Hello Cavewoman fans, its been a while since I've been back on the Vine but now, the Thunder has returned and is ready to present the next challenge for the buxom jungle babe. This time Meriem is taking on the group of evil that has given Spider-Man a headache more than a few times through out his career. The Sinister Six.
Meriem will take on each member individually and it will go as follows:
1. The Vulture
2. Kraven The Hunter
3. Doc Ock
4. The Rhino
5. The Green Goblin
6. Venom
Weapons: Meirem will be equipped with an Adamantium Bowi Knife.
Battle Location: New York City
Can Cavewoman defeat each member of the Six? Or will one member be her downfall. Cast your opinions and facts down below. Also lets try not stray too far off topic on this since this is Cavewoman we're talking about here (Threads involving Cavewoman tend to go off topic a lot, lol). The stipulation is, win by death or K.O.
Venom's an amped Spider-man, who alone is like a 25-30 tonner? If I'm not mistaken
25-30 tons is about around Cavewoman's strength level too. Rhino and Venom to me are gonna be her toughest opponents to fight. I think Rhino is the strongest here.
1. Vulture doesn't have a chance. 2. Kraven puts up a great fight but I think she has him in stats. 3. I don't think she can beat Ock. Spidey uses his webs to break free of his arms and she doesn't have anything like that. 8 Arms is too much. 4. Rhino will be tough. If she's prepared to kill here I can see her stabbing him in the face. 5. Goblin's gear will make this super tough for her. I'm not sure on this one. 6. No way she beats Venom. He's too much.
2. Kraven puts up a great fight but I think she has him in stats.
3. I don't think she can beat Ock. Spidey uses his webs to break free of his arms and she doesn't have anything like that. 8 Arms is too much.
4. Rhino will be tough. If she's prepared to kill here I can see her stabbing him in the face.
5. Goblin's gear will make this super tough for her. I'm not sure on this one.
6. No way she beats Venom. He's too much.
1. I agree on that one, Vulture dies.
2. I also agree on this one so Kraven goes down too.
3. I've equipped Meriem with an adamantium bladed knife so if she does get caught by his arms she can break free (granted ock doesn't have her arms pin down). Still a tough fight but I think Meriem can get through this one if she plays her cards right and doesn't get caught by his arms. 50/50 imo.
4. Another tough one. I don't know exactly how strong Rhino is but I'm pretty sure he's the strongest one here. With that said Meriem isn't going to be slugging it out with this guy. As a matter of fact I see Rhino charging at her (like he almost always does against spidey), at that point Cavewoman is gonna dodge and maneuver onto his back and stab him in the head to put him down. Cavewoman has a lot of room to run around in since this is New York. If she doesn't out right stab him up front, she's more than likely going to get him to run into something dangerous enough to slow him down then kill him then. I'd say 40/50 in Meriems favor.
5. I see Cavewoman taking this one. Goblins gonna be trying to bomb her from the air, I see Meriem getting the jump on this guy and slitting his throat. 40/50 Cavewoman's favor.
6. This one is definitely the toughest one outta all of them but Meriem does have a way of at least hurting Venom.
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Meriems primal roar can be quite devastating. In the first pick, out of rage she screams so loud that it shattered every window within a four block area. In the second and third picks she mimics a T-Rex roar (to scare off some flying creatures she heard from a distance) which made everybody within the area jump with fear. Meriem can mimic the voices of other different dinos as well. Cavewoman could use her Primal Roar to hurt the Symbiote long enough for her to get at Eddy and take him down, however the problem here is how long is it gonna take for her to realize that. Venom has two very noticeable weaknesses Heat and Sound. If Meriem can survive long enough to figure out either of Venoms weaknesses then she can beat him, its just a matter of if she can survive long enough to realize it. That's the big question here imo.
@grandsymbiote94: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavewoman look under her powers and abilities and you'll get a good run down of what she can do (although some of that stuff is a bit exaggerated). I used to have a Cavewoman tribute page that I would normally link to anybody who wanted to know "in detail" what she can do. But some problems arouse and I had to take it down (more than once).
@afrothunder: Cool thread, you showed me some Cave woman stuff. I'm gonna say she stops at Goblin, he has some gear that can work his way around her durability. His bag ole tricks includes sonics and a ghost grenade that is stronger than steel and can suffocate her.
These are some feats I was using in a tourney debate.
Green Goblins Bag O Tricks:
As I keep saying Goblin has a Number of tricks: Think Batman's utility belt, only these items are made to be deadly therefore overall much more effective.
Seemingly ridiculous, but highly effective as it can bypass you teams normal durability and you can't block sound other than covering your ears as you scream in pain.
Amazing Spider-Man #180
Just in case you doubted the Frogs. He keeps all of these weird weapons in his pouch: Bag of Tricks. Evidence of that is back in the Handbook up top and has pictured below. I haven't even pulled some of his other armaments yet, but these 3 I am showing off will be more than enough.
