#1 Posted by Cosmic Mancer (195 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Inuyasha and Sesshomaru.

#3 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know what Team Inuyasha can do, so I won't insult you by putting an opinion.

#4 Posted by Cosmic Mancer (195 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength

InuYasha's yōkai blood gives him superhuman strength. No upper limit has yet been shown in the canon, but, according to the Zusetsutaizen Ōgikaiden official character data book, he is at least strong enough to easily lift a boulder with a diameter greater than the height of his body over his head with one hand, and then run many miles with it. Such a boulder would weigh perhaps eight to ten tons. The Ōgikaiden similarly states that he is strong enough to punch through solid steel with his bare hands, as seen in the manga version of the battle with the Noh Mask.

Speed

While not as fast as Entei the yōkai-horse that served as Hakudoshi's steed, InuYasha's speed has been shown to easily exceed that of a normal horse; possibly as fast as, if not faster than, a cheetah. Due to the speed he can accumulate in his runs, added with his incredible strength, he is able to cross great distances with a single jump. Altogether, this creates the illusion that he is flying every time he leaps. The Ōgikaiden says he can reach the top of tall cliffs with a single leap as well.

Stamina

InuYasha's stamina likewise far exceeds human standards, possibly derived from the fact that his yokai blood is that of a dog, dogs naturally having great stamina. He is shown to be able to run tremendous distances at tremendous speeds with minimal effort, and is often seen complaining about how his comparatively weaker human companions always slow him down by needing to rest so much every day.

Defensive Ability

While his fire-rat robe provides additional protection, a power afforded to anyone wearing it (such as whenever InuYasha gives his robe to Kagome for protection), InuYasha's physique is capable of taking a lot of damage, more than the average human, or even most yōkai. He appears unaffected by severe blunt force trauma, able to withstand a direct blow from a wooden log that broke on contact, and unfazed by the tremendous impact of being thrown hard enough to shatter solid rock. He also possesses tremendous resistance to sharp weapons, able to withstand attacks that slice through trees. While he can be injured by more powerful yōkai and holy weapons, he appears invulnerable to most human ones, able to catch normal arrows out of the air and break steel swords with his bare hands.

Even without his fire-rat robe, he has shown the ability to withstand direct contact with fire and tremendous heat, as well as corrosive substances like acid. When injured, he heals far more rapidly than a human, so much so that attacks powerful enough to severely injure him are rarely fatal, as they would be to humans, if they sustained an equivalent injury. For example, he recovered quickly from numerous serious attacks, including a large fist-sized hole punched through his gut. Unfortunately for InuYasha, his tongue is still susceptible to being burned by curry. He also appears weak against strong smells, as was the case with the ink from the episode "The Cursed Hell Painter".

Senses

InuYasha's senses are highly developed, and in some ways, appear to be super-canine rather than superhuman. His senses of hearing and smell are quite likely his most powerful — he is shown to be able to hear what people are whispering from great distances, as was the case when, while perched on a tree, he overheard Akitoki Hojo hiding in a bush and quietly praising Kagome under his breath. His ability to hear is sometimes used for comic relief, as when he overhears Shippo whispering insults about him to Kagome. Likewise, his sense of smell is shown to be extremely sensitive - he can smell hints of blood from miles away and can detect the presence of people by smell long before they can be seen. This is also sometimes used for comical purposes, such as in the episode "The Cursed Ink of the Hell-Painter" where he could be temporarily knocked out by the strong smell of the black ink.

Not much is explicitly said about his other senses. One can however speculate that his eyesight is somewhat enhanced at night, due to the fact that his eyes sometimes are shown to glow, and appear to share some characteristics with cat eyes. The fact that his robes are bright red (one of the colors dogs cannot see) suggest that InuYasha's visual spectrum is at least similar to that of humans. His sense of taste may also be heightened, considering how affected he is by curry.

[edit] Techniques

Besides wielding Tessaiga, which neither Sesshomaru nor most other full-demons can do, InuYasha can perform the following techniques:

Sankon Tessō (散魂鉄爪, Soul-Scattering Iron Claws?, Iron Reaver Soul Stealer)

InuYasha's basic attack, which channels his yoki through his claws, and is powerful enough to tear apart iron, making it easy for him to rip his enemies in half.

