#1 Posted by BigCimmerian (8863 posts) - - Show Bio

- Odin is wearing the destroyer armor and has odinsword

- this is average celestial

- battle is in Asgard, morals off, who wins and why?

#2 Posted by jashro44 (25493 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't the celestials all ready kill odin?

#3 Edited by BigCimmerian (8863 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Didn't the celestials all ready kill odin?

When he fought 8 or 9 of them at the same time, and among them was Arishem, this is average celestial I use

#4 Edited by jashro44 (25493 posts) - - Show Bio

All right. I hear a lot of stuff about the celestials but from the little bit of FF I read they were pretty unimpressive. All though 3 celstials were killing Franklin Richards and Franklin is pretty powerful (powerful enough to turn galactus into his hearled) so I guess the celestials are at least 1/3rd as powerful as franklin? Not sure if thats right and I am not to knowledgeable on either but I think the celestial wins. I don't see odin as 1/3 as powerful as franklin.

#5 Posted by AssertingValor (5467 posts) - - Show Bio

he would likely match one celestial or two under his own power in the armor, with the sword.

#6 Edited by fondofpacman (572 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's Odin with the Odin Sword in the Destroyer Armor after it's been imbued with the power of all the Asgardians. His best feat is chopping off Nezar the Calculator's arm, which is impressive, but it's really to no effect as you can see in the scans. The Destroyer/Odin then attempts to blast another Celestial with a beam of ultimate disintegration, but it is "passively deflected by a casually upraised Celestial hand." Thor does his lightning attack, but it has the effect of "a mild spring rain". Then another Celestial picks up Oden like he's a little kid as Odin strikes him, and the strikes are said to "glance harmlessly off him". Then they just blow up the armor.

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30024ze8.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30025ma9.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30026zm0.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30027jt0.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30028bf0.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor30029ow0.jpg

I don't think anyone here could argue that this version of Oden is much stronger than regular Oden without the destroyer armor or extra Asgardian power, and he's clearly not a match for any Celestial here even with this extra power. But , you were right that Odin does indeed fight multiple Celestials. And if those links don't work, I got them from this blog http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t442432.html, they're halfway down the page on the Feb 22nd, 2007 04:55 AM post.

#7 Posted by AssertingValor (5467 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman: 8 was to many to handle, but odin will have a much fair fight agiainst 2 celestials alone.........

#8 Posted by fondofpacman (572 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordMaverick: The fight will be more fair, but I disagree that he still has a chance. In the 4th scan, after getting hit by only one blast he's weakened and "forced to fight like a wounded beast." It seems like the attacks that actually hit the Celestials they didn't even bother dodging because they were no threat, and when they decided to actually attack him, they disabled and then killed him pretty fast. I don't see what a significantly weaker version of Odin in the Destroyer Armor could possibly do.

#9 Posted by AssertingValor (5467 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman: I don't believe his power level is the problem, the power of the sword and durability of the armor should be able to stand up to 2 celestial for enough time for Odin to chop them up. I do believe however that celestials should be able to replace lost limbs with ease, although i don't know if it has been shown. If they can replace lost limbs, then Odin will most likely loose.

#10 Posted by fondofpacman (572 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordMaverick: So I'm guessing you didn't look at the fourth scan.

#11 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9199 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin might be able to take them on.  
Of course it was already mentioned that he got ganged up on and overwhelmed with eight of them. 
 
 
 
Surprised the gods didn't mass produce those armor, one for every Pantheon. 

#12 Posted by LetsRoll (17 posts) - - Show Bio

odin

#13 Posted by AssertingValor (5467 posts) - - Show Bio

@fondofpacman: i've seen most of them many times, u don't remember everything, once i looked at 1 and 2 links i obviously knew which battle you were talking about. Just next time he should decapitate the celestial, see if that works......