Asphyxiation Grenade (aka the Ghost Bomb) is a very whacky weapon, but again very useful. It forms an air-tight seal around its target, and suffocates them to death. Interestingly, Norman refers to it as the 'Goblin Surprise' in the panel below from
Amazing Spider-Man #17
I don't care how durable any of your characters are, they are gonna die without air. Unless I am majorly missing something all of characters need to breath so this tacit would work on anyone of them. If you are thinking of simply breaking out of this think again:
This Bart Hamilton, not Norman Osborn during (Amazing Spider-Man #178). But, the feat still applies as it's the same Ghost Grenade. Bart just stole/borrowed Osborn's weapons. As shown below in the scans the Ghost Grenade is made of a special Polymer Plastic, that's actually stronger than Steel.
Your characters could to get out of something like this, but only Bucky, Cap, and BT would maybe get out. Bucky & Cap could cut through it and BT could use his brute strength, but if you ever have Bucky & Cap toss their shields at us(up to you, you control your characters) they would be vulnerable enable to something like this. Since you have full knowledge I assume your characters won't be dumb enough to toss their shields, but that brings me back to my point I made above about your teams offense being limited. The Captains have to focus on defense because if they toss their shields that will open the team up. Now if you have Gambit or Cyclops try to blast the Ghost Grenade away they could hurt themselves or teammates they are trying to free being that close to a major blast wave. All in all this Ghost weapon is going to be very effective in dealing with your team and you have a limited number of options of dealing with it, and each option will lead to another major consequence for your team.
You'll have to excuse me, I don't remember what exact storyline or comic these scans come from, but they are from one of Goblins earlier appearances. Anywho I doubt any of your team carries a gas mask(maybe Bucky) and can deal with the gas bombs in any other way outside of holding their breath. Even Cap has been knocked out by gas before During Heroes For Hire(via Paladin).
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As shown above Cap eventually needed a gas mask because he got knocked the hell out from Paladin's Gas. Meaning even the 2nd most durable character on your team with the 2nd best healing still needs a gas mask to protect himself from gasing. You've got some amazing peak humans and Superhumans on the team that could hold their breath for a little while, but like Paladin told Cap when he gases him:
So the gas bombs will eventually work, my team can sit back and avoid them as your team gets gased by Goblin flying around dropping bombs, then they can proceed to finish the job if he needs help.
2. I also agree on this one so Kraven goes down too.
3. I've equipped Meriem with an adamantium bladed knife so if she does get caught by his arms she can break free (granted ock doesn't have her arms pin down). Still a tough fight but I think Meriem can get through this one if she plays her cards right and doesn't get caught by his arms. 50/50 imo.
4. Another tough one. I don't know exactly how strong Rhino is but I'm pretty sure he's the strongest one here. With that said Meriem isn't going to be slugging it out with this guy. As a matter of fact I see Rhino charging at her (like he almost always does against spidey), at that point Cavewoman is gonna dodge and maneuver onto his back and stab him in the head to put him down. Cavewoman has a lot of room to run around in since this is New York. If she doesn't out right stab him up front, she's more than likely going to get him to run into something dangerous enough to slow him down then kill him then. I'd say 40/50 in Meriems favor.
5. I see Cavewoman taking this one. Goblins gonna be trying to bomb her from the air, I see Meriem getting the jump on this guy and slitting his throat. 40/50 Cavewoman's favor.
6. This one is definitely the toughest one outta all of them but Meriem does have a way of at least hurting Venom.
Meriems primal roar can be quite devastating. In the first pick, out of rage she screams so loud that it shattered every window within a four block area. In the second and third picks she mimics a T-Rex roar (to scare off some flying creatures she heard from a distance) which made everybody within the area jump with fear. Meriem can mimic the voices of other different dinos as well. Cavewoman could use her Primal Roar to hurt the Symbiote long enough for her to get at Eddy and take him down, however the problem here is how long is it gonna take for her to realize that. Venom has two very noticeable weaknesses Heat and Sound. If Meriem can survive long enough to figure out either of Venoms weaknesses then she can beat him, its just a matter of if she can survive long enough to realize it. That's the big question here imo.
I didn't notice the adamantium knife before I posted. I think she can definitely take out Rhino now. I was unaware of her roar as I haven't read her newer stuff yet. I don't think we can say for sure that it would affect the symbiote so I'm not comfortable saying either of them can beat the other.
I still disagree with Ock. 4 limbs vs 8. She doesn't have the agility needed to avoid them long enough to get in there for a hit.
@lukehero: Wow, I have quite a bit of Spider-Man comics but even I don't remember any of these weird gadgets the Goblin has (may have to look through my stash and see if I can find where he uses some of these grenades). With that being said, out of all of them the only gadget that will be most effective against Cavewoman is the "Sonic Toad". Because of her enhanced hearing that toad would be devastating and would definitely knock her out quick. The other bombs like the Ghost bomb and the Gas bomb, with the Ghost bomb Meriem can just cut her way out of it with her adamantium knife and she's free. The Gas bomb isn't going to be very effective because of Meriems healing factor. Just like Wolverine, Cavewoman is highly resistant to toxins, drugs, and diseases so the gas isn't going to work so well on her.
