

Uhhh, no duh,  The fact that he went toe to toe with Juggernaut and was able to knock him around a  bit, who is one of the strongest and most unstoppable beings on Marvel Earth.......a guy who could fight evenly with Hulk and Thor, Thats pretty impressive  Where is Megatrons feats?? the guy gets holes punched in him by Optimus Prime.....Colossus would do the same.

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Not really a good example considering Juggernaut has straight up knocked him out.

Uhhh, no duh,  The fact that he went toe to toe with Juggernaut and was able to knock him around a  bit, who is one of the strongest and most unstoppable beings on Marvel Earth.......a guy who could fight evenly with Hulk and Thor, Thats pretty impressive  Where is Megatrons feats?? the guy gets holes punched in him by Optimus Prime.....Colossus would do the same.

He doesn't fight evenly. He consistently get's his ass kicked. He doesn't hurt him, he doesn't do much of anything to him.   And what does optimus prime beating Megatron have to do with anything? Colossus isn't Optimus Prime. Apparently you have no idea what he can and can't do. That's not a basis for an argument, that's an argument through ignorance. 

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Not really a good example considering Juggernaut has straight up knocked him out.

Uhhh, no duh,  The fact that he went toe to toe with Juggernaut and was able to knock him around a  bit, who is one of the strongest and most unstoppable beings on Marvel Earth.......a guy who could fight evenly with Hulk and Thor, Thats pretty impressive  Where is Megatrons feats?? the guy gets holes punched in him by Optimus Prime.....Colossus would do the same.

He doesn't fight evenly. He consistently get's his ass kicked. He doesn't hurt him, he doesn't do much of anything to him.   And what does optimus prime beating Megatron have to do with anything? Colossus isn't Optimus Prime. Apparently you have no idea what he can and can't do. That's not a basis for an argument, that's an argument through ignorance. 

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@GLforHIRE said:

How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

Not really a good example considering Juggernaut has straight up knocked him out.

Uhhh, no duh,  The fact that he went toe to toe with Juggernaut and was able to knock him around a  bit, who is one of the strongest and most unstoppable beings on Marvel Earth.......a guy who could fight evenly with Hulk and Thor, Thats pretty impressive  Where is Megatrons feats?? the guy gets holes punched in him by Optimus Prime.....Colossus would do the same.

He doesn't fight evenly. He consistently get's his ass kicked. He doesn't hurt him, he doesn't do much of anything to him.   And what does optimus prime beating Megatron have to do with anything? Colossus isn't Optimus Prime. Apparently you have no idea what he can and can't do. That's not a basis for an argument, that's an argument through ignorance. 

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to start calling someone else names   In The Dark Phoenix Saga, when the team fought Cassidy and Juggernaut. Colossus knocked Juggs around a bit. When Colossus fought Juggs in a bar...he knocked him around a bit.....of course he didn't hurt him.....basically nothing hurts Juggernaut. I was using this as a reference as Colossus can hang with the strongest of the Marvel U  What can Megatron do?? whats his durability feats??Instead of calling me ignorant, why don't you prove something??

Megatron murders him.

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@cattlebattle said:

Colossus was not KO'd at that fight in the bar, he gets right up........ Colossus has proved ability to fight with the strongest Marvel characters, this is the point I was driving at. Using Juggernaut as an example because because he is pretty much a plot device Why would you tell me to calm down, a condescending statement like that only would infuriate me further, you don't deal with people very often, do you??

Megatron murders him.

@cattlebattle said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

 
 
 
 
 

                    @GLforHIRE said:

                    How is megaton different from a sentinel body wise is the question cuz in the movie the transformers are just big machines and got damaged easy. If it's the same colossus beats him like the hundreds of diff sentinel versions

                   

               

Colossus beating Sentinels isn't his only feat, He has wailed on Juggernaut, knocking him down and such.....I'm pretty sure Cytorrak > Decepticon

                   

               

Those five Nimrods in Second Coming broke his arm, and I reckon that Megatron is easily stronger than a group of Nimrods....
 
