#1 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (842 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by niBBit (718 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Earth takes this.

#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (10614 posts) - - Show Bio

If Onslaught is meant to save us...I'll take death by Celestial :D

#4 Posted by bansheesonicscream (119 posts) - - Show Bio

who is the girl with pink hair in the right?and who is the phoenix girl behind?

#5 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@bansheesonicscream said:

who is the girl with pink hair in the right?and who is the phoenix girl behind?

I was wondering too.

#6 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth wins 

#7 Posted by capall2 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth shall be saved...

#8 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@bansheesonicscream said:

who is the girl with pink hair in the right?and who is the phoenix girl behind?

I was wondering too.

i think the pink haired girl is Psylocke in her original body during Age of X reality.. the other was Revenant, who was actually Rachel Summer's consciousness that manifested in the Age of X reality as well..

#9 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_oraculous016 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@bansheesonicscream said:

who is the girl with pink hair in the right?and who is the phoenix girl behind?

I was wondering too.

i think the pink haired girl is Psylocke in her original body during Age of X reality.. the other was Revenant, who was actually Rachel Summer's consciousness that manifested in the Age of X reality as well..

ok thanks.

#10 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth wins.

#11 Posted by cosmic_reign (345 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Earth definately has a good chance to win against the 4th Host. BUT, if u add TOAA to the 4th Host, team Earth loses. Technically TOAA isn't part of any Celestial Host but their master that oversees everything from their mothership.

#12 Posted by YoungJustice (6779 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope there just fighting the cestinals listed........

#13 Posted by demifiendninja (299 posts) - - Show Bio

phoenix solos

#14 Posted by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

i highly doubt the phoenix would solo....

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@bansheesonicscream said:

who is the girl with pink hair in the right?and who is the phoenix girl behind?

I was wondering too.

Legion looks like a badass here.

#16 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10438 posts) - - Show Bio

Pheonix ain't soloin. But earth can take this.

#17 Posted by YoungJustice (6779 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth heroes

#18 Posted by othus12 (211 posts) - - Show Bio

earth would win.

#19 Edited by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth takes this

#20 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9187 posts) - - Show Bio
@X_insignia1 said:

Earth takes this

They probably do. 
Although, it makes me wonder..with the battle against Galactus. 
Could the entire 4th Host fuse into one powerful Celestial to take them on? 
Might seem a little far fetched 
 
  
 
 
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#21 Posted by ShootingNova (16226 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this the entire race of Celestials? That would be 4 billion.

#22 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

If Onslaught is meant to save us...I'll take death by Celestial :D

hahahahahh .

@OmegaDynasty said:

They probably do.
Although, it makes me wonder..with the battle against Galactus.
Could the entire 4th Host fuse into one powerful Celestial to take them on?
Might seem a little far fetched

We dont know if 616 Celestials can fuse, those were from Earth 4280 and marvel has always regarded abstracts level from 616 universe to me the most powerful so safe to assume Celestials are more powerful than the one Galactus fought.

Celestials have TP, as shown by Red Celestials in Thor: The Black Galaxy Saga as well as by Tiamut (sorry not an average celestial but whatever) during Eternal Volume 2 (but the dude was resurrecting dead kid and doing what not, so yeah not sure if that counts). So i think they can handle Trion.

Rachel Summers as Phoenix could take on few but not all the celestials by herself.

With powers of Galactus Doom likely can take on one or two celestials, dont see him taking on a lot more.

Iron Man with celestial Armor would probably lose outright to any celestial he fights.

Problem is with RKT, Legion at full powers and Adult Franklin.

Earth would probably win but its a lot closer than what people are making out to be.

#23 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

Is this the entire race of Celestials? That would be 4 billion.

Well 1 of them would be Scanthan, and feats would mean he can kick everyone's butt here. :p

#24 Posted by ShootingNova (16226 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: There's also Arishem, who wasn't even scratched by Odin, Zeus and Vishnu's combined attack, OAA, Ziran (who has effortlessly shrugged off planet-destroying blows) etc.