However, I still say Cavewoman beats him because Goblin isn't likely gonna think to use any of those goofy (but effective) bombs against Meriem right off the bat. In each of those pics GG used specific bombs to take out specific heroes. How many times has he been beatin by Spider-Man before he actually decided to come up with the tricky bombs? 1 to many imo. Plus you also have to take in account which of the bombs is he gonna use on her first. Like I said earlier the only bomb that'll put her down quick is the "sonic toad" and the likely hood of him busting that out on her before she kills him is slim. Standard Goblin is just gonna try and blow her up with pumpkin bombs before he actually decides to bust out his trump cards. In the end I just don't see him picking the right bomb on her before she gets the drop on him. Meriem has fought and beat somebody somewhat similar before who liked to throw grenades a lot and the Goblin ain't to much different.
@pokeysteve: Meriem doesn't necessarily have to get up close to Ock to kill him. She could just pick up something sharp and throw it at his head and take him down that way. Since this is New York, there are a lot things Cavewoman can used to keep her distance from Ocks arms.
@afrothunder: His pumpkin bombs are pretty powerful. I'll post scans later. Also he can ride his glider at full speed for an hour before he has to come down. Wolverine has been affected by certain type of gases like fear gas(I'll post scans later).
@lukehero:Sorry it took sooo long to come back to this thread (had problems with my computer but I got it fixed now) but I'm back and ready to continue the battle.
@afrothunder: His pumpkin bombs are pretty powerful. I'll post scans later. Also he can ride his glider at full speed for an hour before he has to come down. Wolverine has been affected by certain type of gases like fear gas(I'll post scans later).
Sorry it took sooo long to come back to this thread (had problems with my computer but I got it fixed now) but I'm back and ready to continue the battle. Meriem has taken explosions directly and survived heck she's taken a grenade to the face and was still conscious (i'll post scans of it if you need me too). He may can ride his glider for an hour but its WHEN he comes down that's going to be his end, she will catch him one way or the other and when she does she's not going to hesitate to stab him to death. GG might have some gases that will affect her a little better but its like I said before hes just not going to pull out his trump cards on her right off the bat he's just gonna try and blow her up with bombs. The way I see this fight going down is "he's flying, he sees her and starts throwing Pumpkin Bombs at her and supposedly blows her up, he comes down to confirm she's dead and then outta nowhere she comes up behind him and slits his throat" Green Goblin dead.
@heatblaze123: She's a buxom half naked jungle woman what did you expect. This kind of stuff happens in almost EVERY Cavewoman battle thread I've done. Somebody's gonna always say "ends in sex" whenever they see her in a thread but I guess it's part of her charm (laughs). But getting back on topic, what's your opinion on the battle?
Her character fights dinos of different types from T-Rexs to Megalodons and frequently has wardrobe malfunctions because of it (but then again look what she fights in). She's a great character but she's also cheesecake which is why some people don't take her that seriously...well until I show them otherwise that is.
@afrothunder: Why would he have to come down to confirm a kill? Also he has electrical shocker in his gloves(thousands of volts). His pumpkin bombs have knocked down Wonder Man.
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Also spamming gadgets isn't out of character. His a stone cold killer.
@afrothunder: Spidey was never able to take him down from a distance so I doubt she'll be able to.
Spidey has incapacitated him from a distance lots of times with his webs, the only difference with Cavewoman is that she uses more lethal projectiles like rocks, sticks, spears, her knife etc, and she's pretty darn accurate with them as well.
@afrothunder: Why would he have to come down to confirm a kill? Also he has electrical shocker in his gloves(thousands of volts). His pumpkin bombs have knocked down Wonder Man.
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Also spamming gadgets isn't out of character. His a stone cold killer.
Meriem has withstood electrical attacks and explosions before (look from left to right on the pics).
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I will give you this though, a direct blast from a few of his pumpkin bombs would knock her out but you'd need a "direct" blast to do it. Cavewoman moves very quickly, almost as quickly as Spiderman as a matter of fact. I still say she beats him but it definitely won't be easy.
@afrothunder: Webs are sticky and have holding power. They can immobilize Ock even if it's only for a second. Meriem can't and none of her weapons will help her.
@pokeysteve: The point was that he can be tagged from a distance. Yes I know Spiderman has webbed him plenty of times before, heck his even shot him in the face and webbed his foot, or just straight up snagged and swung him into something hard enough to knock him out. Your right Meriem doesn't have the luxury of Peters webbing but she doesn't need them to take out Ock. Plus Cavewoman can just as easily sneak up on him and take him down that way sorta like she did this Frankenstein looking monster here
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Point is, Cavewoman can pretty much attack him from anywhere and he'll never see her coming. Spiderman usually just attacks him head on and Ock can see him coming (though he still gets beat most of the time lol). There's only two characters on the list that this tactic probably wouldn't work on but Doc Ock is one of the ones that it definitely would work on.
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