CaV: NeonGameWave (Dante) vs Cjdavis103 (Ichigo)

@neongamewave: Not exactly sold on the Music it should go more like

But I like it You want to post frist or should I ?

@neongamewave:

Thanks, I only found out about this band a few weeks ago while listing to the radio

yeah I suppose sweet sacrifice fits the story better but the fight would be more like the Light up the sky IMO

It's getting late here so I might not post tonight Ill have my post up by tomorrow at the latest

@neongamewave:

can you use spoiler block on your Videos? it's messing up my computer

Yeah this is the third crash on this page please block some of them

@neongamewave:

thanks

@cjdavis103: @neongamewave:

WOOT!

*gets popcorn*

Goodluck guys

Now Dante`s durability/healing factor is extremely high tier and complicatedly impressive, impressive enough to make Hulk, Wolverine, Deadpool and even Ichigo feel insecure also enough to dwarf and school them its staggeringly mind blowing how Dante is able to survive all this like its a hobby or a norm.

Durability is not HF, he may be able to heal like Wolverine but he is nowhere near as indestructible as him. Ichigo in hollow form has a similar healing feat but he dose not need it here. While his HF is impressive his durability is a joke in comparison to Ichigo

Actually he is as in proof to what I have shown you he definitely is in regards to his healing factor actually being more developed and it is, Wolverine has indestructibility because of the adamantium exoskeleton but Dante outclasses him when it comes to raw force reception. Dante can take hits that should kill him without feeling any pain and the wounds heal instantenously fast unlike Wolverine which is shown to being closed up after a few seconds also Dante has on numerous occassions survived being impaled in the heart, Wolverine wouldn`t and in terms of durability Dante has the more proficient durability structure because he has faced or packed a punch against enemies who would lay Ichigo to rest and waste an example would be Mundus. Dante tanked his organic and supernatural meteorites.

Dante survives being cut by Yamato and impaled by his sword right after by his brother Vergil. 1:07-2:30, Survives being cut by Yamato, even when in a weakened state and is mostly drained of his battle with Vergil. This is a younger Dante too. 3:12 Survives bullet to the head

These all show case his HF not his Durabilaty . he gets pierced by swords easly and a normal bullet can pierce its way to his brain. He trys this whith Ichigos sword and we will have to see if Dante can regen from a red smear on soul society.

His HF lines up with his durability in the sense of how much he can take in regards to blunt force

Survives being impaled through the chest by a supernatural weapon of lightning and even if he does seem to get pierced or repelled with swords (which are above Ichigo`s understanding they are hellfire forged weapons of dimensional power as confirmed in the games` lore itself). Dante heals to the point where there is no wound at all so it doesn`t really matter at the end of the day also its not like Ichigo would be able to even keep up with him most of the time considering the fact Dante is much faster than he is and his mind is more advanced as well as alert.

Again shows how easy it is to inflict damage on him

False, its actually not easy to inflict damage on him its the level of weaponry involved that matters. Nero`s Devil Bringer which is>>>>Ichigo`s blades couldn`t even make a single dent on Dante`s face and he came out like nothing happening confirming the fact he was toying with him. Ichigo can easily be harmed by Yamato a sword that can cut through dimensions, reality, seal complete worlds and can also cut through anything, any fabric, any law.

Is not bothered by the flames nor temperature of Berial the Conqueror of the Fire Hell in which his flames are of hell fire Survives the attack or assault of the angry and flaming Ifrit as its flames are hotter than that of a volcano

Impressive to bad Flame protection will not help him here

It showcases his durability and resistance levels also who`s not to say Dante wouldn`t be able to withstand through Ichigo`s energy pulse rays which contain a heat base?

Survives being impaled in the chest by three of Mundus` laser beams. 0:46-0:48

Firstly more proof on how easy it is to inflict damage on him secondly not laser beams more on that latter

Their laser beams as confirmed in the lore also regardless their greater their demonic/magical beams these beams would of done Ichigo harm. This is Dante at a more weaker level as well.

Survives Mundus` powerful and life threatening eye beams once again and is directly hit by Mundus`s summoned meteorites but once the next battle begins, he does not look worn out or severely damaged. 6:18-6:25

1. Not beams but again more on that latter 2. The metiorrites where not that big mayb a pit biger than him, and we have no real destruction power on those meteorites to gauge how powerfull they are3. The bext fight he is not flying around and constantly shooting energy attacks that is a good indaction he lost quite a bit of strength recovering from that attack

They are beams or energy rays, also the meteorites were pretty big in size regardless what makes them more deadly is the fact that their imbued with magical properties and are summoned from a great height of velocity, not really when Dante was pummeled to the next stage of the battle he only got a bit dazed but unaffected and this battle was going on for a good while.

His face is still intact after being pummelled mercilessly by an angry Nero`s Devil Bringer which is able to crack stone and block Rebellion and he also survives being impaled directly in the chest by Rebellion once again and shrugs it off, he also removes Rebellion, showing no signs of pain or discomfort

In the video a wind up attack from Devil bringer barrly pirced a metal gate and a stone wall Ichigo packed more power than that in his first arc as a death god. Now such an attack would bounce off of him like a bullet to superman. Agin the most impressive thing in this clip is his HF I,ll admit taking that kind of punishment is impressive but a very low ball for peak Ichigos durability he took 5 massive tower shattering hits and keep going Dante was stunned by a slightly rock crushing barrage the difeance is huge here

Its a concentrated spectral item that Nero channels for energy and just because collateral damage did not happen in the intended purpose you had hoped for doesn`t make it any less than what Ichigo can do, the Devil Bringer has shown to crack demonic stone that is infused with ancient demonic power also it has broken through not so ordinary steal while also having enough force to throw back extremely large demons, Dante was not stunned at all he later admits he was kidding around Nero that incarnation of Dante as well exemplifies goofiness and immaturity he also has displayed that level of carelessness in those younger days and years, who`s to say Ichigo would be able to survive being impaled in the heart?

Smiles and is annoyed due to being impaled by the demon Sid who violently impaled him with his own sword, and he violently removes rebellion from his chest without hesitation. 2:17-3:40

Nice music! Still gets his ass kicked in round 1. And it was a while after he was stabbed his earlier feats where more impressive

Music is awesome, I agree! Not exactly he was kidding their too he even tells Padi that he took a nap and Dante holds back a lot he gave Sid chances, many chances but as soon as Sid became Abigail he killed him with absolute ease making him look like a kindergarten demon and Sid is supposed to be a multi-world conquering power even compared to Mundus, Ichigo for sure as I know him well enough to know Sid would be quite the threat yet Dante in his weaker stages annihilates him in mere seconds.

Survives Trish`s demonic lightning which was given to her by Mundus himself. He also survives as well as shrugs off being impaled by Force Edge. 2:14-3:05

Yeah the electric shocks a decent resilience to bad Ichigo does not use an elemental attack otherwise you could make a good argument here and I ll reefeance my earlier stab feats

Its very impressive considering its being channeled and put to form through the Force Edge blade yet Dante takes it as its nothing and has Trish repelled this is also Dante at a more younger stage. I don`t see Ichigo being able to keep up with Dante anyway also Ichigo won`t be surviving a slash from Yamato or Alastor.