Colossus loses... unless its Ultimate Colossus, who is like a billion times stronger (hyperbole)

@cattlebattle said:

 

@cattlebattle said:

@cattlebattle:  I actually like Colossus because he's kind of the underdog in many regards insofar as Marvel's strongmen are concerned. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Gladiator, Champion, Hulk, Juggernaut (etc.) but we all know he's not strong enough to actually win. So when he gets his licks in, your love of the character grows. I love rooting for Petey. And I'd root for him against Megatron. But I believe comicbook Megatron is a team level threat and is simply too much for Petey.  There is no shame in that. There are quite a few characters who have done extremely well against all the above opponents. Gambit and Canonball got their licks in on Gladiator (in what I like to call WTF moments). Folks like Spider-Man and Wolverine have very solid showings against Hulk. As aforementioned, the Beast has far better showings agains Juggernaut than Colossus does... so Marvel showing a character on the same panel as a superior opponent does not necessarily mean that character is even in their league.  More powerful heroes/villains job to inferior adversaries all the time. And this to promote said inferior character's credibility and popularity in comics.  Colossus has a right to be seen on the same page as these other strongmen, and to join these folks in battle. But we all know he can't win. Colossus really is in serious trouble here ... this is not even a fair fight.

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@cattlebattle:  I actually like Colossus because he's kind of the underdog in many regards insofar as Marvel's strongmen are concerned. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Gladiator, Champion, Hulk, Juggernaut (etc.) but we all know he's not strong enough to actually win. So when he gets his licks in, your love of the character grows. I love rooting for Petey. And I'd root for him against Megatron. But I believe comicbook Megatron is a team level threat and is simply too much for Petey.  There is no shame in that. There are quite a few characters who have done extremely well against all the above opponents. Gambit and Canonball got their licks in on Gladiator (in what I like to call WTF moments). Folks like Spider-Man and Wolverine have very solid showings against Hulk. As aforementioned, the Beast has far better showings agains Juggernaut than Colossus does... so Marvel showing a character on the same panel as a superior opponent does not necessarily mean that character is even in their league.  More powerful heroes/villains job to inferior adversaries all the time. And this to promote said inferior character's credibility and popularity in comics.  Colossus has a right to be seen on the same page as these other strongmen, and to join these folks in battle. But we all know he can't win. Colossus really is in serious trouble here ... this is not even a fair fight.

This post is beautiful and all, I agree with almost every word.....but, no one is still providing any feats or info on Megatron....Colossus has a laundry list of feats that evidence he could just punch holes through him  and btw....the only reason Beast fares against the Juggernaut is relying on his agility, and speed, He would never be able to take a punch like Pete has

@cattlebattle:  I actually like Colossus because he's kind of the underdog in many regards insofar as Marvel's strongmen are concerned. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Gladiator, Champion, Hulk, Juggernaut (etc.) but we all know he's not strong enough to actually win. So when he gets his licks in, your love of the character grows. I love rooting for Petey. And I'd root for him against Megatron. But I believe comicbook Megatron is a team level threat and is simply too much for Petey.  There is no shame in that. There are quite a few characters who have done extremely well against all the above opponents. Gambit and Canonball got their licks in on Gladiator (in what I like to call WTF moments). Folks like Spider-Man and Wolverine have very solid showings against Hulk. As aforementioned, the Beast has far better showings agains Juggernaut than Colossus does... so Marvel showing a character on the same panel as a superior opponent does not necessarily mean that character is even in their league.  More powerful heroes/villains job to inferior adversaries all the time. And this to promote said inferior character's credibility and popularity in comics.  Colossus has a right to be seen on the same page as these other strongmen, and to join these folks in battle. But we all know he can't win. Colossus really is in serious trouble here ... this is not even a fair fight.

