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#1 Posted by Omegaman10 (540 posts) - - Show Bio
No Prep...dont underestimate classic strange even without prep 
This is superman prime when he fought monarch 
Classic Dr. Strange 
fight is....TO THE DEATH  
 
 
 
Strange #6

 
#2 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio

If people bring up the fact that Superman has a "weakness" to magic I swear...

#3 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
" If people bring up the fact that Superman has a "weakness" to magic I swear... "
Just wait... just wait...
#4 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor: Oh, I know it will happen...that's the sad part.
#5 Posted by tensor (5101 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a good battle but how is strange going to hurt him with magic

#6 Posted by Omegaman10 (540 posts) - - Show Bio

superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here...
#7 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone got the scan with SBP saying how Black Adam's magically empowered strength tickled?

#8 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
" If people bring up the fact that Superman has a "weakness" to magic I swear... "
@Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Ahahahaha!
#9 Posted by tensor (5101 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omegaman10:  not superman prime even the mordu magic had no effect an black adam when he blast him did have no effect so how does magic hurt him do  u have a scan or proof of this
#10 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Omg...................................................................................................... 
 
@Reactor: SEE?! ^^^^^^^
#11 Edited by The Son of Tomorrow (33 posts) - - Show Bio

While we're on the topic of weaknesses, here is a little known, but nonetheless true fact: Dr. Strange is susceptible to punches delivered by someone who can move planets.
 
EDIT: However, I will back Strange for the win.

#12 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Strange for the win. He has traveled faster than light, which could potentially nullify the blitzing option for Prime, and he has defeated cosmic entities before. Prime cannot defeat him. Strange wins. 

#13 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio

strange is more powerful in overall terms of power but prime still punches through him in 0.00000001 seconds
#14 Edited by Omegaman10 (540 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor:
i remember reading that but classic strange's magic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>black adams magic 
i just dont know how resistant to magic SMP is though 
 
#15 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" Classic Strange for the win. He has traveled faster than light, which could potentially nullify the blitzing option for Prime, and he has defeated cosmic entities before. Prime cannot defeat him. Strange wins.  "
For the record, I never said who would win, I just hate it when people say "Superman is weak to magic he automatically loses." ;-)
#16 Posted by TheBatman586 (6302 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Strange doesn't necessarily have to use offensive magic, he could simply send SMP to the Negative Zone or something like that.
#17 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor said:
" Anyone got the scan with SBP saying how Black Adam's magically empowered strength tickled? "
 
Here you go!
#18 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" Classic Strange for the win. He has traveled faster than light, which could potentially nullify the blitzing option for Prime, and he has defeated cosmic entities before. Prime cannot defeat him. Strange wins.  "
For the record, I never said who would win, I just hate it when people say "Superman is weak to magic he automatically loses." ;-) "
I understand, and I agree. It gets old. 
#19 Posted by Omegaman10 (540 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer:
but can he get through stranges shields....apparently (correct me if im wrong) I read somewhere here that strange's shields held up against an energy attack from Galactus.
#20 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
" @Reactor said:
" Anyone got the scan with SBP saying how Black Adam's magically empowered strength tickled? "
 
Here you go!
 
"

 
wasn't superman prime sun amped by his armor?
#21 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly don't know what Classic Strange could do to kill, let alone stop, Superman Prime. The guy survived Monarch's explosion, an explosion that took out the entire universe. What can Strange do to match that kind of destructive power.
 

 

#22 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it.
#23 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer said:
" wasn't superman prime sun amped by his armor? "
Yup! But this is the weaker version compared to what was stated in the OP...
#24 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
You are a smart smart man Ferro. I can't tell you how many times I have typed those exact words.
#25 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
EDIT: Superman has resisted being magically transformed in the past, so he does have greater resistance then the average person.
#26 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
" @Thor's hammmer said:
" wasn't superman prime sun amped by his armor? "
Yup! But this is the weaker version compared to what was stated in the OP... "
SBP wasn't amped up by the suit, it just gave him the power he needed until the sun came up. If you read TotSC, it shows SBP weakening when his suit gets destroyed (lack of sunlight to compensate) and then returning back to his insane power levels once the sun rises.
#27 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
You are a smart smart man Ferro. I can't tell you how many times I have typed those exact words. "
That's pretty impressive, because I've lost track of how many times I've had to explain it to someone -__-' Thanks all the same lol.
#28 Posted by tensor (5101 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida: you tell them ferro
#29 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad: 
 
