@sirfizzwhizz:
Im not sure why T-800 cannot simply shoot him should he try that. Its not that hard to counter, and kids in multiplayer games react to that maneuver just fine :)
The point isn't to say that maneuver would wreck the terminator. Actually, I don't doubt the terminator would just shoot him out of the air with that maneuver, it's just to show how nimble they are.
You'd actually be surprised at some people literally dodging bullets online lol. It's like playing quake.
Seems vague to me. How can it track a threat he knows nothing about? Sounds like game play magic more than a actual thing.
I well, definitely believe it. I doubt it will mark the terminator specifically. It's more, going to mark him and anything close to him that happens to be in it's radius. And they do visibly display using this tech and similiar tech. Particularly where they dedicate an entire scene to just wallhacking people.
This one is much more advanced and reads heart rates, though it requires more setup and for you to manually tag them. The threat grenade would pretty much be much more indiscriminate, marking the terminator and other people near by. I really don't see how the terminator would be immune to it. It'd be something akin to a drone, which like I said, it does tag.
Even going as far to not just highlight people but their exos as well. Very noticeable and useful when you have a guy clad in 6 and 1/2 ft tall armor trying to mow you down with an anti-craft minigun on his arm,all of which it highlights. It highlights people, it highlights their weapons. Advanced Warfare'sis relatively advanced and more "different" from others.
Not true. As showed above the T-800 tank a anti tank rocket to the back, and T-800s tank weapons with more punch than a 50 Cal anyway in the form of the Plasma Guns that make .50 Cals obsolete as weapons. The Plasma Guns pierce tank armor fine, and hit with enough kinetic force to shatter solid concrete columns, something a .50 Cal would actually not be able to do on the first shot.
From my understanding, terminator actually has many different kinds of plasma weapons. The larger ones are superior to .50 cals, which more just tear through concrete like a knife rather than shatter it like a hammer.
And another thing is that is not an anti-tank rocket. It is an HE or HE Fragmenting with a wide explosive radius. A challenger II tank got shot with 70 RPGs without any sign of significant damage. It is even fully operational after the incident. However, something like a HEAT round is completely different. That will have a minuscule radius, but focus the blast into a bolt of copper. The explosion liquifies the copper and propels it as a stream at speeds of mach 25 when the RPG goes off. This requires a direct impact in order to work on a tank.
That? That is fragmenting/HE. Something more for squishy targets. Nobody wants to acknowledge the existance of the HEAT round (unless you are like HALO and do relative amounts of research on military weaponry) because it doesn't give those dramatic michael bay style explosions that people like to see.
When in fact when it comes to dealing damage to a singular target, it scatters the energy everywhere. While a fraction of the explosion actually hits while the rest is like "Derp Imma go this way."
Not that it isn't impressive because it is. But it's just "above a tank" impressive.
Four scans of the same thing. T-800s able to look at just about anything, and figure out from a quick scan what it is capable of, what it is, or used for. One quick scan of your guy will reveal all is needed and what counters to use against him. Im not sure why T-800, a competent one anyway, will allow itself in a position to be attacked by said weapon.
It's pretty smart, and calculating. Makes it difficult if not impossible for any normal human to fight it. But our soldier is smart and has an arsenal of tools of his own to give information and high amounts of firepower.
Well, one Plasma Shot is all its going to take. with Grenade Launcher firing at him too, he will not last long.
Except, these aren't very good long range weapons. Unlike the MORS or something like the sniper they have that fires 20mm cannon rounds. (Though I prefer the MORS for this matchup.)
This was a bad showing. First off, i am unsure where your getting a small car like that weighing close to 2.5 tons. If anything its barely 1 ton. Second this fight showed one of your characters in the exo suit getting beat up and overpowered by a normal human. Whats that about?!
That vehicle is more than a ton. The extra ".5" however exagerratting. But the thing is a large offroad vehicle that could easily be 3500-4000 lbs.
This is one of those moments that irks, especially when I can just pull strength feats left and right from these videos.
Not going to make anyone scroll back up to go see it.
Starts at 17:35 where he rips off a steel gate with just his hands, using the supposedly weaker specialist exo.
21:18 The two both shove a rather large van forward against the wheels (as in, to the side. Using sheer strength with the wheels resisting.Not pushing a van and letting the wheels do the work.) After that, he just sparta kicks the thing and shoves it aside.
A few seconds earlier than that before being rammed, he ripped a car door off.
The game even goes out of it's way to show that a normal person cannot stand up to someone in an assault exo. (Which he wasn't using for that mission.)
"Heh. He's got the Assault Exo. Poor Bastards don't stand a chance."
This version would of course, logically be nerfed because they're just sparring.
When they aren't well....
So, the fact that he was capable of fighting some guy who throughout the entirity of the story is casually one shotting humans with a single casual hit is amazing. Not one shot KO, I mean one punch death.
Exo users are however lightweight, so I suppose he could feasibly throw her around. Exos are light enough to jump 20 feet air and even swim, but that overpowering part was baffling.
I would say in summary either Charles atlas superpowers to the max, or simple PIS.
Now, I'm not saying this Exo soldier would be wanting to go hand to hand with a comicbook composite terminator, but I'm just trying to display essentially that scene was pretty stupid in my opinion.
We don't really need to go over how strong the terminator is because, well, we all already know. I sincerely doubt in most scenarios that this would come down to close combat.
Im not convince he can cloak from its sensors. With that in mind, T-800 is able to keep tabs, and out maneuver him.
It cloaks from thermals just fine. X-Rays I'm honestly not too sure about since to my knowledge they aren't encountered. However, CoD has see through wall stuff pretty prominently. Yet, they still defeat it.
Go to scene right after, and the character mentions "Sync your visor to my signature." Meaning it would only allow a certain frequency of EM radiation through to detect it.
Looking back now, I think the terminator can spot him, but it's generally difficult. I'll retract my statement, it'll make it harder to find him, but not impossible. That and the cloak has limited charge.
Still, it's an advantage none the less.
Considering the map, its not useful using your MORS anyway. Too many obstacles. In a open field you have a point, here it is unwieldy, and T-800 will simply stay out of sight with his superior tracking abilities, make his way around, and make this more of a close range fire fight where he will win.
Except, if the soldier can track him, he will just keep wallhacking the terminator to death. Every time it would come near, he would just use his superior maneuverability to retreat to somewhere more to his advantage. And even if the cloak doesn't work, as long as he stays maneuvrable and stays away, seeing the terminator is really all he needs to win in the end. Very few objects in a city could feasibly provide cover against a .50 cal. A Plasma rifle and a MORS are more or less is gonna tear through anything. Difference is, the Grenade launcher isn't doing much to someone on a rooftop who is constantly above you and tanks larger scale explosions consistently.
And well, even then, the genade launcher becomes even less useful if they equip a trophy system, and use it to deflect grenades tossed at them.
The plasma weapon is the terminator's greatest threat, capable of one shooting the exosoldier most likely if it hits close up. However, if he can just keep wall hacking and outmaneuvring him, it's power becomes rather moot.
Now....
Time for votes. Been a good debate.
Up to everyone else who they decide wins.
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