#1 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl -Harley Quinn

  • 3 days of prep
  • Pre-Flashpoint Feats allowed
  • Some knowledge on Moon Knight
  • hammer
  • popgun
  • 2 grenades

ThunderGodsWrath -Moon Knight

Rules

Random Encounter for Moon Knight, although Harley Quinn has some knowledge on Moon Knight

Fight takes place here-

#2 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Marc is gonna have to rely on his skill and his gear here, and I doubt it will be enough. Even with moon-powers his strength should be near Harley's -- his speed and agility will not be. She is a pretty fair combatant as well, and decent at using intelligence and agility in combat. With that terrain, all that stuff to bounce around and hide behind, she is gonna have a field day. That armor may be able to stand up to a few hard WHACKS with the hammer, but a human body, even an armored one, can only take so much punishment.

#3 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

Marc is gonna have to rely on his skill and his gear here, and I doubt it will be enough. Even with moon-powers his strength should be near Harley's -- his speed and agility will not be. She is a pretty fair combatant as well, and decent at using intelligence and agility in combat. With that terrain, all that stuff to bounce around and hide behind, she is gonna have a field day. That armor may be able to stand up to a few hard WHACKS with the hammer, but a human body, even an armored one, can only take so much punishment.

Actually it's Harley who should watch out. Moon Knight is quite agile, and even without the moon he can lift 700 pounds. He can take many hits from Harley thanks to his amour, although if Harley gets him with the grenade he's down. It would be trouble for her too though if she threw it inside the fitness center seeing how it's a small area, and she would probably get affected too. Her best bet would be to try to get Moon Knight in a area alone, which I doubt Moon Knight will let happen. Seeing how crazy Harley is she will probably throw the grenade while being close. Lets begin, this shall be fun ! I am starting to move on to the street level side of the vine, due to the fact that powerhouses start a lot of problems, and fussing.

#4 Posted by MrBossAwesomeDude (238 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd have to go with MoonKnight on this one...

#5 Posted by jashro44 (25325 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrBossAwesomeDude said:

I'd have to go with MoonKnight on this one...

Its a challenge a viner thread. We don't vote based on who we think would win a fight but who had the better argument. The debate is just getting started however.

#6 Posted by MrBossAwesomeDude (238 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@MrBossAwesomeDude said:

I'd have to go with MoonKnight on this one...

Its a challenge a viner thread. We don't vote based on who we think would win a fight but who had the better argument. The debate is just getting started however.

Oops lol. My bad, didn't know. Thanks.

#7 Posted by jashro44 (25325 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrBossAwesomeDude: No problem, your not the first to make that mistake.

#8 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

I know he's pretty strong but so is Harley. She threw Joker about 20 feet straight up, and was able to (accurately) throw sharpened bowling pins into Killer Croc (who is bulletproof) like daggers. Not to mention jumping completely over Arkham's gate (which looked to be about 15 feet) without a pole. And she is crazy but she isn't an idiot, when the grenades come into play she'll be more likely to go "catch!" And get the hell out of dodge. She's been working with bombs and gadgets for a good while, she knows what's good for her. ^_^ She also has prep here. While she isn't a prep master it is certainly sufficient to familiarize herself with the area and learn what's where. She'll be tossing 50 pound weights at Marc like shuriken.

#9 Posted by fury714 (589 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanna know more of MK's feats, this is very interesting, will stay tuned :D

#10 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl:

She is quite the physical contender than. When this battle begun I thought this battle was obviously in my favor, but now it seems it's quite a match. You do have prep on your side to help you a lot. But Moon Knight also has something. He has night vision goggles, so he can knock all the lights out at the top of the stage to destroy Harley's field of vision. Without her being able to see, what will she do? On the other hand, Moon Knight has night vision goggles that will allow him to see Harley in the dark. Not to mention that Moon Knight is skilled at moving around in darkness. ( Well he is a Batman rip off, isn't he? ). If the battle goes this way there is hardly going to be a fight. Although even if that doesn't work. I was going to post feats from the time he hurt Hulk, Sentry, and than landed gracefully on Hulk's back, but that seems like pure PIS to me.

Moon Knight has good accuracy with his moon daggers. He should be more than capable of throwing one, and hitting Harley. Here he throws one, at hobgoblins gun, and splits it in half.

