This is a random encounter. who wins?
classic juggernaut vs orion
Without BFR - Juggernaut. Orion won't hurt him, but will be hurt by Juggy's punches.
without BFR or TP, classic Juggernaut.
@IZZR: I'm too smart for bears. I could beat them in chess, video games, spelling bee's and go cart racing. However if I fight one, it mauls me. To death. without BFR or TP, classic Juggernaut.
Well... if you`re out and about where there are bears, let`s hope you were smart enough to bring a rifle!
But seriously, I get your point. In a random encounter, I don`t see how smarts have, realistically, too much to do with it. You can be a `smart`fighter, but that just means you know how to monopolize on the skills you have and on the weaknesses implicit in your opponent. In that sense, I guess I can see where IZZR was coming from. As the two do not know much about one another, I`m not sure how far being smarter will get Orion.
Still not sure who would win here ultimately ...
Without BFR - Juggernaut. Orion won't hurt him, but will be hurt by Juggy's punches.
best bet is motherbox realizes once Orion knocks helmet off that he would be suceptible to a MindBlast or mental takeover ect...
if not orion not doubt eventually goes down
As per the bears, I try to just avoid them outright. they shake off gunshots too often for my tastes.
If Orion fights smart and uses the Astro Force and his skills he could pull out a win. Or BFR him with a boom tube
There isn't much Orion can really do to Juggernaut. Like Thor he'll wanna take Cain head on as a warrior but that'll be his downfall. Astro Force and physicals won't do much to help either.
Neither are puttting the other down
@_kingoflatveria: Orion isnt that hard to put down though. Nor is he that fast enough to avoid him forever. Orion also suffers from the same problem Thor does - eschewing his powers for a good brawl.
The only way Orion can win is via BFR.
@_kingoflatveria: Orion isnt that hard to put down though. Nor is he that fast enough to avoid him forever. Orion also suffers from the same problem Thor does - eschewing his powers for a good brawl.
That's not true. Orion utilizes his powers way more than Thor. He just doesn't unleash astro-force in its full fury on earth or other populated areas because of its destructive potential. Also, he's pretty hard to put down.
@the_badman: Well he still does like to brawl, doesnt he? And I didnt say he is easy to put down - but Juggs can do it.
Well he still does like to brawl, doesnt he?
Sure he does. What I meant was if he sees his opponent isn't going down, he'll resort to his other powers.
And I didnt say he is easy to put down - but Juggs can do it.
Yeah, eventually Juggs can do it.
@the_badman: Yep and I dont see him putting Juggs down or winning outside BFR.
@brucerogers: As do I. Juggernaut is possibly the best tank in comics.
@the_badman: Yep. Only wish modern writers did him more justice though.
@brucerogers: Same. He's one of my favorite villains. However he's unlikely to be utilized properly. Look at how Thor broke his tooth. Marvel is too damn inconsistent now.
@the_badman: Pretty much. Aaron is a meme.
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