Dante also has Chrono Heart which would help him in this fight. devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Amulet

I’ll come back to this latter

Don`t mind this, Chrono Heart along with the other time items are restricted from the match so you don`t have to worry.

Here are some more feats for Dante in regards to damage outisde of physical injury

….. how are these applicable?

1:12 - 1:30

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0:02 - 4:11

Dante is impaled by his own sword Rebellion violently in the chest as well as heart by the demon Sid who becomes the godlike demon Abigail however this doesn`t phase Dante as he just laughs and removes the blade causing Patty to want to remove the sword but what she fails to realize was that Dante was only taking a nap intently and purposely, joking around as usual and he removes the sword with a smile, removing without hesitation feeling no pain or discomfort

Again blocked so I can’t make a good judgment here

He has impressively and consistently demonstrated the fact of being able to dodge or reflect FTL attacks firstly from the Demon god Mundus and then from Arius both are light attacks also the first is a laser beam which are confirmed as being FTL.

dodge or reflect FTL

No, not even close

Mundas’s “lasers” are not Lasers look at the Video the “Lasers” stick in his body that is not laser beams those are solid and Lasers are not Solid. They are more likely magical energy attacks of some sort

They are lasers you haven`t even proven why they are you only have speculatively and objectively discredited them, the light beam is what I`m referring to also this is fictional interpration and their not normal lasers by any means which doesn`t take away anything from them. The light beam is definitely a laser beam and it is not solid also for Dante to reflect it just goes to validate my point about demonic energy canceling other forms of demonic energy which has been consistently displayed within the DMC universe.

The light attack is better but is more along the lines of a telephone punch Dante knew where he was going ahead of time( he was moving before the camera cut to him). You are henging his FTL speeds on an unknown attack and 5 seconds of video that is a bit flimsy IMO.

Not true, Dante reacted totally off of reflex as you can see in the video Dante was starring and mourning from Trish until it cut back to Mundus and then the beam was fired, Dante reacted solely off of that attack with his demonic aura. The attack is a light beam and a laser beam at the fact of what was demonstrated its not flimsy its the perspective you`re viewing it from.

Also if he had FTL speed why would he neeed a motorcycle? Ichigo can travel on “foot” across a city, and deep into the wilderness in a single flash step while careering a guy like Aizen. Ichigos speed is much more consistent and I know that Neo was not FTL and he was making Dante hurt

Dante uses a motorcycle for the purposes of character not personal power, he has many times used and relied on his speed more than a motorcycle, not true its just more flashy and cinmeatic. While Ichigo is fastly impressive he doesn`t measure up to Dante in the slightest and Nero did not hurt Dante at all, also as I have already told you Dante was playing with Nero which he later admitted.

As for the cut sceen he got jumped and stabed by mooks. That’s just embarrassing. I know he regens out of it but still the fact that he got hit by them dose not say FTL reaction and speed.( on a side note remid me never to hire him as a handy man he will kill my home) And I really hope you have something better than featless mooks to use as a good example .

Invalid conjecture.

10:34 - 10:50, Dante reacts to an incoming missile and he hops onto the missile with no effort, and this is coming in at fast speeds

-.- that is showing off and seriously Ichigo is moveing at speads that even superhuman Death gods whith hundreds of years of ecxperanince under thire belt cnat follow that m isle might as well be standing still.

Showing off for the fact of.... Dante still shows the feat nonetheless and that`s his personality also remember this is a weaker incarnation of Dante, Ichigo doesn`t have that experience and Dante can teleport as well.

At point 2:31, you can see Dante cut and react to an incoming missile also Dante wasn`t even really paying attention to it he just reacted to it like it was nothing

See above comment

At point 1:14 - 2:45, Dante in a short burst vanishes and fires accurately at the demon armor also this is Dante in human form, in Devil Trigger form he would be more than five times as fast

I’ll admit this is a good showing of speed and agility He is indeed impressive but the foes he was faceing here are mooks and we have no idea how fast they are. And he is not vanishing he is just going fast Which Ichigo does as his normal move speed. Also this entire fight was him fighting for a foot hold he is not flying and Ichigo can and he can at monsterious speeds.

That doesn`t deduct anything though also this is a Dante that is being a joke he is not bloodlusted or amoral and this is him at his weaker stages, Ichigo won`t be able to perceive these movements, Dante is faster than Byakuya`s bankai, Kenpachi, Aizen and Grimmjow.

At point 0:15 - 0:24, Dante easily and with great marksmanship fires multiple bullets to force Yamato into the Savior also this shows that Dante does not only have great speed and timing but he also has great accuracy

1. Bullets are useless aginst someone like Ichigo who can eiter doge tank or siple obliterate them 2. …. Seriously some one screwed up on physics in this game or his bullets have more force than his entire body 3. There might have been some PIS invoved here depending on how sharp Yamato is

Not their not, Dante`s bullets and weaponry are completely magical in nature also Dante can even charge them also they have enough damage effect to destroy ghosts, intangibles and spectral beings which Ichigo falls under in terms of classification.

OFFICIAL GAME and MANUAL DESCRIPTIONS:

Air Trick Instantaneously teleport to a spot directly near the enemy.

Level 2

Trick Up ++ Instantaneously teleport to a spot directly above where you were standing or jumping.

Level 3

Trick Down ++

Instantaneously teleport to a spot directly below where you were standing or jumping.

Read your own OP please these are GAME MECHANICS

Actually their not its gameplay, game mechanics are different, game mechanics are HP, Gauge and limitations such as Devil Trigger. Its even in the lore as well which is the manual and story arcs.

Now in terms of strength and striking power Dante is no joke, this alone can be the the deciding factor in regards to why Dante would win in the first place because his overall strength is greater while Ichigo is strong he doesn`t actually come close to Dante in the slightest.

*grabs popcorn* this ought to be good I mean Dante must obliterate a mountain or two in this right!

1:08 - 1:18, Dante with no trouble at all is able to break Abigail`s claws which are impaled deeply into his body and these claws are able to cut through stone and steel easily as well as buildings leveled at the height of skyscrapers.

The most impressive feat here was not the fact he broke those spikes which we have no feats for besides able to pirce steel and concreat and Dante( not impressive), but instead the feat at the end of the clip where their battle destroyed the top of the tower….

Actually Abigail was breaking down skyscrapers and multiple complexes with ease with those claws if I`m not mistaken also that very same energy he channels throughout his body he was using these outbursts of spiking raw demonic energy to destroy an entire city or populace.

What a minute

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Ichigo tanked with little effort before his power up 5 Tower shattering shots where Dante could barely mange one when fighting another powerful demon. Not looking to impressive here

Dante toyed with Abigail you know that? And stomped him outright, Dante doesn`t need to rely on raw power to defeat Ichigo its his versatility, superior stats that is going to win him the battle pretty easily and Dante`s weapons or energy strikes are not spiritual they are demonic/magical so it will make quite the difference to bypass Ichigo`s durability regardless due to the nature of magic.

