CAV: Thanos (Frozen) vs Despero (Darkseid1006)

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#1  Edited By frozen  Moderator

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Rules

  • Earth
  • No prep
  • Morals off
  • Standard elimination

May the best man win.

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Nice, tag me.

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#4  Edited By FukYouRenchamp

@frozen: Weren't you just debating aganist Thanos in a CaV? :P

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#5 frozen  Moderator

@frozen: Weren't you just debating aganist Thanos in a CaV? :P

Yes, but I've read all his appearances so it won't hurt to debate for him.

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#7  Edited By FukYouRenchamp

@frozen said:

@pr0metheus said:

@frozen: Weren't you just debating aganist Thanos in a CaV? :P

Yes, but I've read all his appearances so it won't hurt to debate for him.

You gotta pick a side!

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Found another CAV to follow. This should be interesting given that Frozen has just finished up arguing against Thanos in another CAV and now he's arguing for the Mad Titan. Quite ironic ;)

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@lvenger: Agreed

Tag me for voting please

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@frozen: considering this is your firm view

" The Spectre's mind was capable of being entered via Martian's telepathy. Despero on the other hand would put Pre-52 Martian in a coma, he would have an easier time with Thanos."

I am interested in how you will carry this debate

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@thanosii said:

@frozen: considering this is your firm view

" The Spectre's mind was capable of being entered via Martian's telepathy. Despero on the other hand would put Pre-52 Martian in a coma, he would have an easier time with Thanos."

I am interested in how you will carry this debate

I'm not the one to hold double standards too often given I could drag apart literally any debate via this tactic, but I've changed my mind regarding this matchup. Given I originally argued Wonder Woman against Captain Marvel in a CAV but now I do not really hold my old view anymore.

So yes, stay interested and watch this pan out.

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@frozen: changed your mind? Now I am going to be following this closely.

Tell does this mean you have changed your mind on J'onn being able to TP Thanos

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Tag me for voting

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Sandbagging Thanos? I'm curious how this will turn out.

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#15  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@kingant27: Okay.

@thanosii said:

@frozen: changed your mind? Now I am going to be following this closely.

Tell does this mean you have changed your mind on J'onn being able to TP Thanos

I'll talk to you about that in PM if you want.

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Thanos

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Thanos

its a CaV mate... and though i tend to agree... its important to keep an open mind also i am PM'ing you about a personal match...

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@lvenger said:

Found another CAV to follow. This should be interesting given that Frozen has just finished up arguing against Thanos in another CAV and now he's arguing for the Mad Titan. Quite ironic ;)

My thoughts exactly.

Haven't got a chance to say this, but I like your Avatar too. Didn't DM have a similiar one?

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@New_World_Order said:

Thanos

its a CaV mate... and though i tend to agree... its important to keep an open mind also i am PM'ing you about a personal match...

Wasn't looking, my bad, and alright.

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@laflux said:
@lvenger said:

Found another CAV to follow. This should be interesting given that Frozen has just finished up arguing against Thanos in another CAV and now he's arguing for the Mad Titan. Quite ironic ;)

My thoughts exactly.

Haven't got a chance to say this, but I like your Avatar too. Didn't DM have a similiar one?

Where do you think I got the Avatar from my friend? ;) DM was always kind enough to allow me to borrow his AVs anyway because that's how awesome he is.

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tag me please

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Tag me, thanks.

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What is going on here?

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So will this begin?

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#28  Edited By frozen  Moderator

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So will this begin?

It should be...I'll tag him again

@darkseid1006 you going to open?

If he doesn't start the opener, I will.

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#29  Edited By darkseid1006

@frozen: Sorry about the long wait i'll kick this of.....

Intro

Now i know that you know Despero but i'll begin with some quick info...

Despero is a Alien who ever since his arrival on Earth has been a foe of the JLA. He has a particular hatred for J'onn J'onzz due to the amount of times he has opposed him.
Despero is a Alien who ever since his arrival on Earth has been a foe of the JLA. He has a particular hatred for J'onn J'onzz due to the amount of times he has opposed him.

Now for his powers...

