Chuck Greene vs. Jill Valentine

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Jill Valentine by far. Survival skills on another level.

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#3  Edited By Matezoide2

Chuck = kills and bullies hordes of Zombies without even trying,including super-human zombies that were taking gun shots to the face and being unharmed
Jill = struggles with 5
 
Greene wins

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Jill should win here.

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#5  Edited By Fragneto

RE zombies are far more durable and tactical. Have enhanced strength and extra specialties. 
DR zombies are too fragile and practically already brain dead. 
 
 
RE zombies >>>>>>>>>>>> DR zombies 
Jill having trouble with 5 RE zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck mowing the lawn against hordes of DR zombies.

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#6  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@Fragneto said:
RE zombies are far more durable and tactical. Have enhanced strength and extra specialties. DR zombies are too fragile and practically already brain dead.   RE zombies >>>>>>>>>>>> DR zombies Jill having trouble with 5 RE zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck mowing the lawn against hordes of DR zombies.
RE5 Zombies kinda remind me of Las Plagas, they were smart and able to use their minds. 
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#7  Edited By Matezoide2
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it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's,Jill isnt able to go blow for blow with then unlike Greene 

  Seriously,what evidence do you have Resident Evil's zombies are superior to Dead Rising's? Jill's crappy knife attack is pathetic compared to a punch a regular human being could throw. 

Plus,assuming Resident Evil's were better,Jill fights 2 at a time,Chuck fights dozens at the same time,quantity beats quality this time,and that's ignoring Jill actualy has a gun and a knife,while Chuck uses weaker material

RE 5 zombies are inferior to your average gun for hire,Chuck mowed throug then several times during the game
 
  then there are these,who got teared apart by Greene
  
 
Gas Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resident Evil zombies
 
and lets not forget Chuck actualy fights human beings with actual inteligence and skills,while Jill has been fighting mind-less creatures for the majority of her carrer,with the exception of one instance where she was still an enchanced human and had Josh's help
 

Chuck wins
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@Matezoide said:

@Fragneto
it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's,Jill isnt able to go blow for blow with then unlike Greene 

  Seriously,what evidence do you have Resident Evil's zombies are superior to Dead Rising's? Jill's crappy knife attack is pathetic compared to a punch a regular human being could throw. 

Plus,assuming Resident Evil's were better,Jill fights 2 at a time,Chuck fights dozens at the same time,quantity beats quality this time,and that's ignoring Jill actualy has a gun and a knife,while Chuck uses weaker material

RE 5 zombies are inferior to your average gun for hire,Chuck mowed throug then several times during the game
 
  then there are these,who got teared apart by Greene
  

 
Gas Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resident Evil zombies
 
and lets not forget Chuck actualy fights human beings with actual inteligence and skills,while Jill has been fighting mind-less creatures for the majority of her carrer,with the exception of one instance where she was still an enchanced human and had Josh's help  Chuck wins
That's right.
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Jill wins

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#11  Edited By Sissel
@MonsterObsessor said:
@Matezoide said:

@Fragneto
it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's,Jill isnt able to go blow for blow with then unlike Greene 

  Seriously,what evidence do you have Resident Evil's zombies are superior to Dead Rising's? Jill's crappy knife attack is pathetic compared to a punch a regular human being could throw. 

Plus,assuming Resident Evil's were better,Jill fights 2 at a time,Chuck fights dozens at the same time,quantity beats quality this time,and that's ignoring Jill actualy has a gun and a knife,while Chuck uses weaker material

RE 5 zombies are inferior to your average gun for hire,Chuck mowed throug then several times during the game
 
  then there are these,who got teared apart by Greene
  

 
Gas Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resident Evil zombies
 
and lets not forget Chuck actualy fights human beings with actual inteligence and skills,while Jill has been fighting mind-less creatures for the majority of her carrer,with the exception of one instance where she was still an enchanced human and had Josh's help  Chuck wins
That's right.
I agree on certain points. Chuck might lose if Jill is blood lusted like in RE5 where she is controlled by Wesker.
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#12  Edited By saiyan_earthling

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#13  Edited By Fragneto
@Matezoide said:
@Fragneto
it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's,Jill isnt able to go blow for blow with then unlike Greene 

  Seriously,what evidence do you have Resident Evil's zombies are superior to Dead Rising's? Jill's crappy knife attack is pathetic compared to a punch a regular human being could throw. 