Here he is able to strike down one of Hobgoblins bomb pumpkins before it hits Spider-Man while still being on deck

Not to forget he is a pretty good fighter

Your turn

#11 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, if you use feats like hurting Hulk, I get to show Harley smashing Black Lanterns and taking on a new god. :P I'll be back in a couple hours with some scans and a debate.

#12 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Lol, alright.

#13 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath: Not bad... but not good enough. Hitting a pumpkin bomb is cool, but it's just like any other inanimate, thrown object. And the martial arts feat you posted was against normal people -- let's see how Harley does against the Falcones on her quest to find Joker in time for Valentine's day (Joker's Asylum II: Harley Quinn):

As for her strength, a simple handshake can bring a grown man (and hardened villain mook) to his knees.

Moon Knight isn't going to be able to hit her easily with anything. She's faster than him, and is great at using her agility in combat. Here, she does a full handstand on one finger:

Don't wanna spam too many posts all at once, but she was able to evade Joker (who is consistently said to be very fast/agile) like he wasn't moving. Marc can try taking the lights out but he's not gonna be able to take his eyes off of Harley while she's trying to flatten him. Also, she's a Gotham villain -- Gotham is dark even in the daytime. Being in the dark is not too scary for her.

#14 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Impressive. She is pretty quick on her feat, but she still won't be able to evade all of Marc's moon dagger's. Even though she is probably faster than Marc, he will still be able to evade her, or just plain out tank her hits for a little while due to his carbonadium amour. Marc has always been one to take physical punishment well. In this fight he also wields a katana. So if he slices Harley he can get the drop on her, due to her not having any amour on. While if she hits him, he can take it for a while. Here are some Marc's durability feats.

Durability

Moon Knight is bullet proof

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...616/mk49_04.jpg

Shows it once again

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/.../mk48_02-03.jpg

2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...616/mk48_04.jpg

That is just durability. This is how fast Moon Knight can be. His reflexes are just as good.

Speed & Reflexes

Blocking poison darts, and sending them right back at attackers

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...engers03-15.jpg

With his bracelets deflects the stand worshipers laser beam blast off of his bracelet

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...Knight30-21.jpg

Dodges a point blank close-up gun-shot with ease, and strikes swiftly

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...light028-03.jpg

2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...light028-04.jpg

Moon Knight dodging several of Wonder Man’s blows

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...nders047_15.jpg

Moon Knight dodges a barrage of gunfire

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...ition001-10.jpg

And lets not forget his strength

Strength

Moon Knight kicks down a brick wall while in water

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...Knight10-06.jpg

Moon Knight bends metal bars like they were nothing

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...tvol2002-17.jpg

Moon Knight punched a hole through a roof of a truck

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...r-Man093-20.jpg

Moon Knight kicks metal bars and bends them, and these bars were holding back the Werewolf of the Night

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...Night033-16.jpg

With his hook pulls over a car in a junkyard crushing a tank

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v3_020_p07.jpg

So as you can see. Harley is out classed in physical strength against Marc. She will also have a hard time penetrating his amour seeing how his amour can tank bullets, and such. Even if she does penetrate Marc's amour. He will still be hard to defeat, seeing as how Taskmaster shot several arrows at him that he tanked.

Your turn

#15 Edited by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio
@ThunderGodsWrath: Since she is definitely faster than Marc, he will not be able to evade her,

Fix'd.

So as you can see. Harley is out classed in physical strength against Marc. She will also have a hard time penetrating his amour seeing how his amour can tank bullets, and such. Even if she does penetrate Marc's amour.

These are false statements.

Throws Joker straight up, what looks like 10-15 feet.

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2875763-2875744-harley_quinn_001_37_super_super.jpg

Boing:

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2799430-harley_s_agility_2_super.png

Batman admits Harley can beat him:

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2800498-harley_intimidates_batman_super.png

As usual, he's right:

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2775886-harley_squashes_batman_super.png

Takes out Killer Croc (who is super-strong, bulletproof, and regenerates) with bowling equipment.

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782316-harley_vs._croc_1_super.png

2. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782322-harley_vs._croc_2_super.png

3. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782325-harley_vs._croc_3_super.png

4. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782326-harley_vs._croc_4_super.png

5. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782329-harley_vs._croc_5_super.png

6. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782330-harley_vs._croc_6_super.png

7. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782331-harley_vs._croc_7_super.png

8. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782334-harley_vs._croc_8_super.png

9. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2782340-harley_vs._croc_9_super.png

I also don't feel like hunting for the scan right now, but besides dodging a good few bullets, she can tank them as well. But, instead of just muscling through, she actually regenerates from the wound,

DOMINATES Joker, who, as I was just showing in another thread, is more badass than he seems:

1. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2775888-harley_vs._joker_1_super.png

2. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2775892-harley_vs._joker_2_super.png

3. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/78207/2775897-harley_vs._joker_3_super.png

#16 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Interesting scans indeed. But everyone knows Batman holds back most of the times. Joker is nothing special. The rest are impressive though.

