Rules:
No potions are allowed. Both can use the spells they know of. All can use individual powers except Billie's projection power. Fight takes place in Chance Harbor. who wins
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@charlieboy said:
@bornstar: For those of us who haven't watched the secret circle.... what are their powers?
They basically have tk and some elemental control like fire starting, but they are mostly spell casters.
The Charmed Ones should stomp more experienced, too versatile as far as individual powers and their spells had more powerful results, and then there is the fact that they can also physically beat the crap out of the Secret Circle kids.
@LordOfAllHumans: Piper could freeze them and then blow them all up. Lol. or Paige could orb them into the underworld.
@charlieboy said:
@LordOfAllHumans: Piper could freeze them and then blow them all up. Lol. or Paige could orb them into the underworld.
Piper can't freeze witches.
That said, the normal 3 sisters stomp. Throwing in Prue and Billy just adds insult to injury.
@austyn12090: She can't freeze good witches from her universe. Her powers worked fine on Billie and her Christie. Are all of these secret circle characters good?
@austyn12090 said:
@charlieboy said:
@LordOfAllHumans: Piper could freeze them and then blow them all up. Lol. or Paige could orb them into the underworld.
Piper can't freeze witches.
That said, the normal 3 sisters stomp. Thrwing in Prue and Billy just adds insult to injury.
Piper can't freeze good witches from her universe, and that was not as consistent as the show progressed, a telepath channeled her power to freeze a room full of students from the magic school, for the most part they are good withces since evil early on could not enter the shcool but it could be let in and the school is run by the elders and would be dedicated to good magic .
Even so the two most powerful members (Cassie and Diana) of the Secret Cirlce are dark witches, a large portion of their power comes from evil, and it's in their blood. Faye and Jake shouldn't be considerd good witches either. She constantly uses her powers for personal gain and nearly killed her friends, and Jake is a former witch hunter who used his power to kill innocent people.
@charlieboy: Good is really a relative term. None of them are selfless demon hunters, but none of them murder innocent people. It would depend on what's considered to be good. If it's anything that's not evil, then I don't see them getting frozen. Charmed had really black and white morals, so it's hard to say.
@LordOfAllHumans said:
Even so the two most powerful members (Cassie and Diana) of the Secret Cirlce are dark witches, a large portion of their power comes from evil, and it's in their blood. Faye and Jake shouldn't be considerd good witches either. She constantly uses her powers for personal gain and nearly killed her friends, and Jake is a former witch hunter who used his power to kill innocent people.
If dark magic and good magic are both present, then personality should be what's judged. Diana and Cassie are 2 of the most moral of the circle. I'll agree with you on Faye, but I want to point out that she didn't know siphoning Cassie's power would endanger the rest of the circle, or even Cassie for that matter. Jake's reformed. I might even argue that he thought he was doing the right thing during his witch hunter days and was manipulated into thinking those people were evil.
@austyn12090 said:
@LordOfAllHumans said:
Even so the two most powerful members (Cassie and Diana) of the Secret Cirlce are dark witches, a large portion of their power comes from evil, and it's in their blood. Faye and Jake shouldn't be considerd good witches either. She constantly uses her powers for personal gain and nearly killed her friends, and Jake is a former witch hunter who used his power to kill innocent people.
If dark magic and good magic are both present, then personality should be what's judged. Diana and Cassie are 2 of the most moral of the circle. I'll agree with you on Faye, but I want to point out that she didn't know siphoning Cassie's power would endanger the rest of the circle, or even Cassie for that matter. Jake's reformed. I might even argue that he thought he was doing the right thing during his witch hunter days and was manipulated into thinking those people were evil.
But in the case of their dark magic the personaility does not matter. It is a different form of magic than the power they got from their mothers family and it's in their blood. Cassie frequently lost herself to her dark magic and killed a man and attacked Adam. Further proof that their personailities and morals have nothing to do with being considered dark witches, is the spell Adams grandfather cast that only worked on dark witches and this before Diana finds out she has dark magic, it repelled them because the nature of their power which is evil. I don't see why Pipers power wouldn't determine the nature of their power and freeze them the way it does anything else considered evil that is not immune to her power.
When Cole was good and reformed Piper could still freeze him, because his power came from evil. Christie was also manipulated into thinking she was doing the right thing, but she was still considered evil by the standard of how Charmed judges such things. Paige almost became an evil witch even though she was being manipulated by the Source into thinking she was doing the right thing in her first appearance.
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