#14 Posted by fondofpacman (572 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordMaverick: Yeah, decapitating them is his best chance, because even impaling them with the odin sword did nothing to Arishem, and it was said that Arishem let the sword fly through him to make it easier to analyze it, so I suspect that if they ever calculated that one of Odin's attacks would actually F* them up bad enough, i think they would do more than just stand there observing him and at least attempt to dodge it.

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin.

#16 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Celestial

#17 Posted by BigCimmerian (8863 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#18 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin. If he was able to give good shots to one Celestial and was able to reflect blasts from two of them, than he is able to fight with one at time. 
To say this in other way - I don't see a reason to belive that with this armor and sword, one single Celestial could take him out. They don't have feats to prove it.

#19 Posted by Bigbadwolfx0 (352 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: @bigcimmerian: @jashro44: I would say Odin no problem as long as he has had the Odin sleep and at full if thor can kill one with just his axe

Odin at his full with the Odin force would destroy and since he has the destroyer armor and Odin sword it's over kill for him.

When did Odin face 9 celestials by the way and was he at full power.

#20 Posted by jagernutt (3185 posts) - - Show Bio

Im familiar with the scans of Odin and Zues and another skyfather along with Thors first encounter with The Celestial 4th host. And I believe that Odin should have a fair chance against just one average Celestial once he understands thier cosmic biology or make up,or however you want to call it.

#21 Posted by lordraiden (7612 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends what you mean when you say average Celestial? Are they that much weaker? I would have considered Ashema an average Celestial and she was going to destroy the pocket universe Franklin created if he hadn't made a decision, and seemed to be well above Odin in power.

#22 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (7084 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by RetconCrisis (4540 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin can probably pull a win on one, 6/10

#24 Posted by Mezame (666 posts) - - Show Bio

i think odin might be able to beat a standard celestial, if he goes all out........ but beating one of the top guys like arishem, scathan and others? no way

#25 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20260 posts) - - Show Bio

Inclined to say odin should be able to take an average celestial with all that. Otherwise he calls thor with dat axe.. and we know how that turns out :p

#26 Edited by jagernutt (3185 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by WillPayton (9823 posts) - - Show Bio

what feats do "average" Celestials have?

#28 Posted by ThorBoy2221 (168 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin with all the powers of Asgard, both present and past, was swatted away like a fly from a celestial. Odin gets stomped again. Any celestial is above Skyfather. Celestials dont have a ton of feats because they don't appear often, but the encounters that have happened show that the celestials are far superior.

#29 Edited by ShootingNova (19054 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin probably loses.

Ah, never mind. With the equipment it would be a close fight, maybe even an even split.

#30 Posted by posteriorprobability (28 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin with all the powers of Asgard, both present and past, was swatted away like a fly from a celestial. Odin gets stomped again. Any celestial is above Skyfather. Celestials dont have a ton of feats because they don't appear often, but the encounters that have happened show that the celestials are far superior.

I question if Third Host of the Celestials who fought Odin, the Skyfathers, and the Eternals' combined forces is really considered an "average Celestial".

#31 Posted by ThorBoy2221 (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@posteriorprobability: It didn't take all of the celestials to take out the Skyfathers. If I remember correctly, it only took one or two. One or two taking them all out says a lot about their dominance over skyfathers.

#32 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (20260 posts) - - Show Bio
#33 Posted by Newblood2333 (251 posts) - - Show Bio

All skyfathers combined couldn't take out a single celestial.

#34 Posted by posteriorprobability (28 posts) - - Show Bio

@thorboy2221: yes, but are those really an "average" Celestial? They could very well be the most powerful Celestial which is probably a few levels higher than the others average ones.

#35 Posted by Newblood2333 (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@posteriorprobability: It was the fourth host, not third. And for all we know, those celestials were just average. Also, the only reason that Odin stood a decent chance against them was because he absorbed all the power possible in Asgard. This made him while he was in the destroyer armor 1000 feet tall. If he didn't have all this extra power, he would only be about 6 feet tall in the armor. He wouldn't stand a chance against the Celestial. The destroyer can get overwhelmed (like with Mastero Hulk), he isn't invincible. Celestial wins.