  • Super Strength: Easily above Superman or Martian Manhunter
  • Super Speed: Enough to match MM in high speed combat
  • Super Durability: Tanked blow after blow from planet and moon busters
  • Super Endurance: Has never shown any signs of slack
  • Telepathic Powers: Greater than that of Martian Manhunter can be used in a number of ways; TK, conventional TP attacks, mind control, psionic energy blasts, and illusions.

The Battle!

So now onto the battle.....
Heres how Despero can win...

The method is pretty simple. A telepathic assault on Thanos will be able to take him down.
Now yes i know Thanos has some TP resistance showings but does he have any on this level?

9 White Martian's, near planetary level telepaths that have consumed brain matter to amp their abilities 1,000,000 x there normal level and where each able to control entire galaxies full of life with there TP, tried to TP Martian Manhunter and he resisted.

Because thats the kind of telepathy Despero is packing.

Remember MM's TP resistance feats? Well Despero dropped him and made him drawl with a single TP shot.

So until you prove that Thanos can resist galaxy level+ telepaths then Despero should easily 1 shot him.

But lets say that Thanos does resist the initial attack, he would certainly not be unharmed by it. So lets see how it would go if the battle went to a physical battle.....

Despero beats MM in a physical battle, apart from 1 instance where he used his TP to weaken Manhunter, and matches him in high speed combat throughout space then proceeds to crush his skull with 1 hand.

So now lets put that feat into perspective...

MM tanks blows from Superman, Big Barda, Wonder Woman, and Orion all one after another without even being phased and in the very next panel overpowered all off them.

Now for some others.

Martian Manhunter swats Superman away effortlessly, gets distracted by Batman, then tanks a sucker punch from Supes, defeated Wonder Woman, and matched Supes HV with his Martian Vision.

Couple more.

MMH crushed 4 White Martians in a literal flash
MMH crushed 4 White Martians in a literal flash
Heres what the WM could do... 1 White Martina was solo'ing Kyle Rayner, Orion, Big Barda and a couple of others until its weakness to fire was exploited.
1 White Martian takes out Superman and Kyle Rayner
1 White Martian takes out Superman and Kyle Rayner


And lastly Despero also tanked MM's Martian Vision. Heres what MV can do.....

Supes heat vision is off the charts. We can measure the temp of the suns core but can't measure this.
Supes heat vision is off the charts. We can measure the temp of the suns core but can't measure this.


And

A WM, inferior to MM in every way, uses Martian Vision to 1 shot Wonder Woman.
A WM, inferior to MM in every way, uses Martian Vision to 1 shot Wonder Woman.

Then heres some more...

Despero owns Martian Manhunter in 1 punch.

Then theres this one...

Despero vs a lot of heroes. He tanks hits from Captain Marvel, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Powergirl then crushes WW face with 1 hand, one shots Captain Marvel and Superman, gets the Rock of Eternity dropped on top of him (the rock is said to have infinite weight is the focal point of magic in DC and is made of a part of both heaven and hell), and only loses when he is faced with Johnny Sorrow's (think thats his name) death stare.

For now that should do...
Your move

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#34 frozen  Moderator

@ancient_god: Thanks for the bump.

Completely forgot about this.

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@darkseid1006: please g et this started again! This looks like it was going to be a very good debate and your feed says you were active 2 days ago

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@thenewbluebeetle007: I know I plan to have all my CaV's n stuff back in about 2 months. (Iv had things to deal with so yeah)

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#42  Edited By ancient_god

bump because i wish see the knowledge of @frozen about Thanos

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@frozen: Your turn if your still up for this...

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@frozen: Your turn if your still up for this...

Just wanted to ask, Frozen if you cant respond and if Darkseid1006 is okay waiting for 2 weeks, I could continue this from here.

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@darkseid1006 said:

@frozen: Your turn if your still up for this...

Just wanted to ask, Frozen if you cant respond and if Darkseid1006 is okay waiting for 2 weeks, I could continue this from here.

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@killemall: I'd be up for that if Frozen can't continue...

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I'm gonna bump this... Cuz I was reading through old CaVs (to gain some debating knowledge) and stumbled accross this... If there's a chance tht this can get Rolling again that would be awesome!

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