At point 3:28 - 3:36, Dante in a single swipe with Rebellion has Dagon a powerful ice demon completely obliterated and it was a soft swipe as well.

The Ice demon was after a long fight beforehand it was not a one shot

But it still occurred.

At point 6:10 - 6: 42, Dante swings Rebellion and blade is sharp enough to penetrate Vergil`s durability as well as healing factor, also Vergil has shown to being able to fight for hours and keep himself standing tall.

Would you say that Vergil is close to Dante in strength? If he is you just spelled doom for you entire argument. You just said that enough force can overcome their HF and Ichigo has that kind of force in spades

No not all during that time, times were different that was Dante at his youngest and I didn`t say that I made point in mention that Dante`s weaponry which Ichigo doesn`t have. Dante`s weapons are stronger than Ichigo`s and they contain magic which makes you`re point invalid. Also Dante is not Vergil and Dante is faster so I don`t see Ichigo keeping up with him to make any real issues.

At point 9:08 - 9:40, Dante is attacked by this heavily armored and large demon, it forms itself within a spinning spiked sphere and it tries to attack Dante but with Rebellion and a soft swipe is able to bust a massive hole, cause things to explode within the area they were fighting, the demon gets smashed into a wall from the force of the strike.

So the force can bust a wall unless the wall is made of adamantium that is no where near Ichigo in destructive capacity. I cant comment on how aromered the demon was as the link to the video is gone but I will assume that the fact he cut thourge it was impressive as Demons aromer is usually >>> steel

Dante barely exercised any type of excessive force in that strike he did it under a soft swipe there`s no proof that Ichigo would be able to even endure through a magical weapon of that caliber its not about force but its about the element of force behind the force impacted and the video worked for me.

At point 6:45 - 7:08, Dante gets swallowed by this magical demon and this demon is pretty much intangible as well as from another plane but with Rebellion he slices it wide open another fact proving why Dante`s weapons contain a great deal of magic and raw demonic energy.

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Your point?

My point is Dante`s weapons will be able to harm Ichigo considering the level of strength and magical bravado they contain.

At point 5:33, Dante with Rebellion and a simple swing is able to repel an incoming heat missile fired off by Lady and Lady customizes her weapons as well.

Ichigo’s simple swing

compare as you will

At point 1:00 - 1:11, Dante throws Rebellion with enough force to crack and puncture through the Savior`s durability and this statue contains centuries of demonic energy harvested and harnessed within demonic stone, only demonic weapons can harm it. The following information is apart of the actual lore and is from the in game descriptions as well as manuals from DMC 4. Even Nero`s weapons are ineffective against it forcing him and giving him no choice but to use his Devil Bringer Arm which tanked Rebellion as well during his first fight with Dante.

Impressive but as you said it is vulnerable to demonic weapons so durability to Rebellion is suspect at best. Ah yes Devilbringer the arm that barely managed to break a metal gate and dent a wall I am very scared

Its not merely vulnerable its more so invulnerable but dependent on the kind of weapons being used its Dante`s sheer power that is being used here and that same Devil Bringer crushed the Savior in the end where Nero shows the fact he channels different energy levels. Dante would be able to replicate Ichigo`s feat of that destructive capacity if he wanted to but he holds back rather a lot which he won`t be doing here.

At point 6:00 - 6:27, Nero`s DB Arm tanks Rebellion but the sword is able to make a heavy clash and cause demonic energy to force its way throughout the entire room, this same DB is able to crush the Savior through its spectral form and force back large demons.

A room sized explosion vs one that makes a nuke look like a fire cracker which do you think is more destructive?

A concentrated room sized explosion that was held back.

supplemented the Savior`s punch this alone is>>>>Ichigo`s display of physical strength.

……..realy

Ichigo blew up a mountain that was bigger than savior whit a single swing and he was not even trying to destroy it! You think that he is going to be overpowered by that please

That`s striking power not physical strength and Ichigo hasn`t shown that level of physical strength on a consistent basis.

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Here he stopping the Zero Espada the most powerful without using his mask, then blasting him down. And this is him exusted and barely a 1/3 of his power remaing and before his major powerup. He stops Savior with one hand then tosses it across the ocean for funzies

That again is striking power there`s a huge difference.

Now Ichigo is extremely powerful and gifted like I have acknowledged as that feat may be very impressive I find it hard to gauge or agree with the level of consistency due to the lack of substantial evidence as the technique although considered as being a one-shot weapon or manipulator of space and time it didn`t display much but I`ll take it as face value but Dante has impressive feats of his own he was able to create and summon up a dimensional sealing technique called Jackpot as he sealed Mundus for another 2000 years like his father did before him.

You said it he has only used it once and on a being that was already in another dimension not applicable here.

He used it before and its not a one time thing also he has other sealing options through Yamato as well as the Sword of Sparda. The dimension doesn`t actually matter considering the fact that Dante made it back from the island and the demonic realm where he battled Mundus in the human domain which makes it more impressive.

Dante also does not need to worry about spirit energy or power the real issue in question will be if Ichigo would be able to match or even overpower Dante`s demonic energy which has shown to being able to repel and lock gods. Its not a test of durability its a test of will and resilience.

Your joking

In bleach If someone is miles above they outer they transend them. Mening they are so powerful that unless they want to lesser beings can’t sense them. Aizen dose this to SS captins who are Insainely powerfull and are all building busters at the very least, and the higer ones could be city busters , and Ichigo dose this to Aizen. His Sprite power is way more than Dante hell Dante might not be able to sense him because of the Trandndence thing. But for the sake of this fight I will say he can

I`m not joking, its truth and just because those things happen in Bleach doesn`t mean its going to bring Dante down especially since he`s far above many of the top-tier Bleach characters, Dante has fought demons who are city busters and domain conquerors he`s bested them with his greater will also Dante will sense him he has sensed high levels of energy before such as Mundus who is>>>Aizen so its a rather moot and void point, who`s to say Ichigo would be able to see Dante?

agree but it won`t help him it will only delay the inevitable considering Dante himself has an energy tracker

already on iffy territory whith transentaince but I will let is slide.

DT simultaneously in that very moment

How long can Dante hold DT?

By game mechanics there`s a limit but its actually unlimited especially when he`s placed into his Majin Form all the above feats I`ve shown you were mostly at base form so imagine a Dante using his Devil Trigger forms which amplifies all of those capabilities.

Dante will be able to easily outmaneuver those attacks or even redirect them with Royal Guard

Again that is a gameplay function!!!!!!!!

Its lore and its apart of the battle here as well as Dante`s armory also its not game mechanics whatsoever.

Dante is far too fast for Ichigo and Dante can track his movements as well also I don`t see how Ichigo is going to be able to keep up with Dante`s teleportation.