yeah I know that I was just trying to get my facts straight
#30 Posted by The Son of Tomorrow (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Strange can win via some form of BFR, and I don't think Prime will be able to blitz Strange successfully.


#31 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
You are a smart smart man Ferro. I can't tell you how many times I have typed those exact words. "
Guys chill. I think Omegaman10's just kidding. But your arguments still remain intact, logical and precise!
#32 Posted by Silver2467 (16387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Ferro Vida said: 
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
EDIT: Superman has resisted being magically transformed in the past, so he does have greater resistance then the average person. "
Thank you! I am actually supporting Strange for the win in this, but I am also growing tired of responding to the magic argument. 
#33 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
It probably comes with the misconception that Superman is still overpowered like his Silver Age counterpart, and everybody thinks he's invulnerable to everything. So when a susceptibility besides Kryptonite, like magic or psionics comes around, everyone thinks it's a weak point when it's just the simple fact that it affects him like everyone else.
#34 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor said:
" @ssejllenrad said:
" @Thor's hammmer said:
" wasn't superman prime sun amped by his armor? "
Yup! But this is the weaker version compared to what was stated in the OP... "
SBP wasn't amped up by the suit, it just gave him the power he needed until the sun came up. If you read TotSC, it shows SBP weakening when his suit gets destroyed (lack of sunlight to compensate) and then returning back to his insane power levels once the sun rises. "
Oh yeah. I stand corrected. Not sun-amped. Sun-fed is the more accurate term.
#35 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad: Annoying just the same..
#36 Posted by The Son of Tomorrow (33 posts) - - Show Bio

FYI - Superman was given a "gift" by the Phantom Stranger, which helps shield him from magical attacks.

#37 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Son of Tomorrow said:
" FYI - Superman was given a "gift" by the Phantom Stranger, which helps shield him from magical attacks. "
But it's just as useful to him than it would be for you. He doesn't need it. It just makes him more invulnerable.
#38 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Son of Tomorrow said:
" Dr. Strange can win via some form of BFR, and I don't think Prime will be able to blitz Strange successfully.
"
We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him.
#39 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Omegaman10 said:
" superman is weak against magic soo he gets megaultrasuperstomped here... "
Superman isn't weak against magic; it affects him the same as anyone else with no magical protection. This is like saying Batman is weak against magic. It's not that he's weak against it, it's that he doesn't have any specific resistance to it. "
It probably comes with the misconception that Superman is still overpowered like his Silver Age counterpart, and everybody thinks he's invulnerable to everything. So when a susceptibility besides Kryptonite, like magic or psionics comes around, everyone thinks it's a weak point when it's just the simple fact that it affects him like everyone else. "
It's annoying, but there's a good chance that's the reason for many people.
#40 Posted by The Son of Tomorrow (33 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:

We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him. "

He was chasing a spell of death across the infinite void with the "speed of thought." I'm not sure how to interpret that though [I don't think they mean he's traveling at the same speed of electrical impulses, which is about 250 mph].
 
I'll try to find some other feats of speed for Strange I guess.
#41 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Son of Tomorrow said:
" @Ferro Vida said:

We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him. "

He was chasing a spell of death across the infinite void with the "speed of thought." I'm not sure how to interpret that though [I don't think they mean he's traveling at the same speed of electrical impulses, which is about 250 mph].  I'll try to find some other feats of speed for Strange I guess. "
Don't get me wrong, those are impressive as Hell. I had no idea Strange was that fast. But I don't see how it makes him faster then Prime.
#42 Posted by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Son of Tomorrow said:
" @Ferro Vida said:

We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him. "