Hijin Kessō (飛刃血爪, Hijin Kessō? Blades of Blood)

InuYasha's blood, when combined with the "Soul-Scattering Iron Claws", does damage when thrown. With this attack, he is able to attack his enemies from afar instead of in close combat. InuYasha splashes his own or other's blood on the end of his claws and flings them like multiple shuriken to cleave his foes in two.

Time Travel

This technique basically involves InuYasha jumping down the “Bone Eater’s Well” and traveling back and forth 500 years from the future. How this is done has not been explained and is one of the series most talked about plot-holes. In episode 4 among others, InuYasha traveled to Kagome's time without the aid of a jewel shard. Others besides Kagome and InuYasha have been unable to travel through the well. Specifically, in one episode, Shippo attempts to go through the well but fails. In another episode, Sota (Kagome's younger brother) attempts to go down the well to call InuYasha for help, he also fails.

#5 Posted by Cosmic Mancer (195 posts) - - Show Bio

Sesshomaru

Flight

In the anime he has the ability to float in the sky or ride upon a sparkling dust cloud. Should he choose to do so for an extended period, the pant-legs of his hakama become ephemeral flowing masses-- similar to how one would visualize the wind-driven cloak of a ghost. In the manga, Sesshomaru's legs and the bottoms of his hakama become furry tails that propel him through the air. He also chooses to ride Ah-Un in flight, occasionally in the series.

Senses

Due to his lineage, Sesshomaru exhibits the ability of having extremely heightened senses. Sesshomaru has particularly shown his heightened sense of smell, such as being able to tell the Band of Seven were undead due to the scents of soil (graveyard soil in particular), and he was also able to tell that InuYasha's scent changed when the latter temporarily changed into a full demon. Through smell alone, Sesshomaru is also able to learn about events that is transpiring from far away, or even an event that has already happened. [5] Besides the five basic senses, Sesshomaru's ability in sensing other's auras are exceptional.

Super Strength

Sesshomaru possesses physical strength far beyond that of a normal demon. He was able to easily lift Inuyasha by the throat into the air with one hand in one of their earlier encounters. In addition, Sesshomaru was seen carrying the boulder-sized demon head of Goshinki in one hand with little to no effort. In the InuYasha profiles manga, Rumiko stated that Sesshomaru has Herculean strength, even with only one arm; his strength with only one arm is equal to InuYash's full strength.[5]

Super speed

His instantaneous power grants him the ability to move faster than the eye can see, both on land and through the air. When he does this in the anime, he leaves behind afterimages. He can also instantaneously close long distances without being detected by others.

Teleportation

The ability to morph into a ball of energy and move himself (and small amounts of other material, including other living beings) over great distances in a short amount of time. This is an ability given only in the anime.

Daiyōkai

As the son of a daiyōkai, Sesshomaru has inherited similar levels of power and thus is a daiyōkai in his own right; endowed with heightened senses, intelligence, strength, and a myriad of yōkai powers. While he usually appears to be a very handsome human bearing splendid clothing and armour, he can transform into his true form at will. In the anime, he transforms surrounded in a bright red aura or has a tornado circling around him. His eyes then take on a bright red color and yōkai marks on his body widen and become more apparent; the strips on his cheeks which are usually smooth become jagged and change into a somewhat fiercer color. It is similar to InuYasha during his yōkai transformations, however, Sesshomaru transforms much further due to his yōkai blood and becomes a gigantic, crimson eyed,canine with white fur. In the anime he has acid breath as well. It is released in his saliva and spreads like mist that melts anything nearby, and he loses the massive speed he had in his human form.

Longevity

Being a yōkai, Sesshomaru does not age the way humans do. He has been around for at least a few hundred years. [1]

