#1
Posted by Esquire
(3328 posts)
- 4 months, 29 days ago
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The God of Thunder, Alyssabird's Champion
VS
The Flash: Wally West, Esquire's Challenger
Rules:
Wally West is unarmed.
Pre-Flashpoint, Post-Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths feats are valid for Wally.
Thor has Odin Force, Belt of Strength, and Mjolnir.
All non-retconned feats performed by Thor himself are valid, except for those performed when he was King Thor or Rune King Thor.
Thor can use any Odin Force abilities that he's shown or strongly indicated he is capable of using. He cannot use all of Odin's feats, since Odin has demonstrated more skill with the Odin Force than Thor has.
In Character, strategy-wise.
Morals On.
Random Encounter.
No Prep.
Basic Knowledge.
Win by Death, KO, or Incapacitation.
No BFR.
Fight takes place in an unpopulated Endless New York next to an Endless Ocean.
#5
Posted by Esquire
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- 4 months, 28 days ago
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@Alyssabird: Wally's biggest advantage here is his speed. He's so fast that he can amp his perceptions to a point where the world seems to stand still.
So he will have ample time to make whatever moves he wants before Thor has a chance to even begin reacting. Since both combatants have basic knowledge of their opponents, he'll know Thor has massive durability, so he won't feel the need to pull his punches. Wally has no qualms about unleashing a burst of super-speed punches, even to characters of lower durability than Thor. So he'll be perfectly willing to blitz Thor and hit him a few dozen times.
And he can hit far harder than he hit Deathstroke here. Since he knows how powerful Thor is, he'll accordingly hit him much harder.
@Esquire:Hey I would auto-resign if I had to defend somebody who has poor reaction feats against that fasted person in fiction XD
I'm with you, but she seemed pretty convinced. She actually challenged me to do a OF Thor vs Flash debate, and it was an opportunity I couldn't pass up.
I came here to see Thor be reminded why thunder only FOLLOWS the Lightning. Instead, I get drinking, possible substitutions, and gender confusion. Which admittedly, is entertaining in it's own right, but NOT what I'm here to see!
I came here to see Thor be reminded why thunder only FOLLOWS the Lightning. Instead, I get drinking, possible substitutions, and gender confusion. Which admittedly, is entertaining in it's own right, but NOT what I'm here to see!
I came here to see Thor be reminded why thunder only FOLLOWS the Lightning. Instead, I get drinking, possible substitutions, and gender confusion. Which admittedly, is entertaining in it's own right, but NOT what I'm here to see!
I came here to see Thor be reminded why thunder only FOLLOWS the Lightning. Instead, I get drinking, possible substitutions, and gender confusion. Which admittedly, is entertaining in it's own right, but NOT what I'm here to see!
does flash have any on panel feats taking down anyone above silver surfer level single handedly because of thor is about thanos level. And i dont think an imp will even tickle him pis aside. I need a scan that puts flash on this level or else u guys are just fan boys who probably think flash can beat odin becos of speed
does flash have any on panel feats taking down anyone above silver surfer level single handedly because of thor is about thanos level. And i dont think an imp will even tickle him pis aside. I need a scan that puts flash on this level or else u guys are just fan boys who probably think flash can beat odin becos of speed
The end of your statement has nothing to do with the beginning. Just saying.
@thanosii:Thor is not on Thanos level unless your thinking of AA Thanos, and The IMP work on a white Martian although he didn't use it to the best of it's ability, and WM have durability comparable to the Martian Manhunter, who is the same league as Thor. But this is all ABC logic so you can take it or leave it
I came here to see Thor be reminded why thunder only FOLLOWS the Lightning. Instead, I get drinking, possible substitutions, and gender confusion. Which admittedly, is entertaining in it's own right, but NOT what I'm here to see!
Wally's biggest advantage here is his speed. He's so fast that he can amp his perceptions to a point where the world seems to stand still.
So he will have ample time to make whatever moves he wants before Thor has a chance to even begin reacting. Since both combatants have basic knowledge of their opponents, he'll know Thor has massive durability, so he won't feel the need to pull his punches. Wally has no qualms about unleashing a burst of super-speed punches, even to characters of lower durability than Thor. So he'll be perfectly willing to blitz Thor and hit him a few dozen times.
And he can hit far harder than he hit Deathstroke here. Since he knows how powerful Thor is, he'll accordingly hit him much harder.
While yes it's true Flash is massively quicker than Thor and capable of hitting him many times before he can react...Thor still has a chance to win
Here's why
1. Morals this is really what prevents this from being an utter stomp, while Flash knows Thor is extremely durable and capable of elemental control Thor also has knowledge on Flash's speed.
2. Now in character Thor won't try to take on a speedster head on he'll use his elemental powers to take him out
I know Quick Silver was goofing around and Thor caught him off guard plus Wally is faster but this scan proves one of my points,
One it proves Thor is not a fool and will change his tactics that will help him best take out the speedster in this scenario a Area Of Attack blast took out Quick Silver which can do the same forWally remember folks there are many occasions when Wally has been predictable even Death Stroke quotes this
While Thor may not know Flash he has his experience with speedsters as evidenced in the quick silver scan which also means he'll expect Wally coming to attack him straight on which is what Wally would do in Character.
3. Thor is very durable and should last long enough for him to using an Area Of Effect Attack
Let's not forget, Thor can tank Sky Father level hits with Odin Force; could Flash hit that hard? I seriously doubt it. Or the fact that a single, determined strike from Thor can either, a) Hurt Galactus b)Break Celestial Armour. Or the fact that Odin Force Thor could bust the planet, or fly into Space and send his mallet down to finish the job; seeing as how it was able to out run even Silver Surfer in space. Please don't ask for scans, these are all feats and I'd rather not go through the effort. Also, IMP attacks drain Flash, and seeing as OF Thor could tank sky father level hits, I doubt he would pack enough life force to defeat Thor. Basically a spite.
And? He couldn't put Thor down. Doesn't matter if you can react faster/punch, if you can't put someone down, you can't put them down. What's to stop Thor from amping to insane levels?
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