cinder vs human torch

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i think cinder

How hot can cinder go?

Cinder stomps. He's a much more polished fighter and Idk think that Johnny can recover from a 70-hit combo.

@carter_esque: But couldn't Johnny just go nova on him? I thought Cinder's hottest heat was lava.

johnny hands down complete control over heat and fire, is faster and a great fighter yeah cinders done for

Cinder probably looses, but just because Cinder is just so under developed. IDK how hot Cinder can get, but he is pretty fast, and most likely is a better fighter than Johnny. But Johnny can control heat outside of his own body so he can more than likely sufficate Cinder from afar.

IMO Torch wins.

jhnoony,

HUMAN TORCH EASY WIN

Who's Cinder and what feats has he done?