Immunity

Sesshomaru is immune to diseases, poisons, and gases that can paralyze or kill both humans and other normal creatures as well as weaker yōkai.[1] His greatest resistance seems to be toward holy and divine powers; his resistance to purification powers was so strong that he was able to enter Mt. Hakurei, despite its purification barrier (which was the most powerful barrier in the entire series as its reach extended throughout the surrounding area of entire mountain), without being purified and was only slightly weakened to the degree he was unable to perform his signature kenatsu attack in his battles against Jakotsu and Suikotsu. Also when Kagome shot Sesshomaru using one of her Hama no Ya, Sesshomaru caught it using his right hand’s forefingers.[6] Most yōkai would have been purified, but Sesshomaru remained unharmed with not even a scar on either of his fingers. It seems that the only mystical powers that Sesshomaru is not resistant to is yōki such as those of InuYasha’s Kaze no Kizu. Another example of his strong body seems to come from Naraku’s inability to absorb him. As Sesshomaru blasted pieces of Naraku’s flesh, those same pieces wrapped themselves around him. Then Naraku reconnected himself with the pieces of his flesh that covered Sesshomaru and attempted to absorb him to no avail; as when Sesshomaru broke out unmarked from the absorbing process. Most of this happens because Sesshomaru's aura emanates around his body in perfect "completion", due to his demonic purity. InuYasha possesses a far weaker version of such an aura, therefore it cannot repel energy or poisons like Sesshomaru's can, although it does help with his healing abilities. It is also stated by InuYasha that human attacks will not have an effect on Sesshomaru, and thus far the only damage he has sustained throughout the series (not counting when he was in his weakened state within the Hakurei barrier) has been from yōkai.

Intelligence

Despite his overall intelligence, Rumiko Takahashi reveals that his intellect is actually one of his weakest points (despite it being considerably high, it pales in comparison to his other capabilities).

#6 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

that's a lot of words.

#7 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Sesshomaru could take em all by himself.

#8 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know... that one guy has a sword-gun. How could he lose?

#9 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"I dont know... that one guy has a sword-gun. How could he lose?"

He accidentally has it pointed the wrong way and splits his own wig.

#10 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Forever says:
"I dont know... that one guy has a sword-gun. How could he lose?"
He accidentally has it pointed the wrong way and splits his own wig."

Hmm. I'll have to go with Sesshomaru then.

#11 Posted by asylum (154 posts) - - Show Bio

If I remember correctly Sesshomaru's sword will not let him die. I remember it bringing him back to life

#12 Posted by nerdchore (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

cloud and leon

#13 Edited by DeathHero61 (6818 posts) - - Show Bio

@sparda:

He is stated to be a 20+ tonner by rumiko takashi, with each hand he is able to hold 10 tons. He carried a giant bolder that was 10 tons with one hand down a mountain, and on occasions he would casually be jumping around with people on his back. and still run at the same speeds. If i had to say i would say he is a 30 tonner.

Lightening timer, and bullet timer. He easily has the reflexes and speed to keep up with his opponents.

1:43-2:22 speed feats and air mobility.

And rumiko takashi said with his full powered leaps he can jump over 3 mountains easily. Whats stopping the dog demon from jumping as high as possible and spam AoE techniques? Kaze no Kizu is stated to have a range of 80 meters.....

Kongosha fires off a barrage of adamtine IIRC. Which is the strongest material in the universe.

He can use his sheath to create powerful barriers, he can also destroy nearly any defense with a red tessiga. If the defense is too strong he would use kongosha.

Durability wise, i believe he can keep up.

The video should already be marked at 12:30, watch till 13:23. He shrugged off a blow that would cut someone in half.The main reason was because of his red kimono, which in a sense is like a bullet proof vest. When kagome was wearing it in the fourth episode, she was attacked by fire that was stated to turn its targets into ashes, but did not have a scratch on her, later she was attacked directly on one side of her body with signifcant force and only got launched due to that force, there was no damage to the cloak or her. Its also highly resistent to piercing and slashing damage which cloud and leon may rely on.

And this is only the third to fourth episode. He gets better feats as the series progresses.

1:28-1:35. And look at this 6:35-6:38, this shows he can use his senses, such as hearing, and smell to properly react more efficiently to attacks.

Now go back to the video with the first episode and skip to 20:31-20:47 He destroys the demon centipede with one strike.

Wind Scar if i recall was covering mountain ranges,(was done on two different occasions i believe one of them being the scan below) adamantine barrage covers a large range and radius as well and would be virtually impossible to dodge and it seems once they pierce a target they enlarge.

stop at 2:15

And honestly, Inuyasha jumps pretty damn high, he can cover mountain ranges with his jumps, hell its arguably based on the first episode that he can do something like a air walk similar to sanji's. (look at the video i showed in a previous post for what i showed for speed feats.)

So whats the point of bringing up jumping? I mentioned this before so excuse me if im a broken record: Whats stopping inuyasha from jumping into the air, and using one of his AoE moves like Wind Scar? the technique is pretty damn fast, and it can go up to a range of 80 meters. It would be allot harder to dodge that way let alone counter attack, and although he cannot fly, he can glide in the air for a long period of time.