1. No not even close 2. I’ll let you have that, 3. GAME PLAY FUNCTION!!!!!!

If Dante wants a close up fight That is what he will get if he can fly his way up to Ichigo ( you still have not covered how fast DT flight is) they can engage in mid air combat Dante's best attack feat you have given him was the tower busting one so 5 times that you get to Grimjows level which After all of his power ups since then makes the attack meaningless Dante could sit the all day hacking at him and only do damage to himself. while to your own admission if Enough damage is done faste enough it will kill him , Ichigo whose strength is massively more powerful then Dante's can Overcome his HF with relative ease meaning try to take the fight in close is as much suicde as staying at range

Dante can fly as high as he wants and fire meteorites or channeled energy beams that are above>>>>>mountain level and city level energy strikes so imagine Ichigo having to take that without defense also like I have said its not about physical raw power and not even durability these are strong factors but Dante will take this with his versatility, Yamato alone can kill Ichigo. Here are Dante`s flying feats and also he can fly as high as he wants he`s quick in the transformation stages as well.

At point 2:38 - 2:45, Dante grabs Lucia and jumps onto a rocky plane with ease saving her from the explosion which happened in an instant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3zbnB8lTw-A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playerAt point 6:43 - 7:00, Dante in a burst of speed is able to grab Lucia and Arius immediately in that instance fired a pulse of demonic energy causing the building to ultimately catch on fire as well as explode in that area or vicinity. It also showcases Dante`s fast transition into his Devil Trigger form and it highlights his flying speed as well which is extremely quick._embedded&v=MenQHlq9k2I

Also another point to bring to light is that you haven`t debunked Dante`s speed feats you forget to acknowledge the fact of Arius` light beam attack which Dante blatantly dodged and avoided.

Also there is Majin Form, Royal Guard, Doppelganger (Dante can create two shadow clones which have all of Dante`s abilities and Ichigo won`t be able to harm them), Yamato (a blade that can cut through anything), Beowulf (contains a concentrated supernova confirmed by the creators of the game which dwarfs all of Ichigo`s power feats busting mountains and towers don`t compare when Dante has faced and bested demons who can bust cities, control realms through raw power and Dante has cut through hell gates which are skyscraper in level). This is the tip of the iceberg............

But I`m being generous and slow as well as curious in how Ichigo will be scaled.

However you have brought to my attention really cool feats and I like you`re intepration of them this is awesome!

@neongamewave

your move

@cjdavis103 You`re move now.

@neongamewave: So much coreecting to do so little time

Ahhhh that’s cute the little demon slayer thinks he is indestructible, that’s cute

He`s not indestructible but he his definitely nigh immortal which makes up for that quite a lot.

Wolverine has indestructibility because of the adamantium exoskeleton but Dante outclasses him when it comes to raw force reception

Uhhh how? Wolverine is indistructable, Dante is not

Wolverine is to a point indestructible however, he is not nigh immortal or nearly invincible and Dante has the greater healing factor as his raw force in-takings are of a far greater scale, I doubt Wolverine would be able to survive being impaled in the heart by a supernatural weapon from hell itself or from another dimension altogether.

Dante can take hits that should kill him without feeling any pain and the wounds heal instantenously

His HF has never been tested beyond being shocked burned and stabbed can he regen from just a skelleation? Unless you have feats for that do not compare him to being better than Wolverine in the Regen department

I understand you`re point but you`re kind of missing the point, it has been tested and never bested, let me repeat - never bested which is a true testament to its effectiveness in consistency on a regular basis. That`s the special note, Dante is nigh immortal his healing factor makes him virtually impervious to those situations because of how well developed and efficient it is, his healing is faster which is my point and he recovers quicker he doesn`t feel pain, Wolverine on the other hand does from much less Wolverine in terms of showings probably has the factor of OP going for him but Dante has the overall better range in versatility his healing factor is unique and versatile all on its own this is the significance of my point.

also Dante has on numerous occassions survived being impaled in the heart, Wolverine wouldn`t

-.- please do some research before you say something like that Wolverine is essentially immortal he can regen from pretty much anything, Dante’s best Regen feat was having a sword imapiled in him and not fealing pain ( which can be a big weakness)

That is not true he is not immortal Wolverine currently has complex redesigns and configurations but at the core of his history he has never displayed that level of near immortality as the Demon Hunter and I`m a huge fan also close follower of Wolverine`s storylines I`m aware of his feats. That`s not his biggest feat he has been smashed into the ground by supernova gauntlets, carved up, assaulted by hellfire gauntlets that are hotter than a volcano, soul drained and etc without having much trouble in the receptive department in other words not having not even a minimal amount of trouble recovering or enduring this is especially shown to be the case without his DEVIL TRIGGER, that fact alone is vastly important.

he has faced or packed a punch against enemies who would lay Ichigo to rest and waste an example would be Mundus. Dante tanked his organic and supernatural meteorites

Mundas….. realy both Mundas and Dante are slow as hell ( pun not intended) whne they are flying Ichigo could doge circles around them in Shikai form let alone Peak Ichigo. As for them hurting him. I have yet to see any noteworthy Destruction feats from the entire Dante Universe

Not true in game cinematic they may look slow but the velocity in the speed of what they convey is much faster, Dante`s speed feats prove this also I don`t recall Ichigo being able to take down a reality warping god who has mastered magic and dimensional manipulation, Aizen is not even a planetary threat. Mundus is more than a planetary threat its common sense to know and experience this truth as the fact. There are plenty of destruction feats it depends on if you played or had the chance to objectively and prospectively determine or justify what fits in certain context or what doesn`t actually fit coming from someone who`s a major fan of both Bleach and DMC as he follows both closely would know.

Dante tanked his organic and supernatural meteorites

Again give me a scan or vid that shows how powerful they are because all you have is assumptions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dPc_G7gOto8

Their not assumptions and they were demonstrated in plain sight or view to see, the amount of destruction is apparent they are channeled meteorites that Mundus summoned and they were enough to knock Dante down from the stratosphere of that manifested dimension into a sub-realm also remember this is a much weaker Dante not even the later DMC 2 oldest incarnation at the very least.............

His HF lines up with his durability in the sense of how much he can take in regards to blunt force

To bad Ichigo is packing more than just blunt force

Which shouldn`t even be a main concern or unpredictable shortcoming as Dante himself has already dealt with versatile enemies who can challenge and curbstomp Ichigo, such as Mundus, Trish, Nero (the same amazing Johnny Yong Bosh who also voiced Ichigo lol!!), Abigail, the list goes on and on.

which are above Ichigo`s understanding they are hellfire forged weapons of dimensional power as confirmed in the games` lore itself).

What? *Sigh* hell no ( again not indented)

How do you know that “it a strong sword” is beyond Ichigos understanding to grasp? Super swords are a dime a dozen in the bleach Universe

Because there are absolutely no weapons confirmed thus far up until even the manga now that states or confirms any indicator for weapons that pose as threats on a dimensional and hellish level which many of the weapons of DMC are considered to being in essence, Ichigo can comprehend that the weapons are intended to harm and kill him but he won`t be able to grasp the actual power they hold because they are so unfamiliar to the dynamics of Bleach, and DMC does differ as well which validates this point.

