Cloud Strife - streetlevel or above? (Please read the OP)

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#1  Edited By TifaLockhart

Am I a fanboy for thinking he's the strongest videogame character, and/or can compete with comicbook characters?

Please explain your post. I don't care if you merely write just a complete one sentence reason saying you plain think he's not that good and provide no evidence or reasoning. Just please please please give more than a post such as "Cloud gets stomped" or "Cloud sucks" when you reply. Thanks. I want a debate and/or a discussion, not name-dropping and one word posts.

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#2  Edited By Almighty_Darkseid

hes above street level, he saved a whole planet from destruction, hes beaten monsters that can destroy the planet, like the ultima weapon, i would say hes city, or state level

i think he can compete with comic characters as well, he can use magic, summoning, limit break, items, basically everything in the game, and in the movie

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#3  Edited By TifaLockhart

@Almighty_Darkseid: Dude, I really appreciate the post! Thanks for the detailed analysis. And yeah, I agree that Cloud is strong.

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#4  Edited By ReVamp

Not the strongest video game character for sure, but he's definitely strong. How strong I'm not sure, been a long ass time since I played the game.

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#5  Edited By TifaLockhart

@ReVamp: Thank you for the honest reply.

By the way, might I ask if you enjoyed Advent Children?

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#6  Edited By ReVamp

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: About four times. Love that film.

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#7  Edited By TifaLockhart

@ReVamp: I can't decide if I like vanilla Advent Children better than Advent Children Complete on Blu-ray or not.

Needless to say, I enjoyed both.

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#8  Edited By Ghostalt

Above

he's planet continent lvl threat.

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#9  Edited By jeanroygrant

Above Street Level.

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#10  Edited By ReVamp

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Haven't watched the latter. Is there much difference?

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#11  Edited By TifaLockhart

@Ghostalt: @jeanroygrant: I want to personally thank you both too. I know we don't always see eye-to-eye, Jean, but you get cool points in my book for following the OP and posting a sentence.

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#12  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

Well above street level, but not the strongest video game character out there.  
 
That said, he's extremely fast, strong, agile and has a potency for magic. In combat, you'd have to be faster and stronger than Spider-Man to best him. He could probably take down someone like the Hulk, really. 
 
Big Guard + Omnislash = Dead anything without extremely high durability. 

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#13  Edited By TifaLockhart

@ReVamp: About a half-hour's worth of extra movie, and the fight at the end plays out a bit differently.

@FadeToBlackBolt: Dude, you're my hero. Thank you for the detailed post.

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#14  Edited By Ghostalt

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@Ghostalt: @jeanroygrant: I want to personally thank you both too. I know we don't always see eye-to-eye, Jean, but you get cool points in my book for following the OP and posting a sentence.

Yah he's pretty OP compared to some marvel heroes.

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#15  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: No worries, happy to help.  
 
Realistically, Cloud was dropping things like the Ultimate Weapon with one move (providing you had Ultima Weapon and Omnislash, or Knights of the Sound). Use the fully mastered materia that you gain after defeating Emerald Weapon, and Cloud is an absolute monstrousity in terms of physical damage.  
 
We saw his speed in Advent Children, and that was with zero materia. With Hastega, he'd be moving at levels beyond human sight. 
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#16  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

I believe his fights in Advent Children prove that he's well above street level, he may not be the strongest video game character, but he's certainly stronger than a lot of them.

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#17  Edited By TifaLockhart

@TheMightyAvenger: Great post, which I can reluctantly agree on. Thanks.

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#18  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Happy to help.

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#19  Edited By terry2012

He's pretty cool character but not the strongest videogame character. He strong, very fast, agile, and good at using magic. He could take down some Marvel and DC characters for sure including streetlevels character as well. He written very well and is a consisted character. He use his head properly and fight with his head on his shoulders. The strongest videogame character mite go to one of the DBZ characters. Very interest character indeed.

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#20  Edited By TifaLockhart

@terry2012: Thank you. You've certainly earned a follow, but I regret that I cannot as I am already following you.

As far as DBZ characters in videogames? I consider them Manga/Anime characters primarily. I have no doubt they're stronger than Cloud.

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#21  Edited By terry2012

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Who do you think is the strongest videogame character beside DBZ characters?

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#22  Edited By TifaLockhart

@terry2012: Talking characters whose origins are videogames, I honestly think it may be Cloud off the top of my head.

Then again I have not played every single videogame and I must confess I am biased.

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#23  Edited By terry2012

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: OKAY. What about in general?

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#24  Edited By TifaLockhart

@terry2012: I'm sorry, I don't quite understand the question?

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#25  Edited By terry2012

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Who the strongest videogame character over all no matter what videogame or story written?

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#26  Edited By Grand Ninja

Cloud at his maxed out potential surpasses Dante in my opinion. He could stop time, slow it down or speed it up. Cast every element known to nature and even absorb them. Can instantly heal people at full strength. Summon monsters who are city busters and is one with the Life Stream.

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#27  Edited By Nelomaxwell

 @The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: You're not a fan boy but I'd like to know why you think so. There are 4 RPG characters who come to mind that can beat him. Those being Ryu from Breath of Fire , Yuri Hyuga from Shadow Hearts (who has killed gods in his universe) Fei Fong Wong (who has also killed a god) and Ashley Winchester (He stopped a demon god from swallowing his universe.) 

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#28  Edited By tim2081

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@terry2012: Talking characters whose origins are videogames, I honestly think it may be Cloud off the top of my head.

Then again I have not played every single videogame and I must confess I am biased.

I actually think Vincent at the end of Dirge of Cerberus became more powerful than Cloud. KOS-MOS and chaos from the Xenosaga series are also very powerful.

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#29  Edited By Grand Ninja

@tim2081 said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@terry2012: Talking characters whose origins are videogames, I honestly think it may be Cloud off the top of my head.

Then again I have not played every single videogame and I must confess I am biased.

I actually think Vincent at the end of Dirge of Cerberus became more powerful than Cloud. KOS-MOS and chaos from the Xenosaga series are also very powerful.

Yeah, he was. He was the God of Chaos, right?

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#30  Edited By terry2012

@tim2081: Oh ok

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#31  Edited By mightyzeus

cloud is strong and he's around city level and he has very good durability but my strongest video game character would be zeus(GOW)

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#32  Edited By tim2081

@Grand Ninja said:

@tim2081 said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@terry2012: Talking characters whose origins are videogames, I honestly think it may be Cloud off the top of my head.

Then again I have not played every single videogame and I must confess I am biased.

I actually think Vincent at the end of Dirge of Cerberus became more powerful than Cloud. KOS-MOS and chaos from the Xenosaga series are also very powerful.

Yeah, he was. He was the God of Chaos, right?

Yeah, he learned to control Chaos which was related to Omega. Chaos was supposed to wipe out all life on the planet.

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#33  Edited By saiyan_earthling

He's way above street level. He's at least around town level in terms of destructive ability.

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#34  Edited By FourthDeity

Well above street level.

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#35  Edited By nefarious

He is definitely above street level. He can give Sephiroth a good fight.

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#36  Edited By terry2012

@tim2081: Oh ok.

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#37  Edited By JediWaffles

Cloud is nowhere near street-level. And by that i mean he's way above it. Even with zero or little materia, he's still above street-level.

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#38  Edited By TifaLockhart

@terry2012: If I had to venture a guess, it'd be Goku?

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#39  Edited By terry2012

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: Oh Ok