He won't be put down easy. Inuyasha took multiple explosions some of them being point blank, and Inuyasha took two direct hits from kouga's jewel shard infused punches. And they are pretty destructive.

Watch till 16:42, take note he is already damaged, yet he takes all those canon balls, and other explosives easily. Then pops out of nowhere interrupting a conversation as if nothing happened, and still has enough energy to smack koga at the back of the head and pick a fight with him. And to add this episode shows how durable his kimono is, his kimono was durable enough to protect kagome, kouga shippo and his cronies, from a huge explosion just by using it as a blanket.

Moar speed.

watch till 3:41 and right after that he has to deal with kagura. Which shows some wicked endurance.

As you can see inuyasha shows some decent reaction time speed for up close encounters.

Well thats all the feats im not too lazy to get.

#14 Posted by Alberto_Weskardo (336 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not too sure about "Leon", but Squall Leonhart should be more powerful than Cloud if we're comparing the power between the Materia vs Guardian Force junction system. If both of these guys are maxed, they should have no problem taking on Inu bros. But if you take the Materia and Guardian Forces away, the Inu bros would win after a long and hard fight.

#15 Posted by SliceandGeist (150 posts) - - Show Bio

Sesshomaru Solo.

#16 Edited by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Replace Cloud and Leon with Genesis and Sephiroth, then we're talking.

#17 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

#18 Edited by DeathHero61 (6818 posts) - - Show Bio

If they managed to take on seperioth i don't see them losing to inuyasha and his bro.

#19 Edited by thelocust619 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

@sliceandgeist: One of Squall's attacks is to fire a beam of energy far into space and then slam it down on his foe....this is so large it overshoots the planet. He has the power of multiple demigods junctioned to him. His strongest attack smacks you into hyperspace or something and unloads a supercharged 18 hit combo...after the standard 5-7 hit Renzokuken with perfect accuracy and fully controllable critical. Also...the spell triple and meteor/meltdown/ultima spam.

Cloud is enhanced by both the planet's crystalized energy and the cells of a life wiping alien cataclysm and can easily handle Sephiroth's building + standard slashes and is so oriented he can perform ridiculously fast combos in midair while spinning rapidly without losing orientation. He has taken blows that could split a city-cized metal cannon barrel with no resistance and keep fighting. He can jump up a crumbling skyscraper as it falls and occasionally fly when tapping into his full power. He singlehandedly defeated a life wiper who was absorbing an entire planet's soul. Three times (Nibleheim, sephiroth's final attack in Northern Crater, Advent Children).

FF team completely decimates Inuyasha's team with no struggle.

#20 Edited by thelocust619 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: you do realize nothing in those scans come close to what Squall and Cloud can do.... those scans have nothing on Squall's Blast Zone attack, and Cloud's Finishing Touch is an instant win....they can't resist a tornado that can BFR a dinosaur with ease

Also, Squall has 255 accuracy, which is perfect. If you want to disprove his perfect accuracy then show me him missing someone Inuyasha's >supersonic speed lol (Sora doesn't count, he's far faster than everyone here and thus incomparable)

#21 Edited by DeathHero61 (6818 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: I just said they wouldn't win i just posted those feats for anyone who didn't know inuyasha. plus those were basic feats, inuyasha has far better feats. Plus how would cloud and leon win if they are so superior against meidou?

#22 Posted by Marshall_Long (2157 posts) - - Show Bio

The FF team

#23 Edited by ShenKuei (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

I am assuming those are Kingdom Hearts versions in which case they have basically no feats.

If this is FF versions either they lose or Squall solos easily depending on if you count his desperation attack cutscenes as canon or not.

#24 Edited by thelocust619 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

@shenkuei: how does team 1 beat Cloud's speed, power, or his own limits.... or Squall's accuracy, ability to block attacks with demigods, superior magic, and his own massive attack power? While I agree the KH versions are garbage, its complete bull to think these guys have a chance against the FF versions

#25 Edited by ShenKuei (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: Serious question...do you actually know anything about Inuyasha?

Inuyasha and Seshomaru both have superhuman strength, speed and durability plus healing factors, massive AoE attacks that can kill a hundred demons in one swipe, energy manipulation, black holes, energy shields, acid, healing, resurrection, teleportation etc. Inuyasha outran a train. Seshomaru is much faster, he blitzed a band of warriors and decapitated them and all their horses before any of them could react, while he was weakened. Inuyasha is also stronger than Cloud imo he easily lifted an 11 ton boulder with one hand. Seshomaru is stated to be twice as strong.

