Classic Team vs Stormtroopers

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#1  Edited By Penderor

John Rambo, colonel Matrix (Commando), John Mcclane, Luc and Scott the Universal Soldiers (everyone has pistol, 3 grenades, AK-47 and MG 43 Machine Gun they have unlimited number of magazines but they must reload plus they can call for Robocop and Terminator who will help them for 30 seconds)

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1000 Stormtroopers=800 movie version and 200 EU version (standard equipment and can call for two Dark Troopers who will help them for 30 seconds)

Battle takes place there

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Storm troopers miss every shot and lose

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@noone301994: Lol :D Is it even possible with 1000 shots per second to miss?

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Are we using movie storm troopers or EU storm troopers?

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Stormtroopers

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#6  Edited By Easternwind

they wont even break the ST armor...without robocop or term

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Troops.

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Movie or EU?

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#9  Edited By Wolfrazer

Stormtroopers, the 3 grenades won't do anything as their armor protects them, the pistols won't do anything. The AK and MG could probably do something though. But Stormtroopers have this, the Dark Troopers can just sweep in and destroy them within 30 seconds really. Depending on what version of a Dark Trooper anyway, a Phase 2 Trooper sweeps, Phase 3 sweeps, Phase Zero helps out, though I wouldn't call the Phase Zero an actual Dark Trooper. None of the team's armor is gonna be able to even get through the Dark Trooper armor(except perhaps the Phase Zero), so when the Stormtroopers call them in, it's pretty much over.

Speaking of accuracy btw, Stormtroopers are accurate as shown here...

Also in the Alligience novels, a squad of Stormtroopers dispatched a group of swoop bikers.

Speaking of, Stormtroopers do carry powerful thermal detonators as shown..

Dark Troopers have phrik armor(except for the Phase Zero), which is highly durable.

The Phase One Dark Trooper, a mere skeleton was primitive yet relentless, it's structural frame, forearm shield and razor-edge carving blade were cast from Phrik, an exceptionally durable alloy.

The Phase 2 was the standard unit, it's additional phrik body shell made it tougher than the Phase 1.

- Taken from the Essential Guide to Droids.

The Phase 2 also carry heavy weaponry...

Each Phase 2 carried a devastating assault cannon that fired plasma shells and long range explosive rockets.

They also had good manuverability.

It's repuslorlifts engine and flight jets gave it superior maneuverability in the air.

A small group of Phase 2 destroyed an entire Rebel Base.

Phase 3...let's not go there, that is just even more overkill.

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#10  Edited By Penderor

I think that EU Stormtroopers are quite op but I edit it.

@wolfrazer: what if I would stated in rules that weapons of team can penetrate stormtroopers armor?

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The 800 storm troopers immediately die from stupidity while the 200 EU troopers storm Helm Deep and kill the team.

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Nope but it's a summary of what happens. :P

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#14  Edited By Wolfrazer

@penderor: Then there wouldn't really be any point for them to have armor, though if you want to go ahead. But the Dark Troopers will still clean house with their weaponry, the thermal dets the Stormtroopers will have a large effect, their E-11s have a greater ammo capacity than the AK and MG. The Stormtroopers still outnumber the other team, to where they can still take the win.

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This is what would probably Arnold said to the movie stormtroopers

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#16  Edited By Noone301994
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#18  Edited By SSJDarthPlagueis

I hope nobody saw my post lol!

Anyways I think the Stoormtroopers could win. But never like the movie versions.(How do they lose to Ewoks?)

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Troopers should win, the shadow ones are no joke.

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#21  Edited By Wolfrazer

@ssjdarthplagueis: You mean "How did they lose to a hijacked AT-ST and a squad of Rebel SpecForce Wilderness Fighters?(With Han/Chewie/Leia of course)" They didn't lose to the Ewoks alone, Chewie frankly did more damage to the Stormtroopers than the Ewoks did.

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#22  Edited By PhantomLantern8

Troopers win. EU troopers and Dark Troopers have the potential to solo.

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#23  Edited By Noone301994

@lukehero: I didn't make the meme. But I will admit that I didn't know that.

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#24  Edited By mickey-mouse

@noone301994: They phased out the clone program and most of the storm troopers are just regular type solider recruits. Storm Troopers suck, Clone troopers in groups of 10 can kill Jedi.

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It's funny since the Storm Troopers are the elite military force of the Galactic Empire. :P

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#26  Edited By Noone301994

@lukehero: Ahhh gotcha. Well if most of them aren't clones of Jando Fett then that explains WHY they suck. LOL

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They're still supposed to be the elite of the Galactic Military.

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#28  Edited By mickey-mouse

@noone301994: Jango Fett and Boba Fett suck in the movies. In The EU they whip all kinds of ass and Jango kills Sith and Jedi. Boba goes toe to toe with Vader, then gets the hell out of there before Vader amps up.

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#29  Edited By Wolfrazer
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@ssjdarthplagueis: You mean "How did they lose to a hijacked AT-ST and a squad of Rebel SpecForce Wilderness Fighters?(With Han/Chewie/Leia of course)" They didn't lose to the Ewoks alone, Chewie frankly did more damage to the Stormtroopers than the Ewoks did.

