CAV: Tarzan (jwalser3) vs Jonah Hex (tparks) - VOTING!

Jonah Hex can throw his Tomahawk faster then his opponent can pick up his gun and fire. He is also dead accurate with it. When Tarzan tries to charge Jonah, he could very well end up with a Tomahawk to the face. Chances are, Jonah will be using his guns, but this is a pretty good option for Hex.

These are what Hex will most likely use to win this fight. Tarzan may be a bullet timer, but even bullet timer's get shot from top marksmen in comics, and Jonah Hex is among the elite when it comes to being a marksman. In all of the issues I've read of him, I've never seen him miss a shot. I admit that I haven't read every issue Hex is been in, but I've read a lot, and he's hit every target he's ever aimed for.

ex shoots down a bounty without even looking at his target.

He shoots the hat off of his opponent from a long distance as a warning shot. His shot is accurate enough to hit the hat but not kill his target.

Hex's pin-point accuracy allow him to shoot the ear off of his opponent without killing him.

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Hex guns down six men. All six men already had their gun's drawn, but Hex was fast enough and accurate enough to kill them all.

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This shows off Hex's ability at shooting long range with hi rifle. He takes out an entire Apache prison camp's guards.

A bear attacks Hex. Hex shoots with both of his guns at the same time. Each shot hits a separate eye of the bear. This is what Tarzan has to look forward to if he tries to close the distance on Hex.

That's enough for now with guns. I'll add some more feats as this goes on.

Jonah Hex is very hard to kill. Even if Tarzan can do the impossible and close the distance on Hex, he will have more of a fight that he thinks waiting for him. Jonah Hex may look unassuming as a close quarters fighter, but he has proven he can take on just about anyone because of his strength, speed, insanely high pain tolerance, and overall toughness.

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Scan 1: Hex is fast enough to put down a leaping Apache with a palm thrust. He is then shot in the shoulder, and completely unharmed. He shows no signs of pain or slowing down.

Scan 2: Immediately after being shot, Hex takes out an attacker with a bucket before he can shoot him and tackles a large post that is lit on fire to save the girl who is burning alive. This shows his speed, strength, and pain tolerance are all very high.

Scan 3: Jonah Hex charges another Apache and closes the distance before he can fire an arrow. His incredible strength allows him to toss him a long ways like he weighed next to nothing.

Scan 4: Hex is quick enough to knock a gun to the side before delivering a head shot of his own. He then carries the body of his victim as a shield to absorb bullets from 2 other attackers. He throws the body a long ways into the attackers and then guns them both down.

Scan 5: Hex back hands the nun (she was an evil murdering nun with a bounty on her head, lol) that started this riot before she can pull the trigger, and then tosses her out the window a very long distance.

All of these scans show how strong and fast Hex are. What makes them even more impressive, is that he does all of this with a bullet wound in his shoulder.

I have several other scans of Hex's toughness, speed, and strength, but I'll save them for later in this match-up.

Another thing people might be confused about is the gun issue. I guess people don't know that Tarzan can easily dodge bullets.

Tarzan does dodge bullets, but has he ever dodged bullets from one of the best marksman in comics? Jonah Hex doesn't miss, and I don't see him starting now.

Sword fighters are nothing new to Tarzan as well. He should be able to react to Hex.

And even if Hex gets the best of Tarzan, he can snap his sword rather easily.

Same thing as the bullet dodging feat, can Tarzan account for someone with this kind of speed with a sword?

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Hex deflects three bullets from three guns that were shot simultaneously with his sabre. He then cuts down two of the shooters with one swing from his sword. The last attacker fires again, and Hex deflects the bullet with his sabre again before stabbing him in the torso. I don't think Tarzan will be wanting to try to grab Hex's sword when he can handle it with this amazing level of speed. Tarzan will just end up on the losing side of that strategy.

I'm sure Hex has dodged arrows before, but when Tarzan gets in the trees/bushes/shrubs he will be hard to track.

Hex should have no problem tracking Tarzan. He is the best bounty hunter in the world, tracking down his targets is what he is very good at. Hex is also not a stranger to using stealth to take out his enemies.

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Hex uses the dark of night to take out all of his targets. They never see where he comes from and he kills them all one by one.

It's a good idea. But also a bad idea. If Tarzan is charging Hex he should be able to easily dodge the tomahawk.

It's true that the guy Hex threw the Tomahawk at wasn't moving with the athleticism Tarzan displays, but Jonah Hex never misses with any kind of accuracy feat. I have to admit, I have no scans to prove that he's ever done this before with the near superhuman abilities Tarzan has, so this is probably going to have to be debated on pure speculation on both of our parts, unless you have feats to counter this. Tarzan's never dodged anything from someone like Hex, and Hex has never thrown a tomahawk at someone like Tarzan.

No this subject might get a little heated....

Now in Hex's time, are there even bullet timers?

Jonah Hex is a bullet timer as seen with him deflecting bullets with his sabre. No one he has ever shot before is a bullet timer, or if they were, Hex was a good enough marksman to hit them because they are all dead.

Tarzan has no problem closing the gap between him and multiple gunmen. While Hex is a good shot there are somethings you should know.

1. When a bullet is fired, it's just a bullet. It doesn't matter if some one with great accuracy fires it. It's still traveling at the same speed. Therefore Tarzan can still dodge it.
2. Hex is firing old western fire arms in this battle. Civil War era stuff. Tarzan has already shown reaction times to handle such guns. Hell, the MP-40 scan should show that he could handle faster guns. Seeing how an MP-40 fires at 1,312 ft/s and a civil war revolver only fires at 304.8 m/s. I can't really tell seeing how we don't know what gun Hex is using.
3. To try and back "2" up I recalled and episode of Justice League Unlimited. In "The Once and Future Thing, Part 1" Wonder Woman deflects some old western revolver shots. Stating "Those are some of the biggest, slowest bullets I've ever seen."(@6:00-6:27) Now I'm not saying Tarzan can deflect or see bullets. I'm getting at that Tarzan faces people with guns with a higher muzzle velocity. Which gives him faster reaction times. Sure, Hex deflecting those shots is very impressive. But compared to Tarzan it's not. He's reflexes will be naturally faster, since he faces faster guns.

1. This may be true in real life, but in the comic world, the top marksman are able to pull off feats with their fire-arms that should be impossible and it is attributed to their skill with their weapons. Take Punisher's feats for example. He's tagged Spiderman who is one of the best Bullet Timers in comics. He even shoots the web out of his shooters as soon as it leaves his hands. Punisher has also shot a speedster. Bullet Timers are not impossible to shoot, the best marksman are capable of doing this and Jonah Hex is in the elite in the comic world.

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2. He's carrying his guns from the Civil War, so I'd assume he's carrying a Colt .45 Single Action Army Revolver. That's a pretty safe assumption as this was the standard gun for this time-frame and even until today to some extent. The reason it's still used today is the classic design for this gun was revolutionary. It could be fired fast, accurate, and had a very impressive velocity. It's true that it fires at around 304.8m/s like you said, but that converts to 1,000ft/s which is only 312ft/s slower then the MP-40 you mentioned. There is a very small difference in bullet velocity between the MP-40 and a civil war Colt .45 revolver. This difference means next to nothing when you put the gun in the hands of someone like Jonah Hex. Colt .45 SAAR

His rifle is most likely a Henry repeating rifle which was the standard lever action repeating rifle for the Civil War. It shoots .44 caliber shells at 1600 ft/s with medium loads which is 288ft/s faster then the MP-40. Henry Rifle

The thing with firearms is that bullet velocity is determined almost completely by the load in the shell, and the length of the barrel. This is why his guns are not firing any slower then modern guns.

3. See above for the FPS explanation. There is not going to be any difference noticed by Tarzan as far as bullet velocity. The only real difference is that Jonah Hex is firing the guns, and he doesn't miss his targets.

There is absolutly no doubt in my mind that Hex is a hard mofo to kill and is a bad ass. While it's all impressive, Tarzan's daily routine is far greater.

Both Hex and Tarzan are going to require more damage then a normal human can take to put down, but I wouldn't say Tarzan's is any more impressive.

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In these scans, Jonah Hex is hung for a very long period of time. He is hung and left for dead by a traveling carnival. The carnival hangs him, packs up their gear, and leaves town. Some time later, Bat-Lash shows up and saves Hex. There is no length of time stated on panel, but it can only be assumed that this time span is much larger then any human should possible be able to survive.

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Hex is betrayed by a member of his tribe. He is stabbed in the leg and left behind to be murdered by a rival Apache tribe. An entire tribe attacks Hex, immediately after he takes a deep knife wound in his leg. Hex manages to kill every attacker of the rival tribe even with his wound.

Taking down an ape with only his knife

This takes me back. I loved this book when I was a kid. I don't see this happening to Hex, because Hex should be able to keep Tarzan from closing the distance. This is such a cool feat though, beating a full grown gorilla with a full nelson. I think he does it to a tiger or some kind of big cat earlier in the book too.

Holds down crocodiles, breaking ones neck

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Those are pretty impressive. I don't doubt that Tarzan has Jonah Hex beat in strength. Jonah is going to use his weapons and skill to overcome Tarzan's physical superiority. While we're on crocodile's though, here's a cool feat from Hex where he uses Alligators to kill a family of inbreds that have been killing anyone who comes across their property. It shows his strength as he is able to hold open a an alligator's jaws from clamping down on him.

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Hex should have no problem tracking Tarzan. He is the best bounty hunter in the world, tracking down his targets is what he is very good at. Hex is also not a stranger to using stealth to take out his enemies.

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Hex uses the dark of night to take out all of his targets. They never see where he comes from and he kills them all one by one.

It's debatable. Tarzan sneaks up on lions, apes, hunters, trackers, etc. All the time. IIRC he was able to take out a camp of hunters one by one as well.

Of course it's debatable, that's what we're here for! It sounds like we are putting an expert tracker against an expert in not being tracked. The fight does start in plain sight, so this shouldn't become too much of an issue for either character, but this would be interesting. A bounty scenario where Jonah Hex has to track down Tarzan as a bounty could be a cool battle scenario for the public threads in the battle section. Hmm, maybe I'll make that after this is finished....

I'm going to close this post by adding a few more shooting feats for Hex, since I think this is most likely going to come down to whether of not Hex can shoot Tarzan before Tarzan closes the distance.

Jonah Hex is walking away from a captain he left to die. The captain he left to die is able to wrestle a rifle away from someone standing next to him and aim at Jonah Hex's back. Hex is so fast with a gun that he is able to turn draw and shoot all before the capatain can simply pull the trigger.

Hex is gunning down raiders that are trying to steel Thomas Edison's inventions. One of them throws dynamite at Hex, but Hex shoots the stick of dynamite in mid-air causing an explosion.

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These scans show Hex gunning down a few hired guns while diving, and burning down a whore house. The real impressive feat is in the fourth scan though. Hex is able to shoot the achilles tendon from the girl he is tracking down making her fall from the roof. He shot her there so he could cripple her, as he did not want to kill her yet. This is a very small target.

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My last feat for this post will show that Hex is very capable of defending himself if Tarzan closes the distance. Obviously, Hex is going to want to shoot down Tarzan before he does get in close, but the fight will not be completely over if it does come down to this. Hex dodges a tomahawk throw and proceeds to kill the opposing Apache chief in a very impressive knife fight.