Composite Commander Shepard
- Canon Darth Vader.
- Standard Gear.
- Death or KO.
- In character.
- Start 1000 feet apart here.
CaV PCB (Shepard) vs SFW (Vader)
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Darth Vader, formerly Anakin Skywalker, is one of the most powerful Sith Lords in the history of the galaxy. He is consider the chosen one to bring balance to the force, which he did before he died. As Darth Vader though, he was a ruthless tyrant, and military genius. He is extremely well verse, and powerful in the force. As well a accomplish duelist of the highest order. Vader has taken down Jedi across the stars, and help nearly put a end to the Rebel Alliance until his own son finally convince him to turn back to the Light Side.
Vader Sports a powerful armor suit with a built in respirator system that helps his breathing. He has powerful cybernetic limbs as well. For weapons all he needs is his trusty Lightsaber and versatile Force abilities. Armed with these he will surely take the victory here. Killing the legend of Commander Shepard, making his death count three times now :)
As far as this match is concern, it will mostly be up to you to prove you can survive Vader speed, skill, lightsaber attacks, and Force attacks. All in all your guy is pretty outclass. Even against a Canon Vader. Bring it on.
Counter for inevitable "Telekinesis GG"
Counter for inevitable "Telepathy GG"
How the Commander takes down Vader:
@sirfizzwhizz it's all you.
Counter for inevitable "Telekinesis GG"
Mass Effect shields and armor have innate resistance to Telekinesis.
A good example is here. Telekinesis attacks merely stun the armored targets, only once the armor is down can they be TKd (Keep in mind these are basically training dummies, hence them being so weak.)
I'll post more examples if you don't believe me. This should be sufficient though.
I can already pick holes in this argument alone. For one its base on game mechanics, unless you can point out something in the lore stating why "armor" negates TK.
Second off, Jack, a powerful Bionic TK fine Mech Droids in the second game even though they have "Armor" without wearing it down.
Third, Vader TK is massively stronger than Shepherds pull in canon.
So even if we assume the "armor" counters TK, its only TK of Shepards level which is far inferior.
Counter for inevitable "Telepathy GG"
Shepard has resisted Reaper indoctrination throughout the entire series. If that wasn't enough, in "The Arrival" DLC in Mass Effect 2, Shepard slept for 2 days right next to a reaper artifact that had indoctrinated the entire Space Station. He woke up with no ill effects and destroyed the Star Sytsem (Long Story).
He also straight up resisted mind rape from Morinth. Link (16:20)
Im not worried about TP as Canon Vader does not rely on it in battle. Though he will be able to read minds fine. Like he did Luke's.
And he has training to such things.
How the Commander takes down Vader:
Shepard has a myriad of ways.
Way 1: Chuck a biotic singularity at him, essentially a mini Black Hole
This gravitational power sucks multiple enemies within a radius to a single area, leaving them floating helplessly and vulnerable to attack. It can also attract objects from the environment, such as crates or pieces of furniture; enemies will take damage if they collide with other solid objects in the Singularity field.
Assuming it will be fully upgraded, it will last for 20 seconds, while Vader is floating helplessly Shepard sprays him in the face or blows him up with a grenade, or even worse uses throw and causes a Biotic Explosion to kill Vader.
This is negated by Vader TK and precog. The fact is Singularity does not show strong enough Gravity pull to affect vehicles, and the force does not harm troops, so its quite weak in power. Vader can counter that. Then there is the fact Vader is fast, and has precog on his side.
All the reason for Vader to simply avoid said attack or its radius.
Way 2: Shepard puts Vader in a Stasis Field.
Stasis is an unlockable biotictalent available to Adepts, Sentinels, Krogan Battlemasters, and Asari Scientists. Stasis causes an enemy to be temporarily locked in amass effect field, freezing the target in place and making them unable to attack.
Same way as above to kill Vader.
Again several problems. Stasis never worked on anything like Vader with TK that outstrips it. You have to prove for it to work on someone like Vader, like say show it working on Jack who comes closest, though still weaker. Also as broke this move is, Vader can still attack with Force even when unable to move.
Both times using only his mind to drect the Force to Choke across lightyears, or planetary distances. He would be far from helpless.
Way 3: Biotic Charge.
Charge is a bioticpower exclusive to Vanguards in Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, and Tela Vasir in Mass Effect 2. The Vanguard uses biotics to augment speed and strength, and charges across the battlefield towards a target. This culminates in a powerful collision that sends enemies flying backward, inflicting massive damage. The collision negates the mass of an enemy, allowing for even the largest of enemies to be sent flying backwards.
This also phases through objects, so if Vader is trying to take cover or if he's throwing objects at him this will be a good counter. If Vader makes the mistake of trying to leap at Shepard this will wreck him.
Actually the Biotic charge is not intangible. It fails to go through walls and even railings to my own displeasure as a Vanguard lol. It is a fast attack, but only super sonic at best.
Which Vader can counter. In the second scan, most important, Vader withstands the blows of the heavy blasters that blew apart trees, and earth where they strike, yet Vader deflected those heavy shots that pushed him back. Im not seeing Biotic Charge knocking back or anything to Vader when its weaker than that fire power.
There are more, but hat should suffice, here are some more misc. things that will cause Vader trouble.
Combat Drone - Spherical Drone which can shoot Hard Light rockets.
Vader can one shot it with the force.
Overload - Will negate Vaders tech. So he'll likely suffocate.
Vader Tech has many times been shut down or broken, and he sustains himself fine with the force till it activates. he done this in canon when Palpatine lightning fried his respirator, yet he hung to life fine with the Force. Same for when he burned alive, and sustain himself with the force till a respirator was installed, hours later. Add to all this Vader can block overload.
Like he does any energy with Tutaminis, a technique that absorbs or disperses energy. Force Barrier can also counter.
Lift grenades - If they tag it will have Vader suspended in mid-air.
Thats not even worth bringing up due to Vader skill, and TK.
Adrenaline Rush - Speeds up Sheps perceptions to see everything in slow motion.
Vader will still be faster even with Shepard using this very temporary buff.
Tech Armor - If Vader gets close he'll detonate t to push him back.
True, but what is a simple push back when Vader has held his ground against of far greater force?
Invisibility - May trip him up, may not.
Not with Force Sense. He can be blind and fight normal.
Throw - Basically a high speed orb that hits with around 1000 Newtons of force.
Weaker than Vader is throwing.
Tungsten Rounds - Will make his bullets tear through Vader like butter if the tag.
Lightsaber negates this.
Slam - Will just TK slam Vader around.
I actually laughed a bit at that one lol, Im still chuckling.
Ball is back in your court. @precrisisbardock:
@those_eyes said:
That picture of vader smoking a cigarette is so stupid. lol
All the cool Force users do it. Your just a loser.
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@those_eyes: your just a hater
you're just a fanboy!
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@those_eyes: Funny enough, that's the medical chart for Pokemon fans :)
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@those_eyes: Funny enough, that's the medical chart for Pokemon fans :)
wrecked! XD Just for you eyes,
@killerwasp said:
@sirfizzwhizz said:
@those_eyes: Funny enough, that's the medical chart for Pokemon fans :)
wrecked! XD Just for you eyes,
@precrisisbardock: So... you in this? Or have you better things to do?
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