False, its actually not easy to inflict damage on him its the level of weaponry involved that matters. Nero`s Devil Bringer which is>>>>Ichigo`s blades couldn`t even make a single dent on Dante`s face and he came out like nothing happening confirming the fact he was toying with him. Ichigo can easily be harmed by Yamato a sword that can cut through dimensions, reality, seal complete worlds and can also cut through anything, any fabric, any law

False, its actually not easy to inflict damage on him its the level of weaponry involved that matters. Nero`s Devil Bringer which is>>>>Ichigo`s blades

Devil bringer? Honestly If you are putting Devil bringer in the same liege as rebellion you are in trouble.

Actually its a problem when this very same weapon is underestimated when its confirmed as being the weapon to end the Savior`s existence.

6:25 6:34

Devil bringers best wind up attack was slow easy doge able and all it did was slightly break a metal gate hell it barely did that,

We`ve been here before and I disagree, the DB has shown much more feats that you are overlooking it was able to toss Dagon themed demons which are massive, it was able to constrain Echnida and destroy the Savior if it could only cause damage leveled at only a metal gate then those feats would of been tricks or lackluster and framed as false but like I said its a scaled weapon similar to a Green Lantern Ring or even The Darkness artifact.

Its a concentrated spectral item that Nero channels for energy and just because collateral damage did not happen in the intended purpose you had hoped for doesn`t make it any less than what Ichigo can do

Bull, he chucked a stone sword said stone sword could not even break the wall, It is weak,

No it is not and this alone proves you haven`t played the game enough to analyze the context that was a base form Devil Bringer when it glows or signals in its blue energy then that means that more damage is shown to be caused like in Dante`s second fight with Nero where he let go of Nero when toying with him and cracked or made a large hole in the wall. It wasn`t completely harnessed during these times at all in any sense of the fact.

That’s a punch from Chad who is not even vice-captain class he is one of the weakest characters in the main cast and he can destroy a wall in a single strike,

You know Nero has done that without even attacking anything offensively right? Also he has crushed the Savior can you show me a feat where Ichigo or Chad were able to do that with pure physical strength or resistance?

Now I`m going to post Nero feats, pay attention and watch the videos full way through if you want complete content these alone prove Nero is above the weight class and power level of Chad especially considering the enemies he has beaten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJfVyvUBp-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T-oniED9as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvq5V1eUXH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxcJt7myU0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaTb3JFVsR4

1. ↑ ^1.01.1Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Nero: "Don’t ask. Damn thing drives me crazy though."
2. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Nero: "But now I know, this hand was made for sending guys like you back to Hell!"
3. ↑Devil May Cry 4: Deadly Fortune
4. ↑Devil May Cry 4 manual: Welcome to Fortuna: "A number of demons appeared suddenly from deep within the Mitis Forest and attacked the city, destroying a number of houses and inflicting slight injuries to citizens. / As luck would have it, Nero, a knight of the Order of the sword, was present at the scene. All demons were exterminated. During this incident, a private female citizen who was a travelling companion of Nero's, was injured. Nero himself received a minor injury to his right shoulder. / The ministry of technology has determined that Nero's sword, the Red Queen, took some damage and is currently being repaired. / A detailed investigation of the area was performed, but no conclusions have been made concerning the reason behind the demon attack. There will be another investigation at a later date."
5. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Nero: "From that day forth, my arm changed, and a voice echoed; Power, give me more... power!"
6. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Berial: "Your arm, you are not human!"
7. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Agnus: "I want to know more about you... and that arm!"
8. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Nero: "I will endure the exile... anything, to protect her!"
9. ↑Devil May Cry 4, Dialogue - Kyrie: "You're you, and it's you I want to be with."

the Devil Bringer has shown to crack demonic stone that is infused with ancient demonic power also it has broken through not so ordinary steal

all of Hueco Mundo is made out of dense magical stone that did not stop Chad from busting down walls

Where is it claimed or stated that Hueco Mundo is magical in nature, isn`t it mostly spiritually condensed or composed similar to Soul Society? These are the fundamentals of Bleach also I`m sure if Dante and Nero were to actually crossover into the world of Bleach they could make short work of the environment, if they can cause damage to a much more powerfully instructed world of laws such as reality itself and demonic enchantments then it shouldn`t be an issue to believe they can in a world like Bleach.

In sum you said devil bringer is = rebellion more or less

I never confirmed or agreed to that you would have to point out the exact text of context I only brought light to the fact that the Devil Bringer has enough power to hold its own but both in battle orientation the two weapons are very alike and this holds significance they are literal manifestations of their wielders/users` demonic power also it doesn`t lessen the feat or intended purpose of my point due to the fact that both have demonstrated feats greater than that of Ichigo when it comes to pure range or change of events.

Chads attack is >>>>>> Devil bringer

Actually it goes like this Nero>>>>>>Chad especially since Nero easily crushed a being that Chad would get stomped by, I don`t see Chad being able to harm the Savior.

Comparing Chads attack to Ichigos is like comparing a fire cracker to a nuke

Which is nothing special to what Dante has done and can do in any given indication of level structure. Abigail was throwing around nuke+++ leveling blasts that he contained within his entire existence of being yet Dante stomps him with no trouble at all now how is Ichigo supposed to handle a DMC 2 Dante? Also add in the fact that Dante likes to play nice and give his enemies a fair chance but here he is practically let loose, Ichigo is as good as dead.

Thus Rebellion is <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tensa Zangetsu

Reverse to get the real answer and Rebellion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ichigo`s Bankai and weapons. The sword is able to overpower dimensional demonic operating powers, how does Ichigo exactly compare? City level threats? Mountain busting level threats?

Ichigo can easily be harmed by Yamato a sword that can cut through dimensions, reality, seal complete worlds and can also cut through anything, any fabric, any law

Then why if it can cut thoure ANYTHING dose Dante not die when Virgil fought him. Simple Yamamuto cannot cut thorge Everything, if a weapon is strong enough it can resist Yammamouto and Tensa Zangetsu is much more powerful then Rebellion. Same with Aizens blade and

Because Dante `s healing factor coming from the blood of Sparda the same one who forged or mastered the blade`s properties through sheer will and power which Dante inherited through SOUL literally Sparda`s SOUL is able to withstand although come to even terms in regards to its abilities also it relies entirely in the force of the strike that is being produced as well also the blade has proven many times that it can cut through dimensions and reality, Dante has combated both principles on many occasions Ichigo on the other hand hasn`t or hasn`t quite so if a bloodlusted Dante wants his head removed it will be removed. Not true, there`s no proof for this, Rebellion has overpowered enemies who are above Aizen and the characters you mentioned making you`re point invalid.

Ichigo blocked Aizens blade with the palm of his hand with no effort

Dante blocked and stomped Abigail who is more powerful than Aizen when it comes to raw force.

Ichigos body is >>>>>>>> rebellions blade

False and highly assumed.

So yammaoto which cannot harm Rebellion cannot harm Ichigo

Rebellion comes from the same lineage and its the strikes also it doesn`t exactly mean Yamato wouldn`t be able to harm Ichigo. Ichigo if I`m not mistaken has never really dealt with magic on DMC`s level before and the supernatural laws behind it so his durability won`t be able to save him especially since he`s lacking Dante`s godlike HF.

who`s to say Ichigo would be able to survive being impaled in the heart?