If Sesshomaru has Bakusaiga he has an even more powerful attack can kill 1000 demons in a single stroke and the smallest scratch from it will cause a wound that can't be healed and disintegrates the targets body as it spreads. Yokai form massively amps Inuyasha too.

Yes Cloud and Squall can easily win with powerful magic but it wasn't specified that they had any in the OP. Cloud needs Materia and Squall needs magic stocks. It's not really standard gear especially not the powerful spells.

I don't know what feats Squall has that even put him in this league besides his desperation attacks. His accuracy is up in the air, you can't make claims based on gameplay stats and even if he had perfect accuracy Inuyasha has dodged cannon shells after they were fired and Seshomaru is much faster. Blocking attacks from a demigod is not impressive unless it's a city busting+ attack. Inuyasha's Wind Scar nearly destroyed a whole mountain and it's not even his most powerful attack.

#26 Edited by thelocust619 (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathhero61: hopefully so, but I don't recall anything to match the combat speed displayed in Advent Children.

As for Sesh's spesh, its as simple as either not getting hit by it, really. If one of them does get hit the other, now understanding what will happen if he does get hit, solos. I could make a strong argument for either one..

#27 Edited by ShenKuei (1584 posts) - - Show Bio
@thelocust619 said:

@deathhero61: hopefully so, but I don't recall anything to match the combat speed displayed in Advent Children.

As for Sesh's spesh, its as simple as either not getting hit by it, really. If one of them does get hit the other, now understanding what will happen if he does get hit, solos. I could make a strong argument for either one..

Really? You can make a strong case for either Cloud or Squall soloing? I didn't see any speed feats in Advent Children that make me think Cloud is on par with Seshomaru who can blitz at least a dozen warriors on horseback and decapititate all of them, and their horses, with one hand, while he was weakened. Inuyasha is at least fast enough to keep up with that.

To say nothing of Squall's (lack of) speed feats.

There's no way they can not be hit by Bakusaiga's special. It's big enough to hit 1000 demons at once.

#28 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@shenkuei said:
@thelocust619 said:

@deathhero61: hopefully so, but I don't recall anything to match the combat speed displayed in Advent Children.

As for Sesh's spesh, its as simple as either not getting hit by it, really. If one of them does get hit the other, now understanding what will happen if he does get hit, solos. I could make a strong argument for either one..

Really? You can make a strong case for either Cloud or Squall soloing? I didn't see any speed feats in Advent Children that make me think Cloud is on par with Seshomaru who can blitz at least a dozen warriors on horseback and decapititate all of them, and their horses, with one hand, while he was weakened. Inuyasha is at least fast enough to keep up with that.

To say nothing of Squall's (lack of) speed feats.

There's no way they can not be hit by Bakusaiga's special. It's big enough to hit 1000 demons at once.

I would go 50/50 on that one.

He was constantly being shot at by nearly every angle and getting attack by summons at the same time. Of course, Cloud can also do that since they are in group and are normal for their standards.

Cloud goes through an energy ball that was about to destroy Midgar and wasn't affected in anyway. And FF7 AC Cloud doesn't used any materia.

#29 Posted by ShenKuei (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

@afueikawa: Cloud goes through an energy ball that was about to destroy Midgar and wasn't affected in anyway. And FF7 AC Cloud doesn't used any materia.

Any proof that attack was powerful enough to destroy Midgard? Cloud was made to bleed from an ordinary bullet.

He was constantly being shot at by nearly every angle and getting attack by summons at the same time. Of course, Cloud can also do that since they are in group and are normal for their standards.

Still not as impressive as what Seshomaru did imo.

#30 Edited by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@shenkuei said:

@afueikawa: Cloud goes through an energy ball that was about to destroy Midgar and wasn't affected in anyway. And FF7 AC Cloud doesn't used any materia.

Any proof that attack was powerful enough to destroy Midgard? Cloud was made to bleed from an ordinary bullet.

He was constantly being shot at by nearly every angle and getting attack by summons at the same time. Of course, Cloud can also do that since they are in group and are normal for their standards.

Still not as impressive as what Seshomaru did imo.

None, since Cloud screwed it.

Well that's your opinion. And I have mine.