Plus,assuming Resident Evil's were better,Jill fights 2 at a time,Chuck fights dozens at the same time,quantity beats quality this time,and that's ignoring Jill actualy has a gun and a knife,while Chuck uses weaker material

RE 5 zombies are inferior to your average gun for hire,Chuck mowed throug then several times during the game
 
  then there are these,who got teared apart by Greene
  
 
Gas Zombies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resident Evil zombies
 
and lets not forget Chuck actualy fights human beings with actual inteligence and skills,while Jill has been fighting mind-less creatures for the majority of her carrer,with the exception of one instance where she was still an enchanced human and had Josh's help  Chuck wins
 
I understand your points, but I'm not going to agree with them. 
You say that it takes a few rounds to kill your average RE zombie? That's because Jill, Ada, Chris, Leon, and Claire are professional marksmen that know exactly where to shoot them. 
 
That video you posted with the Gas Zombies doesn't mean much because you have a hand full of armed troops with machine guns spraying at the zombies arrogantly. 
 
In RE it takes about 30 rounds to kill a zombie if you spray it arrogantly like that. (the best weapons in RE are the hand guns because they have the best head popping ratios) 
 
You are talking about Jill's weak knife? Her kicks alone can smash heads in. Just imagine that kick meeting with Chuck's head. 
 
 
RE zomibes durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DR zomibes 
 
 
 Watch how many rounds the RE zombies eat before they go down 
 
   
 
  
   
 
 
 
And RE zombies are also tactical. 
 
 
   
I can see why Jill would have a hard time with just 5 of them. However... 
 
 
Chuck won't stand a chance.
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#14  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
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Almost every zombie in RE can go down with a single headshot,same as DR.
 
Jill commonly has trouble with two or three zombies,while Chuck can kill thousands without a care in the world.And if your gonna say that Two RE zombies are superior to thousands of DR zombies you must be pretty horrible at RE.
 
Chuck also has superior weaponry.He can simply run her down with a motorcycle if he wants to.
 
Every human in the DR universe are quite durable and can take multiple bullets.Chuck can get caught on fire,shot,and nearly sliced in half with a chainsaw without dying,and if he ever needs to heal he can simply ride away on a skateboard and drink some orange juice.
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@MarvelJackAss433: ROFLMAO! Jill can kill the same amount of zombies just with a knife and her bare hands! I think you need to play Mercenary and see for yourself that Jill can face more than 10 zombies at once coming at her constantly. In DR you can kill zombies just by running them over with a wheel chair or a cart. These zombies have no durability. They are fragile as glass compared to the more powerful and smarter RE zombies.
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#16  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@Fragneto: Show me Jill killing thousands of zombies.Now.
You have yet to prove they are any more durable.Jill can easily be killed by one slice of a chainsaw,and she isn't skilled at all by feats.
 
She would easily get killed by any of the Psychos Chuck faces.She has low durability.She's just as fragile as any DR zombie,and Chuck would kill her in a heartbeat.Your simply making statements you can't backup.One shot can kill a RE zombie,one shot kills a DR zombie.Simple as that.
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#17  Edited By Noah Kenshiki
@MarvelJackAss433 said:
@Fragneto: Show me Jill killing thousands of zombies.Now. You have yet to prove they are any more durable.Jill can easily be killed by one slice of a chainsaw,and she isn't skilled at all by feats.  She would easily get killed by any of the Psychos Chuck faces.She has low durability.She's just as fragile as any DR zombie,and Chuck would kill her in a heartbeat.Your simply making statements you can't backup.One shot can kill a RE zombie,one shot kills a DR zombie.Simple as that.
So can Chuck
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#18  Edited By tron_bonne
@MarvelJackAss433: Actually in Easy mode, it takes two shots to kill a zombie. In regular, 5 shots if you are not lucky enough to hit the head. In hard mode, the zombies can take 10 shots, and the only way to effectively kill them is by shooting a limb and performing a special move. (ie: Neck breaker, side kick or Knee drop)
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#19  Edited By OhItsThatGuy

Jill took down Nemesis. How is this even up for debate?
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#20  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@OhItsThatGuy: Chuck has taken down Psychos,who are basically superhuman.
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Nope.It only takes one chainsaw slice to kill Jill,while Chuck can take dozens and then simply drink a soda and keep fighting.
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@MarvelJackAss433: Psychos can't even destroy a restroom properly. Jill has fought zombies that can literally smash down brick walls like the Executor.
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#22  Edited By OhItsThatGuy
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The psychos are nowhere near the level of Nemesis. Melee attacks were able to take those things down. Nemesis had been shot at an insane amount of times, had been blown up many times, had been thrown into fire, had been thrown into acid, had been electrocuted, had been hit with a charge canon many times, and was still alive.