1. You have to first get to him which is near impossible for Dante 2. You have to be able to pierce Ichigo's skin which is impossible for rebellion and extremely difficult for Yammamoto at best at worse is just as impossible 3. Sorry but Dante is not the only one with HF

Not true, Vergil alone is massively hypersonic, an argument could be made for a DMC 3 Dante being able to take on Ichigo also he displayed Bleach like levels during those times, Ichigo is going to get blitzed whether you agree or not and whether Ichigo likes it or not its just the reality. It will be very near to impossible for Ichigo to tag Dante especially since Dante has variety on his side he could sidetrack Ichigo with a Doppleganger, fly, Royal Guard him and etc....

Ichigo’s HF is something that I was not going to use for sake of fairness but No more mister nice guy

What healing factor like when he got blasted in the chest and killed by Cifer? I know for sure Dante would be laughing at that did you know Dante`s Dreadnaught form lacks even a heart but contains a soul? Just something interesting to bring to you`re attention also the same Ichigo who got bloodied up by Grimmjow and Kirge?

Gallery

Scan 1 is team Ichigo's teams Healer ormime failing to heal Ichigos wounds A massive hole in his body (which incidentally would include his heart )

Dante has recovered from worst like literally having his entire essence or life force drained from him, his soul assaulted and even blasted in the chest by high levels of magic, Mundus attacks are greater. Ichigo healed because of the Hollow transformation if it weren`t for that event he would be stuck dead even having it for this battle doesn`t mean Dante wouldn`t turn him to ash the second he realizes something like he usually does to his enemies even when he has his morals and restraints.

Scan2 Ichigo going Full Hollow Lord and Fighting with a massive hole in his chest dealing with number 4 who is faster, stronger,snd has more powerful special attacks then Dante and has a regen comparable to Dante. And Ichigo kicked his ass

This again does not compare to Dante, doesn`t need anymore elaboration.

Scan 3 massive hole in chest healing up due to high speed regeneration

Again its impressive in Bleach but not to Dante who sees and experiences it pretty much everyday, in Dreadnaught form Dante`s heart is gone and there`s a hole like a Hollow the soul is changed as well it doesn`t matter cause I doubt Ichigo would be able to catch up anyway as Dante has the more developed abilities and experience in tactical thinking.

Music is awesome, I agree

You have good taste

Thanks and so do you!!

Sid is supposed to be a multi-world conquering power even compared to Mundus

Supposed is the key word here

Well he is, I only added it for simplification but its the definition of what I`m defining.

Ichigo for sure as I know him well enough to know Sid would be quite the threat

If I remember the vid right they barely managed to get tinot building class destruction Ichigo’s SS initial realse deals with that kind of force his peak form dose not even need to defend against so little force.

If you look at the video closely or watch the episodes back to back you can easily comprehend and absorb to the knowledge of the fact that Abigail destroyed like the entire city in mere minutes easily under restrained power as mentioned in the dialogue.

Its very impressive considering its being channeled and put to form through the Force Edge blade yet Dante takes it as its nothing and has Trish repelled this is also Dante at a more younger stage. I don`t see Ichigo being able to keep up with Dante anyway also Ichigo won`t be surviving a slash from Yamato or Alastor.

Alastor Ichigo would laugh at all it is ,is a sword with a battery. Before you say oh it’s a high level demon so is this guy

Ichigo ista killed him in less then a second after taking him a bit seriously and that was before a major powerup on his part

Yammamoto as I stated earlier is overrated

That`s nothing impressive and Alastor would go straight through Ichigo`s heart like a knife to a strawberry (Ichigo`s name means strawberry in English as well lol!!!)

They are lasers you haven`t even proven why they are you only have speculatively and objectively discredited them, the light beam is what I`m referring to also this is fictional interpration and their not normal lasers by any means which doesn`t take away anything from them. The light beam is definitely a laser beam and it is not solid also for Dante to reflect it just goes to validate my point about demonic energy canceling other forms of demonic energy which has been consistently displayed within the DMC universe.

Alrigth a few things

1. Mususes eyes glowed before he shoot them so Dante is aim dodging no matter what

Not true that is what you presume but you`re not taking into account the fact that Dante stayed in the same exact position and turned as soon as the beam was shot.

2. We can see them as they are flying towards Dante if they where Light speed we would not see them until they impailed Dante,

Not true its like saying we shouldn`t see The Flash or Silver Surfing traversing light speed although its a fact that they are in fact and indeed those speeds we must take the face value and truth as it is.

3. Is not solid, can you explain why they are stuck in danates body then

Because of the nature of their magic.

Not true, Dante reacted totally off of reflex as you can see in the video Dante was starring and mourning from Trish until it cut back to Mundus and then the beam was fired, Dante reacted solely off of that attack with his demonic aura. The attack is a light beam and a laser beam at the fact of what was demonstrated its not flimsy its the perspective you`re viewing it from

1. The Vid shows Dante moveing before it cut back to him

Not true.

2. The Viallin comments before attacking

3. There is a chargup before the attack is relised.

4. No it is not flimsy Dante just cant move at FTL speeds

Already explained above and Dante has another FTL speed feat anyway that you keep ignoring.

Invalid conjecture.

How is it Invalid?

There is no proof or evidence just speculation and personalized thoughts about what should of happened, there is no value in the reasoning which makes it invalid and not quite a sound argument.

1. One thee mooks took him by surprise despite him being on alert something was up due to a villains recent appearance and disappearance so his energy sensing is sub-par at best

2. His “FTL” reactions suck as he was stabbed by hapless mooks

Not true there`s no proof but senseless bashing.

Ichigo doesn`t have that experience

Excuse me? What ? Ichigo has beeter sped feats then a missile

That`s a 19 year OLD, not 60 Year OLD Dante who is waayyyyyyyy faster by that stage.

Ichigo won`t be able to perceive these movements

Now who is making assumptions

I`m telling it as it is I`m not degrading Ichigo but Ichigo has trouble keeping up with Aizen at some points and later enemies in the recent arc, they don`t compare to Dante at all.

Dante is faster than Byakuya`s bankai

Nope not even close

Yes he is.

Kenpachi

Maybe,

He is, Vergil alone has feats on their level and above.

Grimmjow

Maybe on Dantes best day

Nope, any day no exaggeration. Nero could probably even take on Grimmjow.

Aizen

Not a chance in hell, the guy has better stats then all the SS captins each of which is higer then Dante is terms of spreed strength durability etc he crushs them easy. Dante he leaves in the dust or he just crushes with his presence

Dante at his weakest and youngest is a lightning timer also he has lightning reflex with Alastor that alone is hypersonic range in speed now add teleportation and his FTL potential what do you get? Aizen is outclassed here and so is Ichigo.

1. ↑Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Plasma: "Alastor is the form of "Spirit of Lightning". It only obeys commands of the chosen one. Hence, the powers of the Alastor do not work effectively against the Plasma."
2. ↑ Devil May Cry Game Manual
3. ↑Devil May Cry, Devil Arms — Alastor: "Gives the possessor lightning speed and aerial capabilities."
4. ↑Devil May Cry, Alastor: "I am Alastor. The weak shall give their heart and swear their eternal loyalty to me."