                    @cattlebattle said:

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@cattlebattle:  I actually like Colossus because he's kind of the underdog in many regards insofar as Marvel's strongmen are concerned. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Gladiator, Champion, Hulk, Juggernaut (etc.) but we all know he's not strong enough to actually win. So when he gets his licks in, your love of the character grows. I love rooting for Petey. And I'd root for him against Megatron. But I believe comicbook Megatron is a team level threat and is simply too much for Petey.  There is no shame in that. There are quite a few characters who have done extremely well against all the above opponents. Gambit and Canonball got their licks in on Gladiator (in what I like to call WTF moments). Folks like Spider-Man and Wolverine have very solid showings against Hulk. As aforementioned, the Beast has far better showings agains Juggernaut than Colossus does... so Marvel showing a character on the same panel as a superior opponent does not necessarily mean that character is even in their league.  More powerful heroes/villains job to inferior adversaries all the time. And this to promote said inferior character's credibility and popularity in comics.  Colossus has a right to be seen on the same page as these other strongmen, and to join these folks in battle. But we all know he can't win. Colossus really is in serious trouble here ... this is not even a fair fight.

This post is beautiful and all, I agree with almost every word.....but, no one is still providing any feats or info on Megatron....Colossus has a laundry list of feats that evidence he could just punch holes through him  and btw....the only reason Beast fares against the Juggernaut is relying on his agility, and speed, He would never be able to take a punch like Pete has

100% fact.

                   

               

@Edgeworth_11 said:

                   

@cattlebattle

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@Super_SoldierXII said:

@cattlebattle:  I actually like Colossus because he's kind of the underdog in many regards insofar as Marvel's strongmen are concerned. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Gladiator, Champion, Hulk, Juggernaut (etc.) but we all know he's not strong enough to actually win. So when he gets his licks in, your love of the character grows. I love rooting for Petey. And I'd root for him against Megatron. But I believe comicbook Megatron is a team level threat and is simply too much for Petey.  There is no shame in that. There are quite a few characters who have done extremely well against all the above opponents. Gambit and Canonball got their licks in on Gladiator (in what I like to call WTF moments). Folks like Spider-Man and Wolverine have very solid showings against Hulk. As aforementioned, the Beast has far better showings agains Juggernaut than Colossus does... so Marvel showing a character on the same panel as a superior opponent does not necessarily mean that character is even in their league.  More powerful heroes/villains job to inferior adversaries all the time. And this to promote said inferior character's credibility and popularity in comics.  Colossus has a right to be seen on the same page as these other strongmen, and to join these folks in battle. But we all know he can't win. Colossus really is in serious trouble here ... this is not even a fair fight.

This post is beautiful and all, I agree with almost every word.....but, no one is still providing any feats or info on Megatron....Colossus has a laundry list of feats that evidence he could just punch holes through him  and btw....the only reason Beast fares against the Juggernaut is relying on his agility, and speed, He would never be able to take a punch like Pete has

100% fact.

                   

               

Actually, 100% not fact. Beast has soaked punches from Juggs on a few occasions and remained standing. Beast's showing, overall, against Juggernaut is substantially better than Colossus. Fact.  He beat Juggernaut single handedly via BFR. Fact. Here's him soaking a solid blow from Juggs (one directly, and one indirectly); 
 
 

@Super_SoldierXII said:

Nice, I agree with this completely, Colossus is my favorite character, but he never gets shown accomplishing really great feats.  He always gets a huge hit in or takes a big punch, but the big winning shot goes to one of the more popular X-Men.  I think Colossus is capable of doing much more than he is usually shown.  Of course Colossus can take down a Sentinel, but Megatron could take down several Sentinels.  Megatron VS the X-Men would be cool and the X-Men could win, but against just one X-Men Megatron will usually come out on top.

 
You people need to understand. Megatron is NOT like a Sentinal. He is actually way above a Nimrod, and Tri-Sentinal put together. 
 
He is very fast for a giant. Fast reflexes and reaction speeds in par to Wolverine. This makes him very much faster than Colossus. If Megatron puts the grip on Colossus.... 
 
 
 
  
 There's simply NOTHING Colossus can do! 
 