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#23  Edited By Noah Kenshiki
@MarvelJackAss433: Thats called game mechanics, and it holds no weight in an argument., especially since Jill has never been hit by a chainsaw, in the series in canon, which means she has enough skill to avoid chainsaws. Those same mechanics also apply to Chuck because it's possible to beat the guy with a chainsaw without taking a single hit. Most of Chuck's feats are done purely based on game mechanics and how the player uses him. You mentioned that Chuck killed thousands of zombies, but show me that he has killed thousands of zombies in canon, because again it's entirely up to the player how many zombies they end up killing. Also Chuck can kill lots of zombies because he has access to a larger variety of weapons in his own world, that can cause alot more damage to a larger group of zombies than the weapons Jill normally has access too. Give her the same access and she could do what Chuck can do. The only difference being she has actual training in combat, and is vastly more experienced than Chuck in dealing with these kind of threats, but none of that should matter because they are not facing zombies, they are facing each other, but if you wanna bring Zombies into it, Jill has faced ones that are more intelligent and tactical than the ones Chuck has faced, and yes Chuck has faced humans, but most of them were crazy, scared and not in the right state of mind. All of whom Jill could have taken down. Just look at her fight against Chris and Sheva. Chuck is nowhere near her level in hand to hand or using weapons. She outclasses him in every single way that matters. 
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#24  Edited By alcoholbob
@Matezoide said:

@Fragneto
it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's

It actually takes around 13 bullets to kill an average zombie, if we are talking about back when Jill was the actual protagonist.
 
Plus in Resident Evil, most of the time you have like 10 bullets and you are swarmed by 5 or 6 zombies. Jill is all about improvisation. She can simply do more with less and when either side runs out of ammo, the advantage is on her side.
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#25  Edited By Fragneto
@alcoholbob said:
@Matezoide said:

@Fragneto
it takes a few bullets to kill your average Zombie in Resident Evil,same for Dead Rising's

It actually takes around 13 bullets to kill an average zombie, if we are talking about back when Jill was the actual protagonist. Plus in Resident Evil, most of the time you have like 10 bullets and you are swarmed by 5 or 6 zombies. Jill is all about improvisation. She can simply do more with less and when either side runs out of ammo, the advantage is on her side.
That's what I've been trying to say. RE games are about conserving your ammo until after you finished the game for the 1st time.
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#26  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@Noah Kenshiki: If we can't use game mechanics,what CAN we use?Chuck has done absolutely nothing in the cutscenes or story.The whole point of gameplay is to show what a character is capable of,and it clearly shows that Chuck is capable of such feats,considering he kills hundreds of zombies on a regular basis.
 
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The psychos had abilities such as teleportation(Restroom Hippy),Super Endurance(Nearly all of them),Vast healing abilities(Cannibal chef),telepathic connections(Fluffy & Tiger Caretaker),And access to explosives and powerful ordnance (Mailman).
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#27  Edited By OhItsThatGuy

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Nemesis has tracking abilities, sniping abilities, access to a rocket launcher(later tentacles), superb H2H,  enhanced speed, super strength, inhuman durability, healing factor, and incredible will. Throughout the game, the thing never stops going after you. Jill had to deal with him and hosts of other monsters.

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@MarvelJackAss433
: The Restroom Hippy teleport? lol  I have a totally logical explanation for that. But I'll let teleportation pass. That was pretty funny.
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#29  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@tron_bonne: What is that explanation?How he can jump into a stall on one side of the room and then appear in one on the complete other side?
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#30  Edited By tron_bonne
@MarvelJackAss433: By the tiled ceiling. He is just really fast. I'm sure the game implies that but due to game mechanics and already filled bandwidth being used, it doesn't actually show him jump up and open the tiles. This is so that you can guess where he comes out of.
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#31  Edited By MarvelJackAss433
@tron_bonne: What the game implies is what the game's facts are :P
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Chuck stomps..

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Chuck Greene combine some badass wheelchair with an jetpack and rifle also a police shield and then just fly up and kill her.