#25 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Killemall: There's also Arishem, who wasn't even scratched by Odin, Zeus and Vishnu's combined attack, OAA, Ziran (who has effortlessly shrugged off planet-destroying blows) etc.

Arishem has to be there, we even have him in the scan with thumbs pointing sideways (the first scan), that being said i think that's a fair estimate of a Celestial's power level. It has been confirmed at least 2 times, once by The Watcher and the other by Kubik's testimony, that Franklin Richard (as a kid) is on same level as an average celestial (presumably when not holding back), and Kid Franklin has gone to Hades and stomped Memphisto despite him being amped by Dire's Warth, so celestial at the very least are close to Galactus in terms of power level.

OAA is featless , to the best of my knowledge, i do not know who Ziran is but shrugging off an planet destroying blow is average showing for a celestials. Red Celestial during Thor: The Black Galaxy Saga was apparently hit by Eric Masterson Thor with a planet busting attack, as the description would suggest, and wasnt even harmed. Then we have Adjuctor who was attacked by everyone on earth without him even noticing any of their attack, Galactus shows up and agrees Adjuctor outclasses him when he increased his size to dwarf that of even Galactus. So thats a fairly average showings.

#26 Posted by ShootingNova (16226 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Yeah. OAA has been so powerful Thor cannot harm him in any way and has shown telekinesis, matter and energy manipulation, teleportation and reality-warping (though all of those could be achieved by any Celestial). I believe OAA can also generate blasts of greater than planet-destroying level. And that's about it, so yeah, his feats aren't exactly too impressive for a Celestial, except it's stated he is the most powerful of them, so that's got to be something.

Ziran the Tester has destroyed the uni-mind and Destroyer Armour, and along with 4 other Celestials, defeated Tiamat the Dreaming Celestial. Oh, and Tiamat should be here as well.

#27 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Killemall: Yeah. OAA has been so powerful Thor cannot harm him in any way and has shown telekinesis, matter and energy manipulation, teleportation and reality-warping (though all of those could be achieved by any Celestial). I believe OAA can also generate blasts of greater than planet-destroying level. And that's about it, so yeah, his feats aren't exactly too impressive for a Celestial, except it's stated he is the most powerful of them, so that's got to be something.

Oh that i did not know but like you said its just a very average showing for a celestial. Tiamut, after having just woken up from him sleep , in a weakened state something he expressely mentioned was apparently powerful enough to destroy an entire solar system, its something he said he can go to Makkari and given that celestials are robots incapable of deception i dont see why that would be false.

As far as being the most powerful of them all, the same goes for Tiamut and even for Areshem, in fact the scan in OP also says he's the most powerful. Its an iffy statement. Feat wise Scanthan's feat outclasses everyone's anyways.

Ziran the Tester has destroyed the uni-mind and Destroyer Armour, and along with 4 other Celestials, defeated Tiamat the Dreaming Celestial. Oh, and Tiamat should be here as well.

Uni-mind, from the Eternals? if thats the case its a very average showing too, and beating Tiamut is good but it was 4 vs 1 so yeah.

Tiamut after their first wave is generally no considered within the fourth host, he is a renegade celestial, who strives for equality and rebelled against destruction of life when considered unworthy, and was left in earth. It was only after than Arishem became the leader of the pack.

#28 Posted by ShootingNova (16226 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: It was the Destroyer Armour Odin infused with the souls of all the Asgardians (minus Thor) and was also powered by the Uni-Mind, and it got one-shotted by Ziran, causing both the armour and the Uni-Mind to be destroyed.

#29 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Killemall: It was the Destroyer Armour Odin infused with the souls of all the Asgardians (minus Thor) and was also powered by the Uni-Mind, and it got one-shotted by Ziran, causing both the armour and the Uni-Mind to be destroyed.