He was chasing a spell of death across the infinite void with the "speed of thought." I'm not sure how to interpret that though [I don't think they mean he's traveling at the same speed of electrical impulses, which is about 250 mph].  I'll try to find some other feats of speed for Strange I guess. "

Speed of Thought is around 300 to 700 milliseconds I think, but it can vary wildly from person to person, depending on their reaction and how fast they can calculate stuff like that.
#43 Posted by The Son of Tomorrow (33 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
Don't get me wrong, those are impressive as Hell. I had no idea Strange was that fast. But I don't see how it makes him faster then Prime. "
I'm not saying he's faster than Prime, I'm just not sure how well blitzing will work.
#44 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor said:
" @The Son of Tomorrow said:
" @Ferro Vida said:

We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him. "

He was chasing a spell of death across the infinite void with the "speed of thought." I'm not sure how to interpret that though [I don't think they mean he's traveling at the same speed of electrical impulses, which is about 250 mph].  I'll try to find some other feats of speed for Strange I guess. "
Speed of Thought is around 300 to 700 milliseconds I think, but it can vary wildly from person to person, depending on their reaction and how fast they can calculate stuff like that. "
Yes, but it is nowhere near FTL and the speed of sound is faster than thought. Thought is the slowest of the three.
#45 Posted by Omegaman10 (540 posts) - - Show Bio
@tensor:
@GreenLantern555:
@Ferro Vida:

lol it was all jokes...i guess u cant really be sarcastic on the internet. 
im actually sorta annoyed by superman haters who assume that since he might be invulnerable to magic it automatically means superman loses  
didnt think anyone would take me seriously lol 
  
@ssejllenrad:  
  
thanks for having my back bud  atleast one person could tell i was kidding lol
   
#46 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Son of Tomorrow said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
Don't get me wrong, those are impressive as Hell. I had no idea Strange was that fast. But I don't see how it makes him faster then Prime. "
I'm not saying he's faster than Prime, I'm just not sure how well blitzing will work. "
Well, I think Prime should still be fast enough that he can blitz Strange if he so desires. Besides, didn't Strange need to recite incantations to use his magic?
 
@Omegaman10:
Gotcha, lol. Didn't mean to jump down your throat.
#47 Edited by Reactor (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@GreenLantern555 said:

" @Reactor said:

" @The Son of Tomorrow said:
" @Ferro Vida said:

We still don't know exactly how fast he was traveling there, or how far he traveled in that short amount of time. It says in the first scan that time was standing still, but that's relative to the speed of the people around him. "

He was chasing a spell of death across the infinite void with the "speed of thought." I'm not sure how to interpret that though [I don't think they mean he's traveling at the same speed of electrical impulses, which is about 250 mph].  I'll try to find some other feats of speed for Strange I guess. "
Speed of Thought is around 300 to 700 milliseconds I think, but it can vary wildly from person to person, depending on their reaction and how fast they can calculate stuff like that. "
Yes, but it is nowhere near FTL and the speed of sound is faster than thought. Thought is the slowest of the three. "
Oh, yeah. Don't get me wrong, I well know. This came up a long time ago with the Flash in some thread. Speed of Thought is fast, but is slower than sound, and especially light.
@Omegaman10 said:

" @tensor:
@GreenLantern555:
@Ferro Vida:

lol it was all jokes...i guess u cant really be sarcastic on the internet. 
im actually sorta annoyed by superman haters who assume that since he might be invulnerable to magic it automatically means superman loses  
didnt think anyone would take me seriously lol 
  
@ssejllenrad:  
  
thanks for having my back bud  atleast one person could tell i was kidding lol    "

In all seriousness, I think everyone knew you were joking. How they respond to said humor, however, is a different story.
#48 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor: I didn't honestly know he was joking. I've seen the same-such crazy claims made numerous times.
#49 Posted by GreenLantern555 (2169 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reactor: Yeah, I was in that debate. ;-) 
 
@Omegaman10: Sorry brada. It's just a touchy situation. ;-)
#50 Posted by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

How the hell do people measure the speed of thought with respect to distance?