 

@cattlebattle:  Wha!? Look at the pic again. Juggs double fists Beast behind the noggin. Beast lands on his head upon the rocks below. Juggernaut also rams Beast head first into and through a large tree knocking it down. And Beast is still in the fight. Sorry, but Beast soaked more than Petey did. Can't keep arguing against pictures can you?? So 'sigh' right back at you. Colossus 'briefly' going toe to toe with Juggs is a very mediocre feat at best. Kind of surprised you continue to lowball a fight you obviously never knew existed even when the pictures are right in front of you. Most of the feats I know of from Megatron have him fighting other decepticons and/or autobots. Many with enough power & firepower to topple buildings and wreck cities. And I am thinking of Megatron more along the comicbook lines of just before and during Beast Wars and the like - along with Marvel's/UK's Time Wars and Generation 2 runs. Not the alternate reality, non-canon, crossover with G.I Joe.  In the 'Another Time and Place' arc, Megatron battled Prime, and fended off an attack by both Autobots and Decepticons until he could get bailed out. Comparing a Transformer to a run of the mill Sentinel is extremely misleading IMO. Even some of the lower tier Transformers are more powerful, let alone Megatron.

@tron_bonne: What has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level?

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne: What has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level?

He's a AAA fighter and he's been a great grand master of all combat skills for some billion years. His body moves fluent like a human, not like a Sentinel.  One Megatron could probably destroy a whole army of Sentinels.

@tron_bonne said:

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne: What has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level?

He's a AAA fighter and he's been a great grand master of all combat skills for some billion years. His body moves fluent like a human, not like a Sentinel.  One Megatron could probably destroy a whole army of Sentinels.

That says nothing about his reflexes.

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne said:

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne: What has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level?

He's a AAA fighter and he's been a great grand master of all combat skills for some billion years. His body moves fluent like a human, not like a Sentinel.  One Megatron could probably destroy a whole army of Sentinels.

That says nothing about his reflexes.

Being a master of combat does say something about reflexes. Duh! Ok, if it's not like Wolverine, let's say it's like Scott's or Bruce Lee's. It makes no difference. He has reflexes like a grand master martial artist.

@tron_bonne said:

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne said:

@god_spawn said:

@tron_bonne: What has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level?

He's a AAA fighter and he's been a great grand master of all combat skills for some billion years. His body moves fluent like a human, not like a Sentinel.  One Megatron could probably destroy a whole army of Sentinels.

That says nothing about his reflexes.

Being a master of combat does say something about reflexes. Duh! Ok, if it's not like Wolverine, let's say it's like Scott's or Bruce Lee's. It makes no difference. He has reflexes like a grand master martial artist.

That still says nothing about his reflexes, I asked what has he done to put his reflexes on Wolverine's level and you just blabbed about how he is fluent and a good fighter.

                    @Super_SoldierXII said:

@cattlebattle:  Wha!? Look at the pic again. Juggs double fists Beast behind the noggin. Beast lands on his head upon the rocks below. Juggernaut also rams Beast head first into and through a large tree knocking it down. And Beast is still in the fight. Sorry, but Beast soaked more than Petey did. Can't keep arguing against pictures can you?? So 'sigh' right back at you. Colossus 'briefly' going toe to toe with Juggs is a very mediocre feat at best. Kind of surprised you continue to lowball a fight you obviously never knew existed even when the pictures are right in front of you. Most of the feats I know of from Megatron have him fighting other decepticons and/or autobots. Many with enough power & firepower to topple buildings and wreck cities. And I am thinking of Megatron more along the comicbook lines of just before and during Beast Wars and the like - along with Marvel's/UK's Time Wars and Generation 2 runs. Not the alternate reality, non-canon, crossover with G.I Joe.  In the 'Another Time and Place' arc, Megatron battled Prime, and fended off an attack by both Autobots and Decepticons until he could get bailed out. Comparing a Transformer to a run of the mill Sentinel is extremely misleading IMO. Even some of the lower tier Transformers are more powerful, let alone Megatron.

                   

               

That is not a direct hit...Beast is in mid air when he hits him, there is no fight where Juggernaut punches Beast square, dead on. Colossus held his own in a bar fight with Juggs and tussled with him even knocking him around during Dark Phoenix saga. That is one of Beats 4 encounters and he never really does much but dodge.

                   

               

ComicBook Megatron stomps with ease.