Moon Knight carries with him gear too. He carries the crescent moons which are adamantium, so one could be very fatal, because they can cut through anything Harley has. He has darts, gases, flare, and explosive ones too. He also has sleep darts, knock out darts, and scarab dart that get knock a person out in seconds. Tell me how Harley over comes all of this? Also Harley is going to lose in a hand to hand fight against Marc. She will only cause trouble. because of her prep. He is a lot more skilled. Although she is a lot more flexible, thanks to her being a very good acrobatic.

Here Moon Knight defeats Black Knight whole is highly skilled in swordsmanship, even getting impaled. He did this without to much trouble

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...6/wcaa02-34.jpg

2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...6/wcaa02-35.jpg

3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...6/wcaa02-36.jpg

4. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...6/wcaa02-37.jpg

Causes Nick Fury to retreat. Nick Fury has defeated Captain America before

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...nders047_04.jpg

2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...nders047_05.jpg

3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...nders047_06.jpg

Defeats Taskmaster, and strikes fear into him

1. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v5_017_018.jpg

2. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._005_v5_019.jpg

3. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...005_v5__022.jpg

4. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._005_v5_023.jpg

5. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._005_v5_024.jpg

6. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._005_v5_025.jpg

7. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v5_006_002.jpg

8. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/...006_003_004.jpg

9. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v5_006_005.jpg

10. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v5_006_006.jpg

11. http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/..._v5_006_007.jpg

He is simply to skilled for Harley.

#17 Posted by Jokergeist (4935 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay! Oh! Why! Gee! Eye! Are! El!

What does that spell? Joygirl!

#18 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#19 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath: I have proven in another thread that there is no statement more untrue than "Joker is nothing special". Beating him is not only impressive, but astonishing, and she did it without effort and challenge, making fun of him the entire time and barely even trying.

Moon Knight may be skilled... may even be MORE skilled (in combat) than Harley. And he might be stronger. But Marc has no recorded abilities of enhanced speed or agility, whereas Harley does, at a >olympian level, and has shown it. She was also a gymnastics/acrobatics prodigy, and is likely on par with Dick Grayson when it comes to bouncing around like a lunatic. Marc may be strong and skilled but he simply isn't going to be able to keep up. And once more, she has prep -- she's going to have a plan for how she's going to utilize those grenades, and she has the popgun too, which, if not lethal, will give Marc a hell of a ride.

#20 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Let's start voting now ! :P

#21 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath: If you like. :P

VOTING OPEN.

#22 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll go for

#23 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Voting now begin !

#24 Posted by Pyrogram (41269 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

I'll go for

I agree with this ^^ Joygirl is my vote, brilliant debating from both! Moonknight had a few out of context scans or PIS posted so that sorta swayed my opinion, but nice debating.

#25 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump!

#26 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10824 posts) - - Show Bio

Vote to ThunderGodsWrath - I think Moon Knight would beat Harley. I found his feats much more impressive and I think is more skilled.

#27 Posted by boschePG (2690 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm....Im going with Moon Knight

#28 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (4362 posts) - - Show Bio

Moon Knight

#29 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschePG: @joeagentofhand1: It's a debater vote, not a character vote. Vote for TGW if you like but vote for him, not Moon Knight, pleaze. <3

#30 Posted by name12345 (560 posts) - - Show Bio

Joygirl

#31 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

I vote for @Joygirl:

#32 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess Joygirl has bested me

#33 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

I guess Joygirl has bested me

Moon Knight would win a real fight but JG bested you today.

#34 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

I guess Joygirl has bested me

Moon Knight would win a real fight but JG bested you today.

Yep

#35 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Not over yet, we could still get more votes. And Harley would defeat Moon Knight and Sportsmaster both :P

#36 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

Not over yet, we could still get more votes. And Harley would defeat Moon Knight and Sportsmaster both :P
#37 Posted by CyberWarrior (1585 posts) - - Show Bio

Well what a debate ! Know, let me say.

Moon Knight wins.

Short but true.