1. ↑Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Plasma: "Alastor is the form of "Spirit of Lightning". It only obeys commands of the chosen one. Hence, the powers of the Alastor do not work effectively against the Plasma."
2. ↑ Devil May Cry Game Manual
3. ↑Devil May Cry, Devil Arms — Alastor: "Gives the possessor lightning speed and aerial capabilities."
4. ↑Devil May Cry, Alastor: "I am Alastor. The weak shall give their heart and swear their eternal loyalty to me."

Not their not, Dante`s bullets and weaponry are completely magical in nature also Dante can even charge them also they have enough damage effect to destroy ghosts, intangibles and spectral beings which Ichigo falls under in terms of classification

Not doubting they can hit him I am doubting they can hurt him

If they can hurt beings who are a lot more powerful than it will hurt Ichigo also you`re forgetting the fact that Dante can charge them with his own personal energy levels increasing the damage output so he would be able to pack more of a punch to his actual durability canceling out his healing factor as well with the infused magical base of his weaponry.

Actually their not its gameplay, game mechanics are different, game mechanics are HP, Gauge and limitations such as Devil Trigger. Its even in the lore as well which is the manual and story arcs.

Can I get a vid of him using it in a cut screen, same as Royal guard

1. ↑Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening, Style File — Royalguard: "Minimizing the damage of an enemy attack, this style allows the player to maneuver into a more strategic position."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3PLU2jRI8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC2R8dUM9tU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZtFMozR6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFuCwHroVEI

They don`t need to be used in a cutscene as long as their apart of the lore that`s all that matters, their not under game mechanics if they were I would be under contemplation to remove them. Also for the last time as well they are not game mechanics, I will explain what a game mechanic is below and what it actually MEANS.

Actually Abigail was breaking down skyscrapers and multiple complexes with ease with those claws if I`m not mistaken

You are the ones Dante breaks off are not the claws but more along the lines of a tendril attack . Abigales claws match Dante for a bit

Not true, Dante laughed at Abigail and stomped him right after, Dante broke them but it just showcases his strength which is not impossible to believe.

also that very same energy he channels throughout his body he was using these outbursts of spiking raw demonic energy to destroy an entire city or populace.

Vid of him doing that please

I already provided a video but I will again. Also this in the entirety of the context of the story and event until it transpired or transitioned into the final battle between Dante and Abigail so you will get to see Abigail`s true power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqTGLvhIPNQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPDyBhMTLw

Ichigo’s superior stats that is going to win him the battle pretty easily

fixed

Dante still has the superior stats.

Dante’s weapons or energy strikes are not spiritual they are demonic/magical

Worst assumption Ever … of all time

Lets show the entrance screen if Dante’s powers are not spiritual

After defeating the Despair Embodied during the end events of DMC 2, the demon hunter and Son of Sparda finds himself make his way out of hell itself but in a different place a place unexpected even to the Demon Hunter, in the realm of Soul Society, AGHHHHHHHhhhhhh….

He dies from being a physical being in soul society no physical being can survive there only spiritual ones.

He`s not dead he`s fully transported to that realm and Dante has been to different realms many times as well just because he readjusts to the laws of Soul Society doesn`t make him spiritual its like saying Ichigo or Naruto would become magical because their in the DMC universe, The Avengers might as well be called the Mighty Magicians when entering into Dormammu`s world or the DC Universe`s magical domains. Its not hard to understand. Also Dante has been to spiritual realms before but not one to the familiarity of Soul Society which is why he would obviously be initially surprised at first but he would adjust and accustom himself rather quickly also Dante is no normal human........... Or physical being................

Let’s assume he survives there for the sake of an argument and he meets Ichigo

Dante: Who are agghhhh…*gurgle*

Ichigo: Seriously? Easiest fight ever!

Reiatsu crush for the insta win. Just by being around someone of greater Spiritual power than you leads to an oppressive aura like increased Gravity, in extreme cases (like someone with no spiritual energy next to one of those with the most in the Bleach Universe)the weaker being gets crushed out of existence.

1. Soul attacks don`t work on Dante and even when attempted they usually backfire. I see Dante entering into his DT form as he then proceeds to blitzing the world and winds out of Ichigo.

2. Dante`s will is greater and I believe it works greater on Bleach characters because of the reiatsu that they contain from the beginning that is already born into the world of Bleach and Dante has been through worse torment such as the Nightmare (which was created by the Demon god Mundus specifically for Dante) demon who was manipulating his mind and spirit on a dimensional level it was delving right into his soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=otOZ2KHEWb0

5:41 - 7:22

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Nightmare

Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Nightmare: "When you are surrounded in its gel-like form, you will be teleported into an evil dimension. You must defeat the evil spirits that rule the dimension. The evil is a reflection of Dante’s trauma that rests in his subconscious."

Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Nightmare: "The core has the power to absorb magical powers, and it does not exclude Dante’s powers. If it starts to absorb, damage the core to stop the absorption. When it absorbs enough magical powers, it will activate its own Devil Trigger and start attacking with tremendous force."

If you want to continue to assume that Demon/magical energies are not the same that’s cool but I am going to continue arguing like they are similar and Dante does not get insta killed because of it.

Then you are flawed by that logic......... And when did I ever deny that they are not the same in relation? I was referring to spiritual energy.........

But it still occurred.

That would be like me saying I killed a tank with a 9 mil pistol, after I had soften it up with a bunch of RPG’s

I don`t see Ichigo faring any better which is my point.

No not all during that time, times were different that was Dante at his youngest and I didn`t say that I made point in mention that Dante`s weaponry which Ichigo doesn`t have. Dante`s weapons are stronger than Ichigo`s

See my sprite power vs demonic magic argument above

Have already.

and they contain magic which makes you`re point invalid.

Ichigos Soul cutter is magic it is the Physical representation of his power which if it is not equal to magic will insta kill Dante due to Reiatsu crush

Not true and not proven, I have watched Bleach up until to the Full Bringer Arc and read the manga up until the new one there is no indication of this, this is misinformation at best.

My point is Dante`s weapons will be able to harm Ichigo considering the level of strength and magical bravado they contain.

Ichigo breaks out of magic lock much greater than the demon WITH HIS BARE HANDS!

Dante has done this you know??? Also its not greater, its not even planetary level so you`re argument is nullified and I don`t see Ichigo surviving Yamato.

At point 5:33, Dante with Rebellion and a simple swing is able to repel an incoming heat missile fired off by Lady and Lady customizes her weapons as well.

Ichigo’s simple swing

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Compare as you will

What no comment? Or are you admitting that Ichigo’s swing has much more power than Dantes

I`m confused here?? I didn`t admit to anything and that feat doesn`t prove you`re point.

and keep in mind he did not cut a mountin he obliterated it as in one moment there is a mountin the next nothing

What makes it so special to the point where Dante wouldn`t be able to replicate it?

Dante would be able to replicate Ichigo`s feat of that destructive capacity if he wanted to but he holds back rather a lot which he won`t be doing here.

