Classic Dr. Strange vs Fernus & H'El

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Classic Dr. Strange vs Fernus & H'El

Fernus & H'El get 3 hours of prep.

Fight takes place on an uninhabited Earth.

Victory can be achieved by KO or death.

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

I'm gonna back Strange here. Neither one has a specific resistance against magic IIRC.

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Classic Dr Strange FTW!!!!!!

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I'm thinking Classic Strange wins here, although an argument could be made for team 2, probably a weak argument, but an argument nonetheless.

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#7 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

I'm really not sure strange wins, but some one can convince me.

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@hulkman123 said:

@eternityx: @jwwprod: @juiceboks:

I've given the team GL rings and 3 hours of prep time.

Have both H'EL and Fernus used a GL ring before? if not then you violating the rules:

Giving Characters Certain 'buffs' or Removing Powers

I generally don't have a problem with this, as long as it's not overdone. Things like upgrading certain characters to a certain physical levels, or removing powers for two opponents to gauge hand-to-hand skills is fine as long as the fight is fair in the process. However, giving people like Hulk the Power Cosmic or people like Nightwing a Green Lantern ring is unacceptable because neither character has displayed the skill and/or competence to use such weapons/items. That said, it would be difficult (and in most cases, nearly impossible) for people to debate. Threads of this nature will be locked if it becomes an issue.

So you better take away the GL rings fast (unless both H'EL and Fernus used a GL ring before).

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I'm really not sure strange wins, but some one can convince me.

In a random encounter Strange would more than likely lose against either of the character, but i am expecting you will get some out of context scan of him beating InBetweener with a plot device, or fighting LT (where he outright admits LT could kill him and earth with a thought) or him defeating a hungry starving Galactus who was already shrinking and struggling with the likes of Thing and Thor.

Strange power level is massively over-blown on comicvine, consistency shows him without the said auto-shield more often than the other way around, and while he was always powerful enough to blow up a planet and at times even control supernova, after having tapped into his mystic artifacts thats as high as his power goes.

He could likely take 1 of them, he cant take both, and honestly either of them have a good chance to solo.

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#10  Edited By reaverlation

Fernus destroys his mind

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@jwwprod said:

@hulkman123 said:

@eternityx: @jwwprod: @juiceboks:

I've given the team GL rings and 3 hours of prep time.

Have both H'EL and Fernus used a GL ring before? if not then you violating the rules:

Giving Characters Certain 'buffs' or Removing Powers

I generally don't have a problem with this, as long as it's not overdone. Things like upgrading certain characters to a certain physical levels, or removing powers for two opponents to gauge hand-to-hand skills is fine as long as the fight is fair in the process. However, giving people like Hulk the Power Cosmic or people like Nightwing a Green Lantern ring is unacceptable because neither character has displayed the skill and/or competence to use such weapons/items. That said, it would be difficult (and in most cases, nearly impossible) for people to debate. Threads of this nature will be locked if it becomes an issue.

So you better take away the GL rings fast (unless both H'EL and Fernus used a GL ring before).

The GL rings are gone, but they still have 3 hours of prep.

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#12  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@killemall: Thanks for having the unbiased, officially siding with Team.

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Strange gives a good curbstomp lesson to this 2 clowns

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Fernus destroys his mind

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Also, I believe the eye of Agamotto grants a very high resistance to telepathy, illusions and more.

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@jwwprod said:

Classic Dr Strange FTW!!!!!!

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I think classic Strange wins. His shields took a hit from Galactus if I'm not mistaken.

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I'm gonna back Strange here. Neither one has a specific resistance against magic IIRC.

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#21  Edited By Straynger

Classic Strange is too much for the team.

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#22  Edited By theONEtaichou

@mr_ingenuity said:

I'm really not sure strange wins, but some one can convince me.