Hmmm true I guess.

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Still a lame showing. :/

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#32  Edited By Whirlwind_33

@beezlebub: I thought you were taking a brake?

BTW Troopers take this

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I am but I come back on occasionally.

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Stormtroopers, the 3 grenades won't do anything as their armor protects them, the pistols won't do anything. The AK and MG could probably do something though. But Stormtroopers have this, the Dark Troopers can just sweep in and destroy them within 30 seconds really. Depending on what version of a Dark Trooper anyway, a Phase 2 Trooper sweeps, Phase 3 sweeps, Phase Zero helps out, though I wouldn't call the Phase Zero an actual Dark Trooper. None of the team's armor is gonna be able to even get through the Dark Trooper armor(except perhaps the Phase Zero), so when the Stormtroopers call them in, it's pretty much over.

Speaking of accuracy btw, Stormtroopers are accurate as shown here...

Also in the Alligience novels, a squad of Stormtroopers dispatched a group of swoop bikers.

Speaking of, Stormtroopers do carry powerful thermal detonators as shown..

Dark Troopers have phrik armor(except for the Phase Zero), which is highly durable.

The Phase One Dark Trooper, a mere skeleton was primitive yet relentless, it's structural frame, forearm shield and razor-edge carving blade were cast from Phrik, an exceptionally durable alloy.

The Phase 2 was the standard unit, it's additional phrik body shell made it tougher than the Phase 1.

- Taken from the Essential Guide to Droids.

The Phase 2 also carry heavy weaponry...

Each Phase 2 carried a devastating assault cannon that fired plasma shells and long range explosive rockets.

They also had good manuverability.

It's repuslorlifts engine and flight jets gave it superior maneuverability in the air.

A small group of Phase 2 destroyed an entire Rebel Base.

Phase 3...let's not go there, that is just even more overkill.

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Dude we know who wins this no need to write a college thesis.

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@beezlebub: How many cassulties would have that EU Stormtroopers then? 200 vs team.

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@lukehero: Wow really? That's awesome. I'd like to see scans of that.

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@penderor: Not very many there some of the best trained of the best trained elite troopers of the Empire.

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#40  Edited By Wolfrazer

@beezlebub said:

Dude we know who wins this no need to write a college thesis.

I'm just sick of Stormtroopers getting lowballed and toted as incompetent tbh.

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Lol me too. They DO suck in the movies but EU is where they shine.

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The 800 movie version stormtroopers are slaughtered since they can't shoot at all and have 0 ability to plan out tactics. Can't say anything about EU ones since I haven't read about them but I would assume they are better, and should be enough to overwhelm the classic team

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@beezlebub: They didn't really suck in the movies either, we just never really saw them do much. They stormed the Tantive IV taking it over, they quickly took over Bespin without the city going into a panic, they stormed through Echo base taking it over. They quickly overtook the Rebel Strike force on Endor.

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Also I just gotta bring this up, but about movie Stormtroopers they aren't as bad as some may think. Let's see why...

ANH- After the detention area thing, the Stormtroopers were ordered to let Luke and co. go. Remember what Leia said? "They let us go, it's the only reason for the ease of our escape." Remember that the Empire wanted to find the Rebel Base, what better way to do that then to track a ship heading right for it?

ESB- Stormtroopers quickly overtook Echo Base, they took over Bespin without any citizen knowing about it.

ROTJ- They overtook that Endor strike team quickly and without firing a single shot, the Rebels were done for really if it weren't for the Ewoks. Even then during that battle, it turned around for the Rebels when Chewie hijacked an AT-ST.

Also lol those saying movie Stormtroopers can't shoot. Ok...I guess everyone just forgets these scenes here?

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5:24 R2 gets blasted.

Oh and video doesn't show it, but Leia does get wounded if everyone remembers.

Also before someone brings it up about the Ewoks, take a very good look at the battle and tell me...what do you see?

I'll tell you. You see groups of Ewoks ganging up on 1 or 2 Stormtroopers in a group. At 5:06 you see at least 3 Ewoks attacking 1 Stormtrooper alone.

Everywhere else what do you see? Stormtroopers just getting knocked down before the scene switches, so how do we know what happens after? All the Stormtroopers do is get knocked down, that hardly means they are killed ESPECIALLY when their armor protects them from blunt trauma.

The Scout Troopers I will admit got screwed, but then they are riding fast on speeder bikes so that isn't exactly great for them, especially the one that drove right into rope and knocked off his bike, which the impact more than likely broke his neck considering the speed.

At 7:44 you see a large group throwing rocks at what? 3-4 Stormtroopers? When there are like what? 6-7 Ewoks up there throwing down rocks?

This isn't including the number of things going against the Stormtrooper legion(Tempest Force) such as...

1. Terrain was not suited for them at all, they didn't really know the location, the legion was just sent there to capture the Rebel Strike force which they did.

2. Chewie hijacked an AT-ST and used it against the legion, turning the battle around.

3. Rebel SpecForce Wilderness Fighters(Rebels trained for that kinda terrain, they are the Rangers of the Alliance) along with Han/Leia/Chewie were helping out the Ewoks.