That’s a hell of an assumption ( ok that one was intentional) I don’t suppose you have a destructive feat to back that up

Can Ichigo replicate any of Dante`s feats?

A concentrated room sized explosion that was held back

What? Seriously that blast made a hole the size of the Grand Canyon the room explosion barely damaged the room I think I saw some pews that where still intact. And you want to assume that that explosion was more powerful!?

I already explained this above.

Here he stopping the Zero Espada the most powerful without using his mask, then blasting him down. And this is him exusted and barely a 1/3 of his power remaing and before his major powerup. He stops Savior with one hand then tosses it across the ocean for funzies

Doesn`t prove a thing.

That again is striking power there`s a huge difference

He stos it with one hand that’s not striking that’s stopping and two I really don’t see Dante having any remarkable striking power here

No he doesn`t its a complete STRIKE and Dante`s striking power is far greater I already explained this dynamic of difference even if it wasn`t he still has the variety and combat experience to edge out Ichgio if you have to look at it from all angles.

I`m not joking, its truth and just because those things happen in Bleach doesn`t mean its going to bring Dante down especially since he`s far above many of the top-tier Bleach characters

???????????? That is a hell of an assumption there

You only accused me of assuming, you haven`t actually proven to disapprove me.

Dante has fought demons who are city busters and domain conquerors he`s bested them with his greater will

Willpower has nothing to do with Reiatsu levels

Yes it does, actually it interconnects and Reiatsu has no connection to a demon like Dante who operates on his own power levels so it becomes useless to the point of having no substance or enough evidential backing.

also Dante will sense him he has sensed high levels of energy

not according to bleach lore

Dante has sensed demons in higher places within different material realms and what does Bleach lore have to do with anything? Now you`re using that as some time of scapegoat to justify?

Mundus who is>>>Aizen so its a rather moot and void point

1. Disagree

2. Agrees that’s it’s irrlavent we are comparing Dante and Ichigo not thire enemies

Were comparing their feats in regards to who they have beaten and thus we can reasonably scale how powerful they have become.

who`s to say Ichigo would be able to see Dante?

? we are making the assumption that Dante can see Ichigo I think it would be safe to assume the outer way seeing as how Dante is a physical being

I meant in the context of speed, Dante will have him blitzed and Dante would be able to see him, he can see inter-dimensional spirits and incorporeal beings.

Its lore and its apart of the battle here as well as Dante`s armory also its not game mechanics whatsoever.

Can I see it use in a cut scene

That doesn`t mean its game mechanics and its apart of the lore which is more important than the cutscenes the cutscene adds a visual presentation for the lore, Quicksilver (but I removed it to make this fight a bit more fair for Ichigo although he doesn`t stand that much of a chance regardless, the feats are night and day) is under game mechanics because game mechanics are there to give the player a challenge and balance the difficulty levels that`s what it means you seem to misunderstand its meaning or purpose.

Dante can fly as high as he wants and fire meteorites or channeled energy beams that are above>>>>>mountain level and city level energy strikes

Vids that prove that these things are that powerful

Abigail and Mundus can generate these levels of destruction, the following Majin Form exceeds that its on a concentrated level. Its super OP and it can one-shot top tier demons with ease also Dante keep generating it as long as he wants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7MnHLsEjvzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FNpfYYaJ8JU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D1kgrJGqE24

so imagine Ichigo having to take that without defense

imagine Dante getting Retuse crushed

Without proof?

Yamato alone can kill Ichigo

Not likely

You`re right its 100% true, not likely is the incorrect term. Ichigo has been harmed by lesser weapons, Yamato is no standard Bleach level item its a dimensional and magical weapon. Here is some evidence..........

Yamato

Dante now carrying Yamato which he gave to Nero by the end of DMC 2 although I still believe it to be his weapon and DMC 2 is after DMC 4 in the linear story-line so there is a good chance he could of reclaimed it after something happened to Nero, Lady and Trish which triggered his new personality. Yamato was a dimensional weapon that was used to separate the Demon World from the Human World as it sealed dimensional hell portals and could destroy them it was the only power that could revive them as well. The sword has the ability to cut through anything even at minimal is powerful enough to cut through dimensions and space.

Gallery

As shown within the manga one of the Seven Sins places Vergil under an illusion and Vergil with Yamato is able to cut through that illusion with ease while dismembering the caster.

This sword was also forged by Sparda himself as was Rebellion proving how the stories of Sparda`s immense power are indeed true.

The sword is sharp enough to the point of being powerful enough to being able to pierce through Nero`s invulnerable and heavily durable DB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TgG5A_Dptl0

2:45 - 3:27

This same arm was able to tank and block an attack from Dante`s Rebellion blade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GIpbY_TjzkA

6:00 - 6:24 and 6:46 - 6:52

Arius` light beam attack which Dante blatantly dodged and avoided

Slash Dimension F	++/++	A swift motion of the blade that cuts through dimensional barriers and unleashes a vortex of destruction.
Slash Dimension C	++/++	A swift motion of the blade that cuts through dimensional barriers and unleashes a slicing cyclone with you at its origin.
Yamato Combo S	,,/,, (ground)	A lightning quick three hit combo from the legendary blade, Yamato.
Aerial Rave V	,/, (mid-air)	Two quick slashes that cut through the air.

That sword was used to separate our world from the demons.”

—Dante, Devil May Cry 4

The "Enma" within Enma Katana (閻魔刀 Enmatou?)reference "Enma-O", the Japanese name for the Hindu judge of the afterlife, "Yama", so that the Devil Arm's name is idiomatically read in the same manner as Yamato (大和?), a Japanese term referring to the people and traditional nationalistic spirit of Japan.

↑Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition, Combat Adjudicator — Yamato: "I am the combat adjudicator. Only a dark-forged blade can move me."

1. ↑Devil May Cry, Devil Arms — 閻魔刀: Yamato: "It's the legendary sword wielded by Sparda. It is said that it has the will and the power to divide and wipe out the darkness."

↑Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition, Devil Arms File — Yamato: "A memento from Vergil’s father. This samurai-esque sword’s blade is said to cut through anything."

↑Devil May Cry 3, Code: 1 — Dante, Vergil's Weapons File — Yamato: "Sharper than a Japanese sword. It is his aesthetic that compels him to never use guns."

↑Devil May Cry 4, Nero's Arms File — Yamato: "A sword imbued with tremendous magic, it unleashes the latent power within Nero."

↑Devil May Cry 4, Dante's Arms File — Yamato: "A katana used by Dante’s brother, it is both the key to opening the Hell Gates, and to their very destruction."

↑Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition, Style File — Dark Slayer: "A warrior fallen from grace. The power of darkness gives birth to new weapons and skills."

↑Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition, Customize — Style: "Allows player to avoid enemy attacks using special evasive

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Dante has cut through hell gates which are skyscraper in level

Mountains>>>>> buildings

Depends actually and Dante has faced enemies who operate on levels>>>>>>mountains.

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No its going to put this debate to rest and you to the test. But I respect you`re opinions.

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