In a random encounter Strange would more than likely lose against either of the character, but i am expecting you will get some out of context scan of him beating InBetweener with a plot device, or fighting LT (where he outright admits LT could kill him and earth with a thought) or him defeating a hungry starving Galactus who was already shrinking and struggling with the likes of Thing and Thor.

Strange power level is massively over-blown on comicvine, consistency shows him without the said auto-shield more often than the other way around, and while he was always powerful enough to blow up a planet and at times even control supernova, after having tapped into his mystic artifacts thats as high as his power goes.

He could likely take 1 of them, he cant take both, and honestly either of them have a good chance to solo.

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@mr_ingenuity said:

I'm really not sure strange wins, but some one can convince me.

In a random encounter Strange would more than likely lose against either of the character, but i am expecting you will get some out of context scan of him beating InBetweener with a plot device, or fighting LT (where he outright admits LT could kill him and earth with a thought) or him defeating a hungry starving Galactus who was already shrinking and struggling with the likes of Thing and Thor.

Strange power level is massively over-blown on comicvine, consistency shows him without the said auto-shield more often than the other way around, and while he was always powerful enough to blow up a planet and at times even control supernova, after having tapped into his mystic artifacts thats as high as his power goes.

He could likely take 1 of them, he cant take both, and honestly either of them have a good chance to solo.

lol you forgot my famous "or where Thanos was afraid of him" one sorry about that i actually read the issue, and realize i was wrong. still i think Classic Strange can win this... didnt he stalemate Warlock who had the infinity gauntlet at the time?

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@kidman560: Warlock made no attempt to harm Strange until Warlock used the power gem even then Strange has no chance.

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@kidman560: Warlock made no attempt to harm Strange until Warlock used the power gem even then Strange has no chance.

made no attempt to harm him. didnt he try to suck him into the freaking soul gem? that sounds rather aggressive to me? but i dont have the scans ill see if i can find them

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#26 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@kidman560: No the only gem that was never used in that conflict was the soul gem.

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@kidman560: No the only gem that was never used in that conflict was the soul gem.

ok i am clearly mis remembering than... but also in that time the Power Gem was actually a power gem and wasnt some common house hold trinket that everyone gets they're hands on

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Dr Strange might lose if he's not properly prepped against H'el & Fernus, both of which could demantle his mystical reality warping. In addition, Dr Strange's shield has been broken by Hulk's stregth, something that both of team 2 could do with a pinky attack. In addition, H'el matter manipulation far would prove valuable against his magic to cancel it out, thus allowing one of team 2 members to KO or murder him.

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#29  Edited By Ondskapt666

@killemall said:
@mr_ingenuity said:

I'm really not sure strange wins, but some one can convince me.

In a random encounter Strange would more than likely lose against either of the character, but i am expecting you will get some out of context scan of him beating InBetweener with a plot device, or fighting LT (where he outright admits LT could kill him and earth with a thought) or him defeating a hungry starving Galactus who was already shrinking and struggling with the likes of Thing and Thor.

Strange power level is massively over-blown on comicvine, consistency shows him without the said auto-shield more often than the other way around, and while he was always powerful enough to blow up a planet and at times even control supernova, after having tapped into his mystic artifacts thats as high as his power goes.

He could likely take 1 of them, he cant take both, and honestly either of them have a good chance to solo.

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@ondskapt666: Classic Strange is always going to be overrated in comicvine, there isnt much we can do about it.

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The duo.

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@ondskapt666: Classic Strange is always going to be overrated in comicvine, there isnt much we can do about it.

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I've always heard of classic strange's power levels being high on the vine and I was just curious if anyone had some feats

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Team.

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#36  Edited By Ondskapt666

@killemall said:

@ondskapt666: Classic Strange is always going to be overrated in comicvine, there isnt much we can do about it.

Tired of people over playing characters power levels and abilities. This includes Dr. Strange, Hulk, Joker and so many more! I'm debating a guy that thinks Joker would win in a fight against Iron Man LOL