Oh sorry, then its a pretty good showing, but most celestials should be able to replicate that much, or something at that level.

#30 Posted by ShootingNova (16226 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Yeah. Also, I believe OAA was stated to be the most powerful Celestial in the handbook, not just random statements.

#31 Posted by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmegaDynasty said:

@X_insignia1 said:

Earth takes this

They probably do.
Although, it makes me wonder..with the battle against Galactus.
Could the entire 4th Host fuse into one powerful Celestial to take them on?
Might seem a little far fetched

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Good point, Hickman also recently just confirmed that the Mad Celestials are equivalent to their 616 counter parts in terms of power on form spring

#32 Posted by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Shawnbaby said:

If Onslaught is meant to save us...I'll take death by Celestial :D

hahahahahh .

@OmegaDynasty said:

They probably do.
Although, it makes me wonder..with the battle against Galactus.
Could the entire 4th Host fuse into one powerful Celestial to take them on?
Might seem a little far fetched

We dont know if 616 Celestials can fuse, those were from Earth 4280 and marvel has always regarded abstracts level from 616 universe to me the most powerful so safe to assume Celestials are more powerful than the one Galactus fought.

Celestials have TP, as shown by Red Celestials in Thor: The Black Galaxy Saga as well as by Tiamut (sorry not an average celestial but whatever) during Eternal Volume 2 (but the dude was resurrecting dead kid and doing what not, so yeah not sure if that counts). So i think they can handle Trion.

Rachel Summers as Phoenix could take on few but not all the celestials by herself.

With powers of Galactus Doom likely can take on one or two celestials, dont see him taking on a lot more.

Iron Man with celestial Armor would probably lose outright to any celestial he fights.

Problem is with RKT, Legion at full powers and Adult Franklin.

Earth would probably win but its a lot closer than what people are making out to be.

In regards to the Mad Celestials power...

http://4ms.me/NKKpvE

MrAnathema:

"Are the Celestials of Earth-4280 equal to their 616 counterparts?"

Jonathan Hickman:

"In what way? Power? Sure."

Awesome. Another mystery solved! Very cool of him to respond so quickly

#33 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@X_insignia1 said:

In regards to the Mad Celestials power...

http://4ms.me/NKKpvE

MrAnathema:

"Are the Celestials of Earth-4280 equal to their 616 counterparts?"

Jonathan Hickman:

"In what way? Power? Sure."

Awesome. Another mystery solved! Very cool of him to respond so quickly

haha was that you who asked?

Well if writer outright says so then who am i to disagree.

#34 Edited by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@X_insignia1 said:

In regards to the Mad Celestials power...

http://4ms.me/NKKpvE

MrAnathema:

"Are the Celestials of Earth-4280 equal to their 616 counterparts?"

Jonathan Hickman:

"In what way? Power? Sure."

Awesome. Another mystery solved! Very cool of him to respond so quickly

haha was that you who asked?

Well if writer outright says so then who am i to disagree.

it was actually another poster from another site/forum, we/they've been asking Hickman's question Many questions that transpired during the Franklin/galactus mad celestial battle to clear things up, so far Adult Franklin wasn't amped by his younger counterpart, young franklin's energies were soley used for reviving/resurrecting Galactus, he stated Galactus was "recharged/resurrected"/powered by young Franklin, Adult Franklin never died within, far as Galactus dying, he said he'd rather leave it up for interpretation , so eh

http://4ms.me/NMNuLE < regarding the blue orb

http://4ms.me/SbOIaO < if Frankie died or not during the battle

http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHi...140162905334166regarding if Galactus died or not

#35 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

If I remembered correctly, it have been stated that Exitar's power dwarfed all of the 4th hosts.

#36 Posted by X_insignia1 (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

Imo i would put Exitar an thee voltron celestial around the same level, power wise

#37 Edited by lol (4533 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth gets this