@tparks
When I say the reason Splinter and Shredder can't win is because their ninjas, what I mean is that, in being trained as ninjas, they lack certain skills that would be required to actually go up against super soldiers. Obviously Snake and Big Boss have a big advantage in more modern weapons and techniques, firearms and other advanced gear, not to mention elite tactical training for setting traps and ambushes. Basically they have a plethora of ways to keep this fight at a range, and if Splinter and Shredder are incapable of bringing things up close, they are effectively not a thread. Keep in mind, Big Boss has been trained by every major military organization in the United States and is considered a master with virtually every form of modern military weaponry in existence. He was the personal disciple of The Boss for 10 years, who is heralded as "The Mother of Special Forces", and not only has John been able to recognize the various shooting techniques used by master marksman like EVA and Revolver Ocelot, but he's been able to improve upon them.
Revolver Ocelot ranked "Major" in GRU as a teenager, and was playing triple agent for every side of the Cold War by his 18th birthday. Needless to say he's a pretty smart guy, who of course specializes in sharpshooting, but Naked Snake in his youth was able to analyze his technique, find a flaw, and capitalize on it to decimate the entire Ocelot Unit alone.
In terms of raw accuracy, Naked Snake's accuracy is completely perfect. Whatever he aims at, he always hits, and he's even capable of some low-level ricochet shots (though not to Revolver Ocelot's caliber). The abundance of "soldier genes" in his body have enhanced his senses to blatantly superhuman levels, allowing him to do things like hear a conversation happening at a distance humans can barely even see, detect the Ocelot Unit approaching while asleep from behind a brick wall, and even fight invisible foes. His enhanced senses (mostly eyesight, obviously) is what allows him to make unbelievable distance shots.
The world record for sniper rifle shooting is a little over 2,000 meters, but Snake made this shot from nearly 4,000, with one of the most inaccurate weapons imaginable.
Then there is the Chrysalis, an advanced Artificial Intelligence designed to dodge bullets. Snake destroyed this whilst dodging chainguns and rail cannon blasts, as the mech was flying thousands of feet overhead, weaving around erratically in the thick fog. Oh and it was also bulletproof, meaning the only area Snake could actually damage was the little AI Pod dangling from it's head.
Meanwhile Solid Snake was bred since birth to become the world's most dangerous weapon. He has surpassed his father in all fields, and is a skilled enough marksman to tag speedsters and bullet timers, while dodging projectiles himself.
It's true that Olga was the least enhanced Cyborg Ninja in the series - in fact, she had no enhancements at all, but was still an effortless bullet timer and managed to defend Raiden from a hailstorm of machine gun fire by deflecting every shot with her sword. However Solid Snake was skilled enough to shoot her regardless with a mere tranquilizer gun while literally outracing bullets.
Even more impressively was Vamp, a real hypersonic speedster who could run across water, vanish from plain sight, and enjoyed blitzing bullet timers, like Raiden (when Jack was human). I've already shown the clip of Vamp casually deflecting full automatic machine gun fire with his knife, so shooting him is clearly not an easy task. Only Old Snake has been capable of it (Vamp has a healing factor though so it didn't work, which is the reason Snake ended up going h2h with him)
I don't think Splinter and Shredder have many, if any at all, bullet timing feats. I know Splinter is supposed to be enhanced, but Snake has shot a bunch of enhanced characters, Olga and Vamp being on a whole different level of speed compared to Splinter. As far as I can see, the ninja have no counter to this.
Back to CQC though. Like I mentioned, Naked Snake was trained by The Boss, Mother of Special Forces and hero of WWII (she's basically Captain America), and surpassed her in the end. Now I know Splinter has mastered a plethora of different martial arts forms, but in the words of Bruce Lee, "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." It's an advantage to Splinter, no argument about that, but when it comes to close quarters combat, Big Boss is literally the INVENTOR of the style, and as anyone can tell you, creating your own distinct style of martial arts shows a lot more advancement than just learning a few.
A young Big Boss explains the idea behind CQC - quick transition from h2h strikes to gunplay. He shows this in action by defeating the Ocelot Unit, as I posted above. So one prime advantage that the Snakes have against any foe, is that their CQC is not limited to just punching and kicking; they can still shoot you as well, and from CQC range it'll be even harder to dodge.
Keep in mind, EVERY feat I have shown for Solid Snake thus far was WITHOUT the use of CQC, rather he was using the much inferior CQB. Here he explains why, and talks about how advanced the style is compared to other techniques.
Then he displays said techniques in action.
If I can make a direct comparison between Solid Snake and Splinter, whereas the rat took on a gauntlet of Foot Ninja and then fought Shredder, Snake took on a gauntlet of FROG Soldiers, then took on the same gauntlet again reanimated from the dead by Screaming Mantis, then killed Mantis, then Snake tanked the dreaded microwave hallway, and still had enough strength to defend the Mk. III from a horde of Gekko, and FINALLY Snake fought Ocelot. Only difference is - Snake won, whereas Splinter succumbed to exhaustion and lost to Shredder. (Ocelot has insane reflexes and can make 40 foot vertical leaps in his old age, not to mention he stomped Raiden and learned CQC just by watching Big Boss do it, so he is definitely comparable to Shredder)
All that said about Snake, Big Boss is still superior in raw CQC technique.
To be perfectly honest, besides their showings against the turtles and entire hordes of ninja at once, those feats you posted for Shredder and Splinter just... aren't that impressive. A handful of canon fodder goons and samurai isn't anything Snake or Big Boss wouldn't stomp too. So hypothetically, let's just say that in H2H technique, the four of them are roughly even with BB and Shreds being top dogs. My Snakes would still win because the style they use is not strictly h2h, but rather, they can mix in gunplay at the same time.
I also think we are a lot faster than your guys and both of them can at least match Splinter in striking power, but this post is long enough. And NO